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Are file downloaders Communists?
Posted by Bluegrassleflaw in on October 19, 2003 at 11:15 PM






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Alternativeashleighj
Date: October 19, 2003 @ 11:20 PM
oh yeah.. this is classic. :) (Smile)
Alternativeashleighj
Date: October 19, 2003 @ 11:22 PM
and the answer to the question is "no". it seems very obvious why not.
DMemberTheFirstNutZo
Date: October 19, 2003 @ 11:22 PM
if by 'file downloaders' the term meant is music file sharers, then I suppose in a way we are.
DMemberTheFirstNutZo
Date: October 19, 2003 @ 11:23 PM
commented before I saw the image, now I feel dumb.
Advancedcaptdunsel
Date: October 19, 2003 @ 11:25 PM
I think I'll print that in poster size and put it up in my room. right above my computer.
DMemberdakota81
Date: October 19, 2003 @ 11:35 PM
Considering this image is a mere spoof...

The communism joke is always great, though; nice touch!
Intermediatepurfus
Date: October 19, 2003 @ 11:37 PM
oh thats just retarded? Is that real? 'Downloading Communism'?? As if one could download a way of thought into their mind. I suppose that it could be partially true in that one downloads the product of communism. Sense the downloads I assume they are talking about are big label songs.
DMemberIn-Flames
Date: October 19, 2003 @ 11:41 PM
lol, that's classic.

I'd change it to this:

"When you buy RIAA music, you're supporting communism"

lol, now that i think of it... that would make a funny pic
DMemberIn-Flames
Date: October 19, 2003 @ 11:42 PM
i just need a pic of a small kid holding a CD standing next to Fidel Castro
DMemberTechnoPuppet
Date: October 19, 2003 @ 11:45 PM

I love it...do i have permission to use it as my wallpaper?
DMemberEmeraude
Date: October 19, 2003 @ 11:53 PM
It should say...

WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD MP3'S,
WE RESORT TO COMMUNISM!
DMemberbluerhythmjo...
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 12:06 AM
The whole idea of communism is that everybody gives some of what they have so everybody gets what they need. Obviously this has not turned out to work well with tangible things... but it kicks ass for music! :-D (Big Grin)
DMembermusicfreedom
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 12:20 AM
Well we can obviously see why a group of huge corporations would hate communism.
DMemberSeikatsu
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 12:27 AM
Then why do they support it? :LMAO:
DMemberSeikatsu
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 12:28 AM
LMAO
DMemberKarelPie
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 12:32 AM
well ... a couple of comments ...
This poster is obviously referring to the "Red Scare" of the Cold War Era. It implies that the RIAA's campaign is like the McCarthy HUAC hearings. In this regard, the poster is good.
However, file-sharing IS communism. Allow me to explain...
Communism holds that all people own everthing. This is the same thing filesharing promotes: everone on the network has access to all the files on it. "Communism" as an evil is generally thought of in relation to "evil" nations such as the USSR, North Korea, (North) Vietnam and Cuba. These nations are/were NOT Communist!!! If they were, there would be no dictator. The people would rule in harmony. These nations are/were socialist dictatorships, in which the government controls everthing. In true communism, the people control and own everything. True communism has never been practiced on a national scale. It is highly unlikely that it could ever prosper on such a large level. Too many people would disagree with each other. People are often selfish (cough...RIAA...cough). Thus communism would collapse.
RockgdZiemann
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 12:41 AM
Notice that it's an iMac. The RIAA thinks Apple is communist, too?

We can't even get at the pirated stuff!
DMemberZuckuss
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 1:06 AM
I love it! I needed a good laugh today.

George - Maybe the RIAA is secretly funding Apple! :) (Smile)
DMemberjj-jablonski
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 1:39 AM
Perhaps the RIAA has been infiltrated by Al Queada as well, and they plan on placing microscopic filiments which when hit by a lser will ignite and emit a noxious gas.


laugh all you want, im sure 95% of the people in the world would be surprised how easily that could be done if the CD material was molded a certain way.
DMemberDJSupreme23
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 9:35 AM
Filesharing = Communism ? Bullshit. Don't assign political motives to what is essentially a protest against the tyranny of the RIAA + record labels.
DMemberboycotter
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 11:03 AM
LOL they trying to turn the tables huh.. thought they'd use our ideas on them being communist.. ahhhh copyright sue the suckers!!!!!
DMemberviscix
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 11:08 AM
My understaning is that the closest thing to communism the world has ever seen got wiped from the face of the Earth shortly (from a historical standpoint) after Columbus arrived in the Americas.

Authoritarianism and communism seem to be badly mixed up in most American minds - in some really bizzarre fashion, people associate communist ideas with authoriatrian ones, but label anti-authoritarian actions as communist. Bleah. Propaganda.
DMemberwethepeople
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 11:28 AM
I thought we were promoting communism by buying cds and giving more power to the secret police of the US (the RIAA) so they can continue to brainwash us and sue us.

Funny how they are trying to use reverse psychology on us.

If communism is so bad, why is our own government allowing our jobs to flee to COMMUNIST China. Hell, many of our "friends" in the UN are communist. Us good ole patriotic Americans are confused and unemployed.

I always thought communism was really bad, afterall that's what we were told, but these days, the actions of our elected officials are sending a totally different message.

Now if it would have had a picture of the twin towers smoking behind the kid and said "when you download mp3s you are supporting terrorism", they may have suckered more people.

I like the detail of the satan guy. They should know exactly what satan looks like since they are in league with the devil.

DMemberTheFirstNutZo
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 12:38 PM
there are no communist governments in the world. PERIOD. There are dictatorships that are labeled communist, but they aren't communist. read up some people posted exactly what communism is, and what N Korea, China, etc. are. They are socialist dictatorships, that are unfairly and unjustly called communist (its an insult to the communist ideal).
DMemberscayf
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 12:55 PM
Y'know...we need a poster like that saying:

"When you buy RIAA-member music, your supporting Organized Crime" and have a pic of Al Capone standing behind a little schoolgirl, rubbing his hands perversely, as she pulls an Eminem CD from the rack.
DMemberfatchuck
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 12:55 PM
Didn't see this mentioned in the thread, but that picture is from the front of a t-shirt that I bought in 2002. It always gets a few snickers when I wear it out since it's so campy and over the top (a la "Reefer Madness" about marijuana).

You can see the t-shirt here:
http://www.modernhumorist.com/mh/0004/propaganda/mp3.cfm

Peace,
Chuck
DMemberPrideful-Chr...
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 1:22 PM
Those fucken bastards at the RIAA are COMMUNISTS!!!!!! They are trying to convince people who download music as communists? BULLSHIT you scapegoat riaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nobody believe any of the riaa's BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!! DAMN the riaa to HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Intermediatepaulruss
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 1:40 PM
RRRR!!!!!!! Yeah!

Nice. Rage!

Prideful, the poster is a parody from modern humanist. They're poking fun at the RIAA by equating their campaign to McCarthyism.

But I love the honesty of your response!

Paul
Intermediatepaulruss
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 1:41 PM
Sorry, Modern Humorist. I must've been thinking about humanism, which is always on my mind.

Have a super day!

Paul
DMemberb1
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 1:50 PM
It sounds like some of you are trying to defend communism in some way? Communism doesn't work guys. It's main flaw is that when everyone is provided for equaly then there is no drive to improve our lot in life. We get bored, and pissed off. We need competition. It invigorates us, makes us better individuals.

But pure capitalism is also flawed. Ever heard of the saying "The rich get richer and the poor get poorer". This is bad! It results in power overtime being controlled by fewer and fewer people, until eventually...revolution! (the masses wise up and over throw the few). To combat this problem we have governments. Governments exist to keep the rich-get-richer problem in check. The problem with this of course is that governments need money to get elected (advertising budgets etc); and media is controlled by the rich wanting to get richer :) (Smile). (In some countries political election ads are free).

So are file swappers comunists? I don't know. I don't think so. I still want to get out there and compete, although I guess you could argue that a lot of kids these days live there lives on the computer. They download everything thing they need to stimulate their mind, like music and software like games, but also software like CAD for modelling, art software like Photoshop. None of it payed for. They don't go out and compete in the real world; perhaps they live with their parents or on the dole. Is this a depressed corrupt (not in the crime sense) society? Don't ask me - go away, my head hurts.

I do know one thing though, I believe in freedom of information, for the good of the human race and the speed at which it advances (internet good). But I also believe in the rights of the individual (right to be compensated for his creations). Where is the middle ground? Do we need a middle ground - is there a model that would support both? Certainly reasonable copyright laws are a start, not current push for stricter/longer duration CR laws. I think there is a perfect model out there but it's only a hunch :) (Smile). If you know what this utopian paradise is post it here :) (Smile).

Btw, China is not communist it's capatilist just like the USA. It's just not a democracy. A one party, communist state is very bad - all these are gone (no wait, North Korea - what a hole). A one party capitilist state is just bad - "Absolute power corrupts absolutely"; humans need change constantly so fixed one party government just does not work because it does not allow for change when things start to stagnate and go bad (Tiananmen Square). A democratic capatilist state is good but still has flaws (rich-get-richer problem, also rapes environment). The .....? ......? state is very good. We've still haven't discovered the perfect political/econmic/social model yet.
DMemberbauhaus
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 1:55 PM
When u sue your own customers, does that make you Facist?
DMemberzachary1
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 4:01 PM
@Karel Pie...exactly! All you posters should reread this person's comment.

Carefully.

Communism is thrown about like an oversused label...like "Anti-Semite". There ARE desirable aspects to Communism...and Socialist countries like N. Korea, China, Cuba, etc. DON'T practice them!

The USA, btw, is less and less capitalist than it is CORPORATIST, aka fascist Mussolini-style.

Corporatism, disguised as capitalism, is an enemy of true communism, because it wants to destroy government, and our commons that we people want and take for granted, such as our creative commons.

It advocates no social safety nets, and would have everything user-pay-as-you-go. That's selfish, and impractical in a civilized society.

True "Communism" allows people to pay taxes so we can all benefit from basic necessary infrastructure.

True Communism allows small business to flourish, yet censures large corporations from getting too powerful, and demands that they serve THE PEOPLE.

That's why coporate CHARTERS are created in each jurisdiction a corporation wishes to do business. Either they abide by the rules to serve the people, or they are DISSOLVED!

That, folks, is REAL (not socialist) communism. Government, OF, BY, and FOR the people, as our servant for the greater good.

That is the true America that the forefathers envisioned. Not the bastardized, corporatized, version of today.

Communism, by its very word, is all about the community, and the common interests we all have in living in civilized society.

Don't diss communism, until you understand the definitions, inside and out.

Don't confuse totalitarianism/socialism with communism. Don't confuse fascism/corporatism with capitalism. They are ugly disguises.
Intermediatepaulruss
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 4:19 PM
bauhaus, is bela lugosi really dead? Has the sky truly gone out? Are you a stigmata martyr?

lol, sorry, had to ask.

Dunno if it's facism, but I don't like it one bit.

I think that zachary makes great points.

Have a super day!

Paul
DMemberIn-Flames
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 4:40 PM
another pic idea:

get a pic of towelheads with guns, and put this caption in: "when you buy RIAA-member music, you are supporting terrorism" lol
Intermediatepaulruss
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 5:03 PM
"towelheads"

Poor choice of word there, pal. Try "Al-Queda terrorist", instead.

Have a nice day,

Paul
DMemberIn-Flames
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 5:15 PM
errrr ya lol... what was i thinking :| (Blank Stare)
DMemberfrancechic
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 5:23 PM
the riaa r the real communists. and they jus wanna make it luk like we r. foolish, silly oldfartz!!!!!!!!!!!! :) (Smile):) (Smile):) (Smile):) (Smile):) (Smile):) (Smile):) (Smile):) (Smile)
AdvancedKarmatic
Date: October 20, 2003 @ 6:59 PM
that is a classic pcture
DMemberbauhaus
Date: October 21, 2003 @ 3:38 PM
Paulruss

Bela aint dead, he has an injunction placed on him by the RIAA.

The only sky gonig out, will be on old skool business models!

;) (Wink)
DMemberboycotter
Date: October 22, 2003 @ 2:19 AM
Communism is control and where the rich get richer and prey on people they consider lower than them!!!! So who fits that profile? My spouse was raised in a Communist Controled society and now he sees it here in the US.. my spouse has also started reading posts here because I come here everyday. When I started to boycott the spouse wasn't to much for it. Now we are united on our fight against both MPAA and RIAA!
KEEP ON BOYCOTTING! :) (Smile)
AdvancedPhantomGhost
Date: December 5, 2003 @ 1:24 PM
The RIAA will do anything. Just watch them sink to new lows of idiocy.
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