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DMUSIC is NOT a LEGAL music site acording to RIAA
Posted by CountryRob in on November 13, 2003 at 6:42 PM



Ouch... See, there is this really cool industry coalition called MUSIC (acronym meaning Music United for Strong Internet Copyright) aka

http://musicunited.org

which is CONtrolled by RIAA and MPAA which has this really really neat page

http://www.musicunited.org/6_legalsites.html

That BLUNTLY STATES:
"Where to Get Music Online…
Without Breaking the Law"

NOT LISTED is DMUSIC.... uh... and most other Independent Online Music Sites -- so therefore by OMISSION implies that anyone who downloads off this site is STEALING MUSIC -- because this is not a "Legal Online Music Source" -- Strange though, CDBaby is not listed either BUT MP3.com is.... (Course we all know who owns Emptytwiddledee)...

I'm not one to push unnecessary lawsuits -- but it seems to me that this should be an opportunity for Leflaw and others to file a class action against this RIAA/MPAA Cartel on behalf of all Independent Online Music Sources who have been omitted from the page and so therefore MUST be BAD, BAD and ILLEGAL MUSIC PIRATES -- afterall...

There are alot of intersting tidbits at this site, BTW --- I was first attracted to the site by a banner ad from the Universal site.

Merry Christmas!!!!!!




User Comments

RockgdZiemann
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 6:57 PM
Add Garageband, vitaminic and IUMA, just to name three others, and there are more than 100,000 acts (at a minimum) that are being discriminated against by this false advertising.

And that's the way it's been for four full years now.
Advancedcompmore
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:02 PM
well the RIAA does claim to represent 90% of all legitimate music distributed. I think that's the term. George correct me if I'm wrong. what are the actual figures? I think you've posted them before
Alternativeronnie71
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:11 PM
FUCK THEM ASSHOLES. I WILL SHOW THEM ILLEGAL WHEN I SHOVE MY BOOT UP THIER ASS.
RockgdZiemann
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:19 PM
It's been a while since I added this up, or checked any stats, so this is an approximation, of course.

EMI, last I heard (and they have cut scts since then, according to reports), had a roster of about 1,100 acts/artists.

The list I've got for BMG shows about 300 acts, Sony has maybe 1200, about 800 for UMG and no clue how many Warner has.

So let's be REAL generous and say the five major labels have 7,500 acts between them.

How many indie acts are there?
DMusic has at least 4,500, although I haven't sought a current status on that figure in some time. Garageband says they have 64,000 acts.
IUMA/Vitaminic claims 80,000. And believe it or not, there are still even some independent artists left at mp3.com.

Even allowing for a LOT of overlap, there must be at least 75,000 to 100,000 acts which have made recordings and are attempting to promote them on the Internet.

That's a minimum ratio of 10 to 1, but I think reality is closer to 13:1. Remember, I was very generous giving them 7500 acts.
Advancedcompmore
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:25 PM
thanks
Advancedcarla60626
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:29 PM
More interesting news: http://news.com.com/2100-1027_3-5107196.html?tag=nefd_top

An independent software developer has created a program called MyTunes that lets users of Apple Computer's iTunes for Windows grab song files from other people on a computer network.

While iTunes' main purpose is let people buy music online and play songs stored on their PC, the software also includes a feature that allows customers to listen to songs stored on another PC on their local network. Apple's software makes no permanent copy of the song, but the new MyTunes software captures that "stream" of music, making a copy that can be burned to a CD, uploaded to the Net or streamed to another PC.

"iTunes does not allow you to save this music to your hard drive," MyTunes' creator, Bill Zeller, said on his Web site. "MyTunes lifts this restriction by allowing you to save music from other computers to your hard drive."

While stream recording is not new--a myriad programs exist for recording Web radio and other streaming Net services for Windows and Macintosh computers--the ease with which the MyTunes software fits into iTunes pushes the experience to a new, and perhaps legally risky, level.

Running the program makes creating your own MP3 songs from someone else's collection as easy or easier than grabbing MP3s via traditional file-swapping software like Kazaa. That could complicate things for Apple, which depends on the music industry's support--and indeed, has won unprecedented kudos from labels and artists--for its iTunes music store.

The iTunes stream-sharing feature has already been widely adopted inside companies and on college campuses, where computer users can sample co-workers' or fellow students' music collections, as long as they're both using iTunes and their computers are on the same network.

As set up in iTunes, this is more akin to on-demand Webcasting than true file-sharing--but even tiny Webcasters are in theory required to pay a royalty to record companies and artists for streaming songs online.

With the advent of MyTunes, the large iTunes collections become more like a collectively distributed database of songs from which anybody can download--something that looks a lot like Kazaa, although without the search features.

Only unencrypted MP3 files are easily captured and copied using the MyTunes software, however. Songs purchased from Apple's iTunes store, which are protected by the company's proprietary digital rights management technology, do not work with Zeller's software.

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) declined to comment on the iTunes or MyTunes features. Previously, the RIAA has targeted corporations in which large MP3 libraries were available to employees through an internal computer network, settling for $1 million in one case. The group has also sent letters to businesses and colleges warning about the potential legal dangers of letting employees or students use file-swapping services to exchange copyrighted works.

The ability to stream music stored on another computer has been part of iTunes for the Mac for some time. Apple scaled back the feature after some people started sharing songs over the Internet.

For his part, Zeller said on his Web site that he expects that MyTunes users will not do anything illegal with the software.

"And remember, copyright infringement is illegal," he says at the bottom of the page. "If you have any question whether what you're doing constitutes an infringement, visit the RIAA's great antipiracy Web site."
Advancedundeath
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:29 PM
I have sent an email to these people, and look forward to their response. Wonder if they'll add all the other sites.
AlternativeJennae
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:35 PM
i stand with my foot up their ass with ronnie Nodding

Flipping The Bird

just who the HELL do they fShockcking think they are Mad
DMemberviperpa33s
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:38 PM
Well darn, my firewall blocked those sites so I guess they must be bad bad bad.

They probably didn't have anything worth reading anyway. Just the same old song and dance, everyone is a pirate.
AdvancedKarmatic
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:40 PM
That's complete bullshit. Watch me bootleg an asskicking.
AlternativeJennae
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:41 PM
info@musicunited.org

this is that pathetic sites email address...
feel free to tell them they forgot about us and bitch a little:D (Big Grin)

Flipping The Bird
Advancedundeath
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:45 PM
Don't bitch, as good as that sounds. I got so pissed because I'm passionate, and had to edit my email so many times before it was sent. Stand firm and use big words that they probably won't understand, and politely and professionally ask that they add these sites to their list and keep their mind on making everything fair instead of adding to the monopoly (however involuntarily they say they have).
AlternativeJennae
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:46 PM
er.. yeah that is what I meant.. be professional about it...

cShockck suckers Mad

Oops
Advancedmtekk
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:47 PM
Ok I just sent them a 'nice' 'little' letter Evil Grin hopefully they will see their mistake now :( (Frown)
AdvancedKarmatic
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:47 PM
http://www.musicunited.org/3_artists.html

" Scott Weiland, Lead Singer of Stone Temple Pilots: "There should be some way to compensate the artists. Because obviously they wouldn't be providing a service if they weren't getting compensated, it's not a free service, it's not like it's done just to please fans. Everything that's done is done for a profit." "

Ain't that some shit. He just lost any and all respect he may have gotten from me. You should play music in love of it, not just for the paycheck that follows.
AdvancedThaspian
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:51 PM
Ok.

a) I think they're referring on how to get INDUSTRY music legally.

b) This site is %100, not industry music, now isn't it? :) (Smile)

Please, think before making an annoying knee jerk reaction that sounds like you yourself has your head up your ass. :) (Smile)
Alternativeronnie71
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:51 PM
I did email them, but I was nice about it. I was like could you please tell me if im doing anything illegal by having my band's music on DMusic.com, IUMA, soundclick, and Garageband.

If they say yes.. oh yeah got them by the ballz maybe :D (Big Grin)
AlternativeJennae
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:51 PM
I sent an email too Nodding
Mad forget us INDEED Furious

and yep I hear that karmatic IN-FShockCKING-DEED
AlternativeJennae
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:52 PM
well I wasn't rude but I didn't kiss any ass that is for sure Rolls Eyes
AlternativeJennae
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 7:54 PM
industry or not who cares.. it's still INSINUATES and can DETOUR people from Dling from this site.
AlternativeJennae
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 8:02 PM
as for your link karmatic.. cry me a river Rolls Eyes who's been robbin who for however long at 21.99 a damn CD...

they dug their own graves.
RIAA Tombstone
AlternativeJennae
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 8:03 PM
in response to your link rather not you personally :D (Big Grin)

guess they'll have to start pissin in a porcelain toilent and not 24kt gold one
Shrugs

Sobbing booo hooooo hoooooooo
Americanafossil
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 8:13 PM
Hmmm... I would consider our music as industry music....
Americanafossil
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 8:15 PM
I mean, after all, RIAA registered our label...

Uh,

We belong to ASCAP and other industry groups....

BUT -- we do have music on this "ILLEGAL" Music site --- so... gee, I guess that must mean we are NOT industry right? Because This site isn't an "INDUSTRY" site, therefore illegal?
Metalwoodhead
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 8:32 PM
it's not like it's done just to please fans. Everything that's done is done for a profit." "

This is the prob with corporate "music", it is done for profit is all, Indies such as the great artist at Dmusic, Play and write for the fan and the fans comefirst always.
DMemberCantido
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 8:52 PM
OMG SLANDER! SUE EM SUE EM SUE EM!
DMemberDarkhorseX
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 8:58 PM
It's not slander Cantido, it's libel.
IntermediateSuikiogiaz
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 9:06 PM
carla60626--
you should submit that article.
IntermediateRIAAposterchild
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 10:02 PM
Ain't that a bitch!
~Robin Harris

Nothing surprises me any more when it comes to those imbeciles.

If I said the riaa retards would that be considered being redundant?
DMemberstilltrying
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 10:04 PM
SO MP3.COM IS LISTED WELLLLL GUESS WHAT AFTER DEC.2 MP3.COM WILLLL BE NO MORE !!!! SEE what happens when the major labels run INDIE MUSIC THEY KILL IT !!!!!!!!!!!!! By BY MP3.COM
DMembernitedreamerxp
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 10:08 PM
I wanna really big file sharing site that has no RIAA music on it so we can still share and trade music unlike the idiot sites that they advocate, if we can take out all RIAA content we still will have on great music collection.
And all new artist gain respect from a new generation of music lovers the world over let the RIAA have all the DRM they want because we won't be needing any of their crap for music anymore if the signed artist stay with the RIAA so let it stand they won't be making much money but when the indies start getting noticed and is making more money than the signed artist it'll make them think oh and if I get my CHRISTMAS wish of an all indie file sharing site large as kazaa let there be no DRM installed on CD's from indie artist lets see just how fast this flys and supasses the RIAA hanging with their mouths open half the battle will be won.
DMembernitedreamerxp
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 10:11 PM
Oh and another thing DMUSIC isn't illegal it's just not in their club so they consider it to be whatever they say it is but in reality it's not illegal, just unsigned material they have no real control over.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 10:16 PM
I'm saying Mr. Cary Sherman, attorney at law, has intentionally made fraudulently misleading statements in public interviews when he calls alleged copyright infringers "pirates".

That's called lying Mr. Sherman.
Prove I'm wrong.
ElectronicAcumen
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 10:27 PM
their just bitter over the whole "boycott the riaa" idea that we like so much.
DMemberstilltrying
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 10:36 PM
Well if you ask me I THINK things are GOING to pick up at DMUSIC with the DEATH of MP3COM on DEC 2!!!!!!!!!
DMemberBl1ster
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 10:39 PM
nitedreamerxp,

As long as we use Kazaa or other P2P and share Indie Music only, we can make that happen. It's only a matter of time before all the riaa crap disappears and all that is left is good Indie Music. The problem is getting everyone familiar with 100,000 artists that they never heard of. How are they going to search for them if they don't know who they are? We need to make sure we fill in the "genre" box and hope everyone searches by genre for a while. That will get the ball rolling at least.

Sharing 6,433 Indie songs and the riaa can't touch me! I've been turned on to more than 400 Independent Metal Artists and have bought more than 150 of their CD's so far...of course, you have to get them over the internet, 'cause the record stores don't stock them. I wonder why??
DMemberJustin42980
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 10:42 PM
Screw them assholes, i'm pissed.. As far as i'm concerned all file sharing is legal whether they like it or not... I'll be sharing legal files on Kazaa ( all of them) .. Bite Me RIAA.. All files are legal to share assholes..
AlternativeJennae
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 10:55 PM
I'm with Bl1~
All I listen to is indie artist and I support them as well so Flipping The Bird the RIAA music, they can't own INDIE Razz

But I tell you what.. If INDIE music is in at all limited or the sharing haulted because of the lower percentage NRA to INDIE I will be PISSED OFF!!!!

They can't stop Indie.. they DON'T OWN ALL MUSIC nor should they CONTROL ALL MUSIC.
Mad


DMembernitedreamerxp
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 10:57 PM
Bl1ster
Do you have any trance by chance or know of a good site? I agree with alot of what you said but the thing is is the spotlights on kazaa and so is the heat I was thinking like making maybe DMUSiC larger as long as no RIAA junks is on it make it huge , and as long as people put in a search for certain "genres" and maybe a thing like say you typed in heavy metal then you get a list of a bunch of heavy metal then if you pick a certain band it can point out some others you might like Hmmmmmm maybe that'll help people find more of what you like maybe more different music in a kazaa like setting without all the RIAA junk.
Also maybe have the artist site listed so you can get the CD's too kinda like how you do
JazzJazzmary2U
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 11:04 PM
I don't care, really.. All this diatribe here just puffs 'em up and makes it seem like they are important or something.. SO WHAT?? BOYCOTTING means not paying attention to what they are about.. that they are wilfully stupid it their problem and their undoing. Rolls Eyes
DMemberstdlibh
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 11:24 PM
nitedreamerxp,

www.shoutcast.com (Digitally Imported radio station)
www.clubglow.com
www.tranceaddict.com/livesets.shtml
www.hyperreal.org
www.live365.com

you'd want a program called Total Recorder as well ;-) (Wink).

Enjoy!
Advancedmroop
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 11:47 PM
"it seems to me that this should be an opportunity for Lewflaw and others to file a class action against this RIAA/MPAA Cartel"

Put down the crack pipe and step away slowly. :) (Smile)
Folktomsong
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 11:49 PM
Musicunited is an old story. Now they've changed their name-- It is the singular effort of one person in that queer club: MILES COPELAND. It was most amusing two years ago to see Miles showing up at SXSW, Future of Music and Sen. Murray's hearings. He always looked like busting a forehead artery. He really got tiresome quick. He fronts for the pigs, but the site claims to be a groundswell for artist rights.

His beef is that a manager/publisher/label owner such as himself invests years of his life and millions of buck-o's to create "artist development"--(remember that laughable term?)

His contention then is that any restraints on manmagement label owner royalty participation (like under 50%) would destroy the music biz. So sad. His book on the early days of the Police toruing in a van all over the South *should be* a primer for DYI. Now he's a multi-billionaire. His other friends, such as Phil Walden, should clue him in that decades of cocaine and payola abuse don't give anyone a lifetime backstage pass for hookers. limos 'n blow ™.

All that blew up in his face with the meltdown of his MCA artist Carla Hennessy,from Ireland, profiled on the front page of Wall Street Journal. After spending millions on her debut LP, they switched producers (from Steven Dorff) and sold a total of 172 copies.

The resulting fallout from the WSJ article caused his former Copeland/IRS employee Jay Boberg to lose his job as President of MCA.

Artist rights, my cellulite ass. More management theft in the name of love.

Advancedmroop
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 11:55 PM
That Carly Hennessy article was great! I bought a new hole punched copy on ebay for a dollar for a goof. :) (Smile)
DMembernitedreamerxp
Date: November 14, 2003 @ 12:08 AM
Thanks for the info stdlibh
I'll be sure to check'em out just recently I got hooked on the music especially progressive trance I'm wanting to know how darkwave is too but I'm limited to dial up GRRRRRRR but I manage lol anyway thanks again.
DMemberaxxis
Date: November 14, 2003 @ 12:13 AM
hey ronnie71, when youre done ramming that boot up their ass, i'll lend you my baseball bat to shove down their throat.
Folktomsong
Date: November 14, 2003 @ 12:29 AM
Mroop, your comment is hilarious. Nobody can access Wall Street Urinal articles without mortaging yr first-born, never seen any website like it! You say Ebay sells re-publishing! Very cool.
Advancedmroop
Date: November 14, 2003 @ 12:45 AM
Alternativeronnie71
Date: November 14, 2003 @ 12:49 AM
Yeah axxis thats what im talking about.. maybe take their prized quarter horse(pop stars)heads and leavem' in the bed of the executives. We will show them what a real mob looks like.

Say HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND
DMemberCritto
Date: November 14, 2003 @ 6:35 AM
YES !!!

SUE the RIAA for defamation (libel, or how is it caled)! It will bring more light to their practices, and help boycott-riaa.com get some attention, for the sole fact there is some legal press(that means, publishing articles about law, lawsuits etc). Every step against RIAA is a good thing ... Sadly that I can't join but I think it is an option for Americans only ...
Advancedgoldenpi
Date: November 14, 2003 @ 6:54 AM
The MUSICunited website is always an entertaining read. They manage to know absolutly nothing about the subject, and still give the impression that they know even less :-) (Smile)
DMemberaxxis
Date: November 14, 2003 @ 7:55 AM
Critto: The word I believe you're looking for is "slander".
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: November 14, 2003 @ 9:50 AM
Slander=making false charges of a derogatory nature verbally.
Libel-written false statements

The truth is an absolute, affirmative defense to any charges of slander or libel.
DMemberRobuteGuilliman
Date: November 14, 2003 @ 11:30 AM
But considering how many people buy into RIAA's bull, how can we show that it's not premium grade beef from that bull, so to speak?
DMembernapstersghost
Date: November 14, 2003 @ 1:11 PM
Earth to RIAA: Nobody cares what you have to say about anything.
IntermediateRocketGib
Date: November 14, 2003 @ 1:49 PM
HA! Well since the RIAA knows that Dmusic is linked directly with BoyCott-RIAA, why wouldnt they not put us on the list of "legal" sites? I mean, the sites on that list are those that are controlled by the RIAA. Very biased IMO.
IntermediateINeedAlover
Date: November 14, 2003 @ 3:29 PM
It seems to me that their OMISSION of listing other legitimate sites to download music would also be a violation of the Sherman AntiTrust Act. Why? Because they aren't listing the competition to imply that they are illegal, which would drive potential customers away from the site. Doing so eliminates competition, a clear violation of the act. The class action lawsuit should also go in this vein.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: November 15, 2003 @ 9:34 AM
mroop - usually I admire the way you handle rebuttals, without cursing, but this time, I think you dishonored yourself.
"mroop
Date: November 13, 2003 @ 11:47 PM
"it seems to me that this should be an opportunity for Lewflaw and others to file a class action against this RIAA/MPAA Cartel"

Put down the crack pipe and step away slowly. :) (Smile) "

Although you put a smiley face, implying you were joking, to insinuate that the poster is using illegal drugs and that their assertion is flawed for that reason, is / should be, beneath you my friend. If you respond like that, it shows you may lack a well thought out reason why that statement is not worth considering .

I'm disappointed in you, not that you have to live up to my expectations, but it just does not conform to your usual conduct.

Respectfully,
~Code
DMemberboycotter
Date: November 16, 2003 @ 10:34 PM
Looks to me like they are scared and are walking on hot coals going oooch, ouch! Keep boycotting their nasty smelly butts! I suggest a douche where the sun don't shine :D (Big Grin)
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