Recently, even Mark I. and the guys at BayTSP had to admit, filesharing is rocking along, and even perhaps on the rise, in spite of all the threats and subpoenas from the RIAA. Basically, the RIAA's actions are like a four year old, standing in the surf, flailing with their arms and cursing the ocean, and thinking they will stop the tides. You can holler sue(y) til the pigs come home and distributing computing/ Peer to Peer is NOT going away.

They've dug their nicotine discolored claws into the ground and are kicking and screaming. Sorry Cary...you are NOT gonna stop progress, and peer to peer is rocking merrily along, whether you want it to or not. Mr. Sherman, in the world of communications, you and the RIAA represent the Underwood mechanical typewriter, and P2P is the Pentium X with 1000 gig memory and 900 terabyte drives.

The thing that Cary and the "boyz" don't get, is that people demand connectivity, and the ability to seek, find, and exchange large amounts of digital files. The ability to collaborate through P2P technology, is a giant leap forward for people in science, medicine, writing, video production, you name it.

P2P is not just about sharing music. Sure, it happens there, but P2P has LOTS of non-infringing use, and that continues to grow daily.

If you are an Indie, and want millions of people to be able to sample your tunes, you can write keywords that will get people to try them out, and let people sample them cheaply using these software sharing solutions.

"Hack" Valenti once said that VCRs were to the movie industry, what the Boston Strangler was to a woman alone. Well "Hack" looks like the studios have racked up a fair amount of scratch through video rentals of videotapes and DVDs of major and less than major, motion pictures. "Hack" STILL believes this nonsensse about VCRs being the enemy, from things I have read.

So Cary and company, scream, threaten suits, clench your teeth and shake your fists at the moon....progress continues like a steamroller. So you just stand there and pitch a fit til your carotids burst....'cause we are winning more every day, and P2P is getting bigger all the time.

~CodeWarrior

I'm with you CODE Death to the RIAA Stay Away Boycott the RIAA we the people can win this FIGHT

thanks stilltrying...it's because of you...and the other good people here and elsewhere...that our victory is assured. I really appreciate you.

Don't forget George is one of those people He's in till the END!!!!!!!!!!!

wow wish had one those Pentium X...

yeah RIAA can use its CSL's(Carey Sues Lips) and suck on that.

I never forget George or Tom or Leflaw or anyone...
George has been in this longer than I have....and I respect George as a friend, and as one of the best fighters in this war.

yo, and the moral of the story is

'You cant control memory'


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err.. there is still that hr2517 on comitee.. it has 25 sponsors and could still make everyone fellons. and.. err.. with the desperate plan not working the ultimate last ditch may be to push that through. We filesharers are backing the rabid dog into the corner gentlemen, let us hope the government comitees on p2p trank it before it lunges.

only time will tell, but the people will win as long as they keep boycotting... if only everyone boycotted

i personally wander if denying them profits is counterproductive unless it is more severe and vocal. i say producing stats that fly in the face of their claims of woe is another way to make fools of them. but i dont wanna buy their crap to do it =P

With respect to that trivialization of the victims of the Boston Strangler, I'd venture that Valenti and his fellow anti-technology jihadists are more like the abortionist who decides on his own to terminate an unborn fetus, whether the mother wanted him / her aborted or not. In the case of DAT, while there are those who would say that as a consumer technology it was "stillborn," I.M.H.O. it was more the technological equivalent of a partial-birth abortion. Given the fact that certain portions of the Hollywood elite support groups like Planned Parenthood and NARAL in particular and the abortion movement in general, it could be argued in some corners that this comparison is apt.

I wonder if RIAA reps read any of this stuff we put out. I have an idea, if everybody puts a small donation can we create a tv ad that will relay our message that suing the American people on P2P is NOT the way to do biuisiness.

Denying people operating capital really puts a crimp on their office morale...esp when bankruptcy looms.

Excellent article, Code. And truer words are rarely spoken nowadays.

Cary-sue, read it and weep, you weasel. Your days are numbered.

Amen! Keep up the fight!!

Cary, Cary. Quite contrary to your whining, good will prevail!

We gotta get more folks to boycott. We "on-the-fringe" here at boycott-riaa hardly make a dent when you compare our numbers that of the sheep.

Unless we give the sheep horns, our efforts may be futile.

(sorry to be so pessemistic, in a foul mood I guess.)

But, even when I feel down about it, MY effort will not end!

When you are RIGHT about something you must persist even if you KNOW you will loose! (Cause you dont "know" everything!)

Shmoo

No offence but all this anti riaa stuff is absurd. Anybody who downloads music illegally should be prosecuted. If an artist chooses to give out free MP3's on a site like this then that is fine, but to say that riaa are wrong by attacking P2P is insane.

everybody knows that the main use of P2P is to download music.

It's not just P2P either, I was recently faced with an eBay fruadster who sold over 40 copies of my tracks. He made a profit of £343.60 and never paid back a penny of it despite legal threats from myself, my record label and an independant solicitor. I dropped the case after spending over £500 on legal fee's and being advised that "he would get away with it because he is untraceable"

Also a lot of artists are taking to the internet because online labels allow them to sell there music much cheaper and also give them freedom to make the music that THEY want to.

If people are going to just download from p2p then the artists will not bother as they wont be getting paid.

Think about it.

Leerees, if you don't like it here, just leave. We're here because we're sick of being force-fed the droppings of the latest manufactured pop idol. When was the last time you ever heard anything that would be considered "unique" to come out under the RIAA? Not music that you have to be told is unique such as Avril Lavigne, NIN, or Korn. Something that really has a unique sound that nobody else can reproduce? That's right, never. Why? Because something that is really unique would not be in the best interest of the RIAA since it would draw attention away from their dancing sex-puppets which rakes in ever so much money.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go listen to some Jaana, followed by some Bassic and then maybe some Infected Mushroom.

stick around leerees,

you gonna have FUN if you do

(and maybe learn a thing or 2)

Shmoo

and, who knows, you might teach us a thing or two as well

leerees it not just the p2p battle that boycott-Riaa is about it's also about better record deals for artists ,stopping radio payola ,making sure artists are not cheated out of song copyrights, royalties are payed to artists, proper accounting of all the above and much more. P2p is just a small piece of the bigger picture!!!!!! This is what fighting the good fight is all about!!!!!!!

leerees.. welcome to the dmusic debates! I know the futility of trying to profit from selling CD's. Unfortunately, we are caught in a period of major business transitions with music and technology.. and figuring out how to profit from this is going to be more complicated.. but all I do know is that the current greedhead model has not worked for the artists. Reality: if you sign a deal with an riaa label, they won't pay you any money either, and you also lose control of your product. At least, as producer, you have the control aspect.. also, peeped your music site.. looks good, but make sure you got your permissions and royalties in order.. cause legal wolves are always hovering, again, thanks to the riaa control efforts..

leerees...if the guy was peddlin' stuff on eBay, how can he be untraceable? If he has an account, he's got to be somewhere...

Maybe if I keep changing my username every time I log onto (insert your favorite P2P here), run PeerGuardian and update it all the time, I'll be untraceable too. Been working so far...

leerees said:

"No offence but all this anti riaa stuff is absurd. "

comment- How is it absurd?

You really need to back up your statement and add specificity, just saying something doesn't prove it now does it?

leerees said :
"Anybody who downloads music illegally should be prosecuted. "

comment- I don't know, but since leerees uses the pound for money, I believe he or she may be in England...
You really need to define "downloads music illegally"...as you should know, the RIAA CLAIMS they are going after those who are making unauthorized copies available, i.e. "uploading" and in Canada, downloading is legal, so you need to specifiy what country you are talking about.

Also, you said "should be prosecuted"...are you talking criminal prosecution? And, if so, could you point to which country and which laws you say they should be prosecuted under?
If you are talking about the USA, please list the specific laws and codes and sections you think are applicable. Are you talking about the N.E.T. (No Electronic Theft Act) or are you talking about the criminal provisions of the DMCA, please recall the levels of proof are different for the NET Act as opposed to the DMCA...

leerees said:
"If an artist chooses to give out free MP3's on a site like this then that is fine, but to say that riaa are wrong by attacking P2P is insane."

Is the RIAA "attacking P2P"? If so, could you be more specific. Are you saying they are using illegal hacking techniques or trying to excessive ping users of P2P networks? Please be specific about the type of attack, and also which network you are talking about....i.e. are you talking about Sharman Networks/ Kazaa, or Gnutella, or eDonkey/eMule,
BitTorrent, BearShare, Morpheus, EarthStation 5, all of the above, or other?

And, do you actually mean legal insanity according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual V, the textbook for classification, describing, and diagnosing mental disorders. You really need to be far more articulate in your references so we know exactly what you are asserting.

leerees said:
"everybody knows that the main use of P2P is to download music."

I assert the falacy of that argument lies in the fact that I do not know that, nor do I agree that the main use of P2P is to download music. Are you talking about my main use, the main use of someone else, or are you making an unsubstantiated generalization not backed up by any scientific study?

Nevertheless..thank you for your somewhat unclear opinions.

As an addendum,
leerees said:

"If people are going to just download from p2p then the artists will not bother as they wont be getting paid."

You didn't say download unauthorized versions of copyrighted songs, and since there are definitely, many people using Peer to Peer networks for non-infringing uses, their downloading of files which are not unauthorized and not songs, is totally irrelevant to your statement...
"then the artists will not bother as they wont be getting paid."

You say "think about it"...I did think about what you said, but your questions and statements are so non-specific ,ambiguous, unclear, and not restricted with respect to time and space, they essentially are just confusing.

Sorry, but I thought about it and those are my thoughts.

Best wishes though...