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Deftones dump bootlegs
Posted by AdvancedJon Newton in on September 20, 2003 at 12:52 PM



Go to the Deftones homesite here and look for bootlegs and you get, "taken down for now .... sorry".

Por que?

RIAA member Maverick Records has apparently forced the group to dump 49 live bootleg recordings from their website, the group says here.

"I think Maverick got mad because they own all that music ... it was our idea to put it up there, but I think we were maybe supposed to ask permission or something," singer Chino Moreno is quoted as saying.

The bootlegs were recorded at various shows in 1992, 1995, and 2000 and until Maverick got upset, were available for free download from the site.


User Comments

Metalwoodhead
Date: September 20, 2003 @ 1:57 PM
OH that is bull, if a band or artist wants to let their fans download music that has not been released, they should be able to. A record company telling bands / artist what they can have on thier web site is pure crap.
If the band wrote the tunes and played the tunes they should be allowed
to do with it as they like. Copy right law needs to be changed to not only protect the consumer, but the artist as well. GEez will the recording industry ever stop this non sense.
Advancedsoundsseeker
Date: September 20, 2003 @ 2:05 PM
Unbelievable, that you can no longer record an experience because it contains copyrighted music.
Which is what these bootlegs are, experiences, and the band should have the freedom to share their "experience" if they so desire, for or not for compensation, whichever they desire. It is their performance.
Nodding eve
DMemberburner97119
Date: September 20, 2003 @ 2:09 PM
its too bad they signed with the lable and gave away their rights to their own music
DMemberotech1
Date: September 20, 2003 @ 3:32 PM

The music industry doing what they do best, chase away customers ...

Remember the famous New York Times cartoon ?

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2003/09/16/arts/20030916_POPLIFE_IMAGE.html?8hpib

This was an easy way to teach children about the bad RIAA (and ASCAP).


Oh my, here comes another music industry attack

http://www.indystar.com/print/articles/3/074583-4523-009.html


Gee, it's getting hard to keep up with their ever changing rules. Guess we'll have to add BMI to the bad list.
ElectronicVeracohr
Date: September 20, 2003 @ 3:44 PM
If the label made them take it down, that means it being available for download was in breach of contract. They either knew when they did it, or they should have paid more attention to their contract.
Metalwoodhead
Date: September 20, 2003 @ 6:55 PM
They either knew when they did it, or they should have paid more attention to their contract.

IF the band wrote the tune's, preformed the tunes and want to share with there fans they should be allowed to do so. And not have a corporation
tell them to take down their songs. This is why the copyright laws need to be changed, to protect the artist from a corporation that has complete control over some one's material that they did not write, preform all they did was steal the rights from a band and are now controlling what they can or cannot do with THEIR music. We should all be up in arms about this.
Hiphoptrillcitypoet
Date: September 21, 2003 @ 1:29 PM
corporate crushers, the kingpins of the industry get carried away. they make too much money as it is, still they bitch.
DMembertweedernpc
Date: September 21, 2003 @ 2:42 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Jeremy Welt from Maverick Records go on and on about how they allow there artists to post songs on their sites. He went on and on about it during the Music War show on Tech TV.
ElectronicVeracohr
Date: September 21, 2003 @ 7:03 PM
"IF the band wrote the tune's, preformed the tunes and want to share with there fans they should be allowed to do so. And not have a corporation
tell them to take down their songs."

This isn't a copyright issue, it's a contract issue. Copyright involves things like copying, distrubution and sales. The Deftones probably had a section of their contract that said something like "No recording shall be made available to the public without label approval."
JazzJazzmary2U
Date: September 21, 2003 @ 8:35 PM
I agree with Veracohr.. so all you young musicians, take heed.. have an ENTERTAINMENT ATTORNEY.. go over ANY contracts you sign with a fine-toothed comb. As for me I don't sign any of that crap. Any Riaa contract is musical sharecropping. You do the work, they own everything and get the money. Wise up, y'all and leave that garbage alone. There are music business books that enlighten you to the tricks these goons pull.. read 'em.

BOYCOTT. EDUCATE. REGISTER. VOTE.
ARE YOU REGISTERED AND READY?
Alternativeoat
Date: September 22, 2003 @ 7:35 AM
My good friend Sam would say "Gluehead" to Maveric Records. Live recording are a boon to bands. Think about every band that let's the audience record freely. Bootlegs put fans in seats and creates another connection between the audience and the music they love. Some business advice for Maveric, long term/big picture, keep those terms in mind when makin decisions. I'm really serious...
have a nice day
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