Posted by Eazy in on November 5, 2003 at 12:53 AM
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A featured article at silicon.com dated September 10th (but released 3 hours ago, according to the Google News), The Recording Industry Association of America is once again rehashing issues of pornography. Particularly, illegal/child pornography on P2P networks, in the lobby group's ever shifting "concerns" towards the file-sharing medium.
RIAA President Cary Sherman paints vivid images of pedophiles sending "instant message[s] to the unwitting young person who downloads an Olsen twins or Pokemon file from the pedophile's share folder on KaZaA" in order to lure minors into viewing or worse…participate in child pornography.
...Naturally, the now classic April, 1999 Rolling Stone cover shot of BMG label artist Britney Spears --- then 17 years of age ( i.e. "barely legal"); lying on a bed in noting but a pair of almost-hot pants and, a black bra, open shirt and holding a Teletubby plush doll --- won’t invoke the RIAA's outrage over the perverse commercial sexualization of minors.
Executive VP of Sherman Networks (Mr. Alan Morris) responded by saying the RIAA is engaged in a "deliberate campaign to try to smear P2P technology itself," incidentally after the Californian federal court rejected the RIAA's demand to close P2P networks in an intense legal showdown back in April.
Other points covered in the article include the FBI's concentrated concerns and crackdown of child-porn collection on IRC networks channels, which involved the specific investigation into child-porn distribution and not on shutting down entire IRC networks --- a point the RIAA have apparently missed. Again.
Read the full article here: http://www.silicon.com/software/applications/0,39024653,10005939,00.htm
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User Comments
tasadar24
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 1:37 AM
Please post some new news... The article is a month old, and we've been through this before...
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leflaw
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 1:57 AM
It says it was released a few hours a go....
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tasadar24
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 2:16 AM
hmm... thats odd... anyways, still old news
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GnutProductions
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 2:23 AM
all this is spinning and reccruiting resources for the riaa's intrests..the truth we can sit all day and pick apart all the porn on the net. yahoo,msn,aol every chat program is full with smut chat and cams. Any one your kids can access it any time, its not whats at issue here. What is at issue here is getting artists paid and the music industry growing to connect with technology. Who ever comes up with a solution will be very rich..and most likely already are.=)Keep spinning the truth Carey you make your self look like an idiot more and more each day.
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tasadar24
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 2:37 AM
Gnut, you can't go into any format(newsgroups, p2p, IM, websites) without there being porn...
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Bill43
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 2:45 AM
I've been a limited P2P user for a while now... and I've never run across any porn at all. I have found a few virus here and there, but I'm fairly well protected, so no problems there.
It all seems like smoke and mirrors to me.
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JoshvanHulst
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 4:35 AM
God! I hate the RIAA.. these guys have gutts, which I hate. Cause they are ruining the freedom of content availablity to users who want files they can't find anywhere else other than P2P
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CodeWarrior
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 8:41 AM
I have said for some time, the RIAA sees P2P as a competitor for its own planned digital distribution network, and wants to destroy P2P, WORLDWIDE.
Know what's really obscene? How about the RIAA acting as a domestic terrorist on the people of the USA!
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CodeWarrior
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 8:42 AM
Speaking about the instant message, how about the threatening IMs the RIAA sent out to people on Kazaa, in violation of the end user license agreement.
Care to comment Cary?
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woodhead
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 9:01 AM
The RIAA need to get over this, it is nothing but whining "we want to control music over the internet, please shut the p2p down we can't compete with p2p tech."
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GnutProductions
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 9:52 AM
i agree with you bill43 there is not much porn in the p2p networks i have visited , there is much more just in simply using searchengines.Any kid can type soemthing in google and find smut, its about mentoring and teaching your kids to be educated and respectable people. Ive searched many terabytes. Most filesharers i have talked to are about good music and expanding musical tastes internationally. Most of them buy the actual cd's and albums ,vinyl if they can afford it. Which i find intresting. I never ever used napster and kazza..these networks that brought p2p more public and tried to make money really screwed us all!!Bigtime napster and kazza and all the rest are what were the initial catalysts.I thik they fully knew they would have trouble it was part of the business model not caring about tecnology and more about money.. Im not advocating filesharing its your choice..any highly publicised filesharing app means trouble in my book. stick to opensource p2p apps..So this situation has turned into a real thanks kazza and napster you pricks. Greedy bastards.
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Zuckuss
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 10:26 AM
First rule of a defense attorney:
If your defendant is guilty as hell and you don't have a case then smear the plantiff any way possible.
Pretty big parallel here to me.
As others have said, porn uses every medium know to man. You might as well ban telephones, television and magazines while you're at it. RIAA has about as much ground as Larry Flynt to be speaking out for our children's welfare.
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woodhead
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 10:33 AM
RIAA has about as much ground as Larry Flynt to be speaking out for our children's welfare
Great point!, The RIAA has been peddling smut for years, talk about hipocrasy.
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CodeWarrior
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 11:41 AM
You know what is very concerning to me?
It concerns me greatly that the RIAA is spending time looking for kiddie porn on P2P networks instead of trying to establish a level playing field for musicians. And, unless they click on any files they find, how do they KNOW they are kiddie porn,and if they do download it, that's an illegal act , so let's see the RIAA get prosecuted!
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GnutProductions
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 11:54 AM
Well we all know this isnt the facts code..prob no files were found in reality..its trying to play a card. The take the focus of what really at issue here..i had grammy.com scanning around lately on ip ranges on my network. What on earth would grammy.com be scanning ip ranges for these guys are just going to far. Its insanity it seems like its all just a waste of resources..oh well we shall see how much time they want to waste and money they wish to spend and seal the grave good.
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purfus
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 2:04 PM
"RIAA President Cary Sherman paints vivid images of pedophiles sending "instant message[s] to the unwitting young person who downloads an Olsen twins or Pokemon file from the pedophile's share folder on KaZaA" in order to lure minors into viewing or worse…participate in child pornography. "
That's quite the stretch...... I would also bet that the 70 year old pedaphile in this strange scenareo would end up communicating with another 70 year old pedefile pretending to be a teen....
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goldenpi
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 2:08 PM
Executive VP of Sherman Networks (Mr. Alan Morris) responded by saying the RIAA is engaged in a "deliberate campaign to try to smear P2P technology itself," incidentally after the Californian federal court rejected the RIAA's demand to close P2P networks in an intense legal showdown back in April.
Absolutly correct. If theres one thing the RIAA does well, its slinging mud. It may occasionally fling it into the wind, but it slings a lot.
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woodhead
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 2:57 PM
the RIAA is spending time looking for kiddie porn on P2P networks instead of trying to establish a level playing field for musicians.
Code this is the last thing that the RIAA want, if there were an even playing field, then they would not be able to control what the masses listen to, thjere fore thier false market would bottom out.
I also agree with you with the downloading of kidde porn, if they are finding it they should be arrested, and asked questions about that later. Perverts
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CodeWarrior
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 4:21 PM
My point about whether they downloaded filez or not was that anyone who has been on kazaa, know that people mislabel files, and the only way to find out what a file really is (assuming the file size is in a reasonable range) is to d/l. In court, the toadies for the RIAA darn well better have d/l enough of the alleged copyrighted MP3s to prove that it actually is what the title of the file purports it to be. You can name a jpeg,gif,bmp,png, or any other format..."real_picture_of_bigfoot.jpg", but, you can d/l the file and find it's a picture of a a giant four wheel drive pickup truck.
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woodhead
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 5:13 PM
Code your right I have download tunes to find out it was not what I thought it was, man that was rotten.
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tasadar24
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 10:27 PM
Just two throw in my other 2 cents, I think I'd find more pedophiles on AIM then on P2P, why, you ask? because its easier, and P2P IMing sux...
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stilltrying
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Date: November 5, 2003 @ 10:58 PM
CODE I think it's CARY that's looking for all that KIDDIE PORN!!!! Hillary helps him in the search engines as well !!!You know our man CARY he's all MAN!!!! HMMM????LOL
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boycotter
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Date: November 6, 2003 @ 12:36 AM
Then somebody needs to shut down MTV, MTV2, MTVEurope and VH1 for selling the Music Industries SMUT PORN!!!! BIGOTS!!!!
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Foopah
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Date: November 6, 2003 @ 9:32 AM
This is cool, the RIAA is calling the kettle black!
So, I guess if it's the commercial interest of a large corporation, it's OK to portray a young 17 year old girl as a sexpot, so long as it's in the BEST interest of the corporate bottom line.
So are they capitulating that fact by not pulling the guns out on the publishers of Rolling Stones 'zine? Someone in Congress needs to know this, perhaps we should ALL email our respective Senators and House Representatives about this OFTEN overlooked fact and ask the RIAA if magazine publishers that produce sexually innuendoistic (is there such a word?) photographs of minors is in the BEST INTEREST of the CORPORATE bottom line so long as it's pertaining to the MUSIC industry?
Oh wait, the MPAA represents the movie production studio that produced the late 70's ALMOST(!?)-soft porn movie about a pedophile photographer with Brooke Sheilds as a young, nude minor in the movie. So, does THAT also mean, again, if it is in the BEST INTEREST of the CORPORATE bottom line for >>>HOLLYWOOD
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Foopah
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Date: November 6, 2003 @ 9:39 AM
oops, continued as...
then they are sheilded from the laws of the masses?
What is amazing about these two rep groups is that they often go out on a limb, and shoot it off, when they talk about the trafficking of child pornography on the internet. It is disgusting to know that so long as it is in the best interest of the shareholders of the large music and motion picture studios, illicit and illegal sexual images are worth every corporate penny to be spent on without any foreseeable punishment, yet, when it comes to everyone else, we all have to bend over and get it up the backside because, according to them, we, the American People, are not being best served to our interest if it's not a corporate entity behind the material that is published.
So, when does the revolution begin -HA! (ok, nevermind, lame attempt at MPAA humor about the movie that was just released).
I'm going back to work now...
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