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RIAA - struggling in the mud
Posted by AdvancedJon Newton in on September 10, 2003 at 10:14 AM



The tide has been going out for the music industry for some time. But it finally turned when the RIAA landed a 12-year-old girl in its sue 'em all net.

Nothing could have been better designed to underscore the insufferable arrogance of both the Big Five record labels and its own private police force - the RIAA.

The case has also at last had an effect on the mainstream media which, until now, have been used to treating every RIAA/music industry utterance as if it came from on-high.

However, that's changing too, as exemplified by an opinion piece by USA Today technology writer Kevin Maney.

It says it all, and you can read the whole piece below.

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Music industry doesn't know what else to do as it lashes out at file-sharing

OK, so the music industry is acting with all the clumsy brutality of the British Raj trying to snuff Mohandas Gandhi's civil disobedience in 1930s India.

But that's hardly the real problem here.

First of all, nobody ever liked music companies anyway. Not the fans, who have long complained that recordings cost too much, whether on vinyl, eight-track tapes, cassettes or CDs. Certainly not the artists. In the 1960s, The Byrds cut So You Want To Be a Rock 'n' Roll Star: "Sell your soul to the company/ Who are waiting there to sell plastic ware." In her 1990s song Right Through You, Alanis Morissette wailed at a record executive who had spurned her: "Now that I'm a zillionaire/ You scan the credits for your name/ And wonder why it's not there." (Background: More music and technology coverage)

So the emotional argument du jour — that the music industry's file-sharing lawsuits are a huge mistake and will only alienate the public — doesn't work. The industry is deaf to such advice. It's like trying to tell a heavy smoker that he should give up his recent doughnut habit lest his health suffer.

This week, the music industry — as represented by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) — filed lawsuits against 261 individuals who have allegedly illegally downloaded 1,000-plus songs over the Internet. It's the RIAA's latest tactic in a campaign to stop people from getting free music using programs such as KaZaA and Grokster, and the industry promises to file thousands more similar lawsuits in coming months.

It might be a malicious, contemptible act, but it's like a 9-year-old who throws a tantrum — which, as Dr. Phil would say, is usually about something deeper that the tyke feels powerless to change.

The RIAA is lashing out because it has no idea what else to do. And there's a reason for that. Nothing like its situation has existed before.

Emerging technology has deeply rattled lots of business models and whole industries over the centuries. Electricity doused a booming kerosene business for lamps. Cars overran the buggy business. Digital cameras are doing the same to film.

But rarely, if ever, has the losing industry blamed its customers. The villain was always a competitor — some upstart business. Even when a new technology allowed consumers to chip away at a business — think of a VCR's ability to copy movies — they could never do it on a scale big enough to do real damage. But with music file- sharing, they can.

Other twists make the music situation even weirder. Despite having popular sentiment on their side, file-sharers are literally breaking the law. Not only that, but they're stealing money from the very artists they love, and who — except for the superstars — are not rich enough to miss the income. In the story of the RIAA's lawsuits, there are no good guys.

Are there lessons from history? Maybe in Gandhi's India. The British ruled for nearly 100 years before Indians began making their own salt, boycotting imported cloth and otherwise breaking the law. It was a popular uprising that could not be stopped. The Brits threw people in jail, until the jails overflowed. The RIAA is facing similar mass disobedience. In the end, the British lost control over India. Is that the fate of the music industry's control over songs?

On a different level, Hollywood faced a similar crisis when television took off in the 1940s. Just like personal computers in the past decade, TV sets whooshed into the market, bringing new, mind-blowing electronic capabilities into homes.

Before TV, people had to pay for visual entertainment. As with file-sharing and music, advertising-supported TV allowed people to suddenly see news and entertainment for free.

Weekly attendance at movie theaters dived from 80 million in 1946 to 12 million by 1972, according to The American Film Industry, edited by Tino Balio. The number of films made dropped from 445 a year in the 1940s to 150 in the 1970s.

The studio system fell apart. The industry slowly reorganized around making blockbusters and niche films instead of a steady stream of mediocre movies. Not until the 1990s — and, ironically, the boom in income from video rentals — did the movie industry truly recover from the blow of massively free entertainment.

In other words, it took Hollywood almost 50 years to figure out how to deal with TV. The music companies have had less than 50 months. There's some perspective for the people who say the music industry has been glacial in its efforts to offer legitimate music on sites such as Apple's iTunes.

In the meantime, this could turn into a societal crisis. When TV made entertainment free to consumers, artists still got paid because of advertising. It was just a new business model. When the British left India, the Indians created a new civil model.

But if free downloading takes over, there is no new model. The music companies will suffer, but so will the artists — and probably anyone who loves music.

That's not an apology for the lawsuits. Just a way to say that nobody's happy here, nobody's right, and nobody's behaving very well. Apple might be lighting a pathway out of this mess. Maybe it will take a greater power.

Calling Dr. Phil?




User Comments

AdvancedPhantomGhost
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:19 AM
hmmmm. Interesting. First post.
DMemberMalchus
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:21 AM
The only thing he misses is that most people would love to make sure the artists got paid if a system was put into place to do that.
AdvancedPhantomGhost
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:23 AM
Of course, we all know the RIAA likes to consider itself as the world's foremost digital SWAT team. The only thing is, the team is biased. Instead of going after people who create viruses and those pesky al-quadia terrorists, they focus exclusively on copyright infringement....infringement which doesn't seem to be hurting anyone except themselves.

Consumers profit from it.
Artists can profit from it, easily.
The record labels? Who needs them?

The thing is, the only way you can stop the SWAT team is to have an audit done on it, which we already have. Then you need the mayor to get involved. That's the step we face now- get the U.S. government involved in stopping the RIAA. Sadly, this day may be a while in coming.
DMembertuggle58
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:24 AM
You know it is bad when a sports http://www.freep.com/sports/albom/mitch7_20030907.htmwriter puts this whole mess in perspective
DMemberluthien
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:31 AM
Perhaps artists could bundle free versions of their songs with an advertisement, and get paid by advertisers who monitor how many people download their tracks??? Quite similar to add breaks on TV. Even if people then alter the track by removing the ad, they will still hear it at least once, and the advertiser will have gotten their money's worth. Of course this means all earnings go to the artist, not the recording industry ;) (Wink)
DMemberAnti-RIAA
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:35 AM
Just want to say that I have been reading everyone's posts for about 2 weeks and I really like what you guys have to say. Everyone here seems very intelligent and articulate. I have been telling everyone I know to boycott all RIAA affiliated labels. Fortunately for me I don't listen to any of the crap they spew forth from their rectums anyway. I am a techno and house fan and it seems like techno artists are in it for the right reasons-to have their music heard, loved, and have people dance! I already called the # I saw from another article and told the RIAA that I am boycotting them, and I will be emailing with you guys tomorrow. Keep the fight up!!!!
DMembernyer82
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:36 AM
Here another link that actually works for the sports writer article.

http://www.freep.com/sports/albom/mitch7_20030907.htm

Delete (br) from the end of my url if it screws up.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:37 AM
They're chin deep in something brown and viscous, but I'm not sure it's mud.
The "hearings" that were held about P2P and child pornography, by Open Hatch..err..."Orrin" Hatch, I am afraid are where its going next. FBI and child porn task forces trying to shut P2P services down through criminal prosecutions. Just watch 'em.

"Mr. Sherman,at long last, sir, have you no sense of decency? Have you no shame?"
~code
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:39 AM
Anti-RIAA, welcome to the right side of things! Good post! We need every fighter for freedom we can get.
~code
Metalwoodhead
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:43 AM
Welcome anti-riaa and thank you for joining the fight.
DMembersmartassologist
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:48 AM
Could someone direct me to the number for for the riaa? Would love to call and tell them what I think.
DMembernyer82
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:56 AM
I am not sure how to do this:

But I think us, as internet-users should find a way to STALK the members of the RIAA, not just their official numbers, but their home numbers. The same way they stalk us.

And then harass them.
here is the RIAA's info

RIAA (Record Industry Association of America)

1330 Connecticut Ave. NW, Suite 300

Washington, DC 20036

Tel: (202) 775-0101

Fax: (202) 775-7253

webmaster@riaa.com

DMembersmartassologist
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:59 AM
Thanks for the info...am calling now.
DMemberAnti-RIAA
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:00 AM
Wait I think there is a 1800 #. Don't spend your dime yet.
DMemberpa-snoborder
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:00 AM
Not since the war have i found a cause worthy to back. The fury has been brewing inside me for a long time now to lash out at the RIAA. Ever since I've had to pay 20 dollars for a CD, through all the threatening articles, and especially now that they sued a 12 year old. Reminds me of a schoolyard bully picking on a much weaker child because it knows its really not in control of anything. I want to be a major influence in my area against the RIAA, because I know no one around here will answer that call. Hook me up with all the news. Until later...
DMemberwardku
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:01 AM
Where's the ACLU?
DMemberAnti-RIAA
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:03 AM
Here's the 1800 # I copyright infringed from another post :D (Big Grin)

"3) Call them at 1-800-223-2328
What the hell, it's their dime so call to express your outrage and pledge to boycott them."


DMemberRissa1064
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:16 AM
I've been following the stories of individual file swappers being sued by the RIAA for a couple months now and found this site last week. I joined today when I read about the 12 year old being sued. That really had me steaming. I don't know what makes the RIAA think they are going to stop the sharing of music. They can shut down P2P sites but how are they going regulate the kids who bring home their buddy's newly purchased "Good Charlotte" CD and copy it on daddy's CD burner? The RIAA needs to get with times before they alienate the kids as well as adults like me. I'm ending all my email subscriptions to Epic, Sony and the like. I'm one in millions but they are not getting my money anymore!
DMembersmartassologist
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:22 AM
*Laughing* To late I already called. However I pay a small fee for long distance...Thinking maybe I should let all my friends and family use my phone....The receptionist I talked to did not sound to worried that I will no longer by cd's. Then my mother called, Oh joy I come from a very big family...and I have two phone lines....
DMemberotech1
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:25 AM

- Suing underage children
- Singling out minorities
- Promoting pornographic music

I see some civil laws being broken here.

What does the ACLU or EFF have to say about this ?


DMemberroliva
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:27 AM
Remember when Al Gore said a vote for Ralph Nader is a vote for George Bush? He was assuming that if you didn't vote for Nader you would vote for him. That's a bit arrogant isn't it?

Same thing here - If you download music you're "stealing" from the artist. No you're not. They're assuming that if you didn't download it then you'd buy it. I own nearly 400 CDs. I still buy the ones I really like, and I still don't buy the ones I don't like. The quality is better, they don't scratch as easy, and you get all the liner notes in a neat little package.

Also - sometimes I download songs that I already own because its faster than putting the CDs in the drive one at a time. I can just queue them all up and come back in a half hour and they're all there.

I feel like rambling on some more so here goes...

Artists get 5-10% of the MSRP each time an album sells. So they sell 1,000,000 copies and the artists gets about $100,000. Then their manager gets 15%, so that leaves $85,000. Divided by 5 members in the band (assuming they split it evenly) leaves them with $17,000 a piece, which is the same as working full time for $8.50/hr (with 2 weeks unpaid vacation). However, artists get about 50% of merchandising. So, a kid 'steals' the CD, but buys the t-shirt for $15, and the artist sells 10,000 t-shirts (much less than 1,000,000 CDs), and they earn the same $75,000. Then they sell 10,000 posters for $8, and that's an extra $40,000. Then they sell lunch boxes and bubble gum and hairspray and whatever the hell else they sell and they earn more. I'm not sure what the percentage is for concerts, but I think its around 25%. I may be wrong. But you get my point.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:30 AM
LOL..yeah, call and ask to speak to their general counsel, Cary-SUE Sherman, and if you get him on the line..ask him...verbatim...
"Mr. Sherman,at long last, sir, have you no sense of decency? Have you no shame?"
DMemberJohnCarlton02
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:34 AM
When will the musicians realize for every dollar the RIAA collects from suing 12 year olds (& others), they (the musicians) will see ZERO of that money?

Meanwhile, customers are just getting more pissed off by the RIAA's tactics, & when they quit buying CDs (don't forget the Xmas shopping season is coming up), the labels & musicians are the ones who are getting screwed.

Bottom line is the RIAA isn't helping to put more money into the pockets of musicians & labels (the ones they claim to be defending), they're just costing them sales & fan goodwill.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:36 AM
PS...I've found that in videotaped depositions in which there is a court reporter with their little machine, that if the attorney for the other side is not respectful to you, start answering each of their questions by using the word "Shyster ____" and their last name. I actually did that and he stopped the depo to have a talk with me. I told him I would continue that on the record until he gave me proper respect. We cut a little deal,a nd he continued , but with respect. Needless to say, it became an abbreviated deposition...and btw, my side won.
DMemberboomfoot
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:37 AM
There has been a great discussion on the Yahoo! boards over this.

I've been successful, though in telling people that they need to not only boycott CD's at the store, but to also STOP DOWNLOADING the RIAA music. This makes sense since they'll have no one to blame when Downloads are down and they STILL lose money on CD sales.

Keep on fighting, it looks like more and more join this side every single day.
DMemberNeghVar
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:39 AM
Other artist should follow what "The Greatful Dead" did. At a concert, they took orders for CDs of their music. They created them and printed on them all by themselves. Bypassing RIAA and the publishers all together.
DMemberghosthouse
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:44 AM
I like the part about how the RIAA is blaiming its customers for a changing technology. It the computer world, you either move with it, or die. There is only one business that is bigger than radio, music, movies, TV...etc, and that is video games. Only one other business is predicted to get bigger than video games and that is none-other than the internet itself. What is the video game industry planning on doing about it??? Go with the flow and use the internet to its advantage. Very smart move, and my money will always be spent on video games (mostly computer games like Soldier of Fortune 2, and Half Life 2) rather than spend my money on stupid CDs that the RIAA is behind. Believe me, I'd rather spend my money on an industry that has promise, not one who stabs its own customers in the back. You know, when video game roms and emulators came onto the digital scene, you didn't see the video game industry whining and crying like a bunch of 3-year-olds. Instead, through the law, they shut down the sites supporting roms and emulators and educated the public. And it put more money in their pockets. Because they gained the respect of the consumer -- who is the most powerful financial entity for any business.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:45 AM
NeghVar- that's the kind of thing I have been advocating from day one of my involvement here. money going right to the people that create the tunes..not to Cary-Sue
DMemberotech1
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:47 AM

The RIAA has already stated that any money collected from the lawsuits will not go to the artists and musicians.

It will be used for their own salary ... uh ... for the costs of filing more even more lawsuits. This is known as the 'perpetual income' law.
DMemberdaytwo777
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:51 AM
I was so glad to find this site. I am from a small business and we play music to the public. We pay our BMI and ASCAP fees and even went to buy music dot com and purchased a few songs for 79 cent each. To recap, I paid for the music and the right to play it to the public, but ya know what, IT DOESN'T WORK ON OUR SYSTEM!!! Which means we won't get any music ever again from there. We were willing to pay for the songs but they're so worried about what i'm gonna do with it that they have to mess the file up. I've had it. If these people would get their shit together, they could be making money, but they keep screwing it up. I also read that none of the money from any of these lawsuits is going to any of the artists (who they're supposedly trying to protect.) Who the fuck are these people?? That was the last straw for me, I am no longer purchasing any music from any RIAA sponsored label ever again. keep up the fight
DMemberdaytwo777
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:53 AM
sorry bout the language, I'm just so mad
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 12:00 PM
This suing people is not really to make a bunch of money. They are rolling in dough, believe me. There is indeed a dark purpose behind it though if you look deeper.

Amnesty, Shamnesty, They are wanting thousands and millions of signed confessions of lawbreaking that are admissable in criminal courts, and before grand juries in the various states, so that, when the big push for criminal enforcement occurs, where the RIAA is trying to get the FBI to shut all the P2P sites down, they can make a big show of hauling in box after box of signed confessions with pictures, names , addresses, and lists of songs downloaded.

Come on folks, the RIAA's ultimate goal is not suing a 12 year old here and a 71 year old there, or an unemployed woman. They are out for one thing. They want to shut down ALL P2P networks, and then, once that is accomplished, open their own outlets for distribution, so they can monopolize that distribution channel.

I'm sorry to be gruff. But people are dancing around and around on this. Cary Sherman, Howard Berman, and the rest, have been bugging the DOJ and FBI to start arresting and charging P2P-ers under the Net Act. This is why they had the hearing on the 9th of September, to say that the P2P networks are just channels for kiddie porn, so they can shut them down.

How many agree with me on this?
:) (Smile)
~code

"Mr. Sherman,at long last, sir, have you no sense of decency? Have you no shame?"
~code
DMemberotech1
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 12:00 PM
daytwo777:

Did you know that you don't have to pay any license fee for Indie music, contact the Indie musician, they would love to have their music promoted.

That means no money to BMI, ASCAP, JLO or any of these rip-off organizations.
DMembersilencethepoet
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 12:03 PM
Random Thoughts from a Poet:

Title: RIAA Nazi Camps

http://www.denounce.com/riaa.html
JazzJazzmary2U
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 12:04 PM
To all new posters..welcome! Wow, Wow! what a firestorm! It does my heart good to see so many angry people doing something.. registering and posting here is a good start. There is an archive of anti Riaa posts and news stories on www.boycott-riaa.com that will bring some of the newbies up to speed. Also there are boycott-riaa stickers to purchase.. do it. Nodding Then, find the url of your representatives in Congress and WRITE 'EM!. The Billboard Magazine article realeased this morning, mind you, Billboard Mag is the "mouthpiece" of the Riaa, says that Senators favor the Riaa's position.. DON'T BELIEVE IT!! And don't forget to write them and let them know your outrage. All of this is easy to do, takes a little bit of your time, and believe me, you will feel better knowing you are finally beginning to fight for your rights.

BOYCOTT. EDUCATE. REGISTER. VOTE.
ARE YOU REGISTERED AND READY?
DMemberHolyCrow
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 12:10 PM
I think everyone's arguements are all valid, unfortunatly, all the good intentions and protest in the world won't stop these greedy over-glorified car salesman (RIAA).

Everyone, think about this: What exactly is the difference between a "music" artist and an "oil-painting" artist? We all would agree that they are both artist with talent. And since art is subjective to individual taste, it is the consumer who sets the price, NOT some over-bearing regulatory commission (everyone fear OPAA, or Oil Painting Association of America).

Additionally, whether we admit it or not, CD discs are going the way of the cassette tape. Digital music players are offering consumers the means of holding entire libraries of music in thier pocket. How can the CD platform compete? Think about how DVD has crushed VHS.

Along those lines, why do artists have to rely on huge CD/Cassete/record factories operated by companies like Sony when thier music can be sold digitally all over the world in minutes from thier Brooklyn apartment? I say, support independant artists and give artist power back to oversee thier OWN music/business affairs. Much like a highly talented glass-artist selling thier beautiful creations at a local art festival, music musicians too should be able to sell thier creations direct to the person who really appreciates it: the listener.

Let me know what you all think of this. If you don't agree with me, then I can respect that, too.
DMember2Hellwiththe...
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 12:11 PM
I've stated this before in other message board posts and I believe it to hold true even more now in the wake of this recent Industry activity; The RIAA has just shot itself in the foot in a struggle to stay afloat on a sinking ship. With the growing technology of file sharing and the internet changing the face of the music industry, this is a desperate attempt to stay alive and nothing more. Just think of all the downsizing that will occur in the Big 5 when all these efforts prove futile. All the while the RIAA won't be suffering (remember: they are lawyers). I for one think it is time for a big change in the industry. A sort of level playing field for all musicians and don't let the RIAA fool you into thinking that the artists are suffering. All the smart artists have been moving forward in the face of adversity by creating independent labels and merchandising campaigns. What the big five labels are doing now is a prime example of GREED in it's ugliest form.This is more about saving their own skins not helping the artists out.
DMemberzeitgheist
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 12:11 PM
I agree, code...this is not just about filesharing, et al...
I would to add as well, nobody would like to stomp a mudhole in cary sues' ass more than myself-but we MUST take the high road, be respectful, be legal, all that UNfun stuff. RIAA will hang itself with its own rope, no need for us to use ours
I get disheartened when I see the coverage, yet we get little or none, but folks, the fight is just beginning and all crying from the RIAA should tell us something. If they were not threatened, they would not be screaming. They are screaming because we are hurting them. Just keep on doing what we are doing. Many times grass-roots does the most damage. There are MILLIONS of us, cary CANT sue us all.
Also, to my knowledge, it remains to be seen in court whether filesharing is 'theft'.
sorry for the ramble folks......

~time flies~
DMemberdemoneyes
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 12:17 PM
the issue is that the riaa has long forgoten who gave them their money in the first place,we the fans,by buying the cd's,watching the videos,etc...
we fans pay for their salaries,the homes they live in,the cars they ride,i wonder what would it happend if the people of the united states stop's buying cd's for two weeks or more?that is nice question.
also it would be good to ask the ucla if there is something that can be done in this case......thats my opinion any way
DMembersilencethepoet
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 12:20 PM
Random thoughts from a Poet

Title: Addendum and Silence

http://www.magnetbox.com/riaa/
It takes forever to load, but once it does you can use it to verify if a recordind (record/CD/what have you) is tainted (Made by the RIAA) or not.

If it is tainted, nothing short of a massive dosage of Microwaves can cleanse it. 10 minutes on high should do it. Of course, feel free to use higher levels of radioation. When you are finished, mail the cleansed product back to the RIAA HQ and let them figure a way to dispose of it properly.

I figured since we are argueing the concept of copyright here, i'd share a bit of my own work. Please ask first if you want to copy it someplace else.
silencethepoet@hotmail.com


lay me down in the middle of the night
mother, please tell me it will be alright
before me i can see no release
laying here between the sheets

my mind wandering to and fro
my fears wandering down below
at the end of the night
is everything quite alright?

to forever, never again
i promise myself that alone i shall fend
but in myself i see not the strength
to make it through, to make it at length

i fear i shall forever know
the fears of the shadows below
consuming my solitude
feeding on my dark mood

yet when i leave far behind
the thoughts surrounding my mind
i shall be withdrawn from all my fears
and my heart will become my tears

---Silence the Poet---
DMemberdaytwo777
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 12:23 PM
I agree with the idea that artists themselves will be better off leaving their labels and selling their music direct to the public. I am an artist myself (independent) and from what other artists tell me, each sale of most band's cd's on major labels, the band recieves an average of 23 cents. That is ridiculuos. Bands make most of their money through merchandise and touring and if their smart, recording their own cd's and selling them at shows. The cost to record and produce your own music has fallen so far that there really isn't much need for the major record labels anymore. I believe they are headed the way of the Dinosaur and it can't happen soon enough. They have a stranglehold on radio stations because they dictate what songs are to be played and how many times each week, or else they won't give the radio stations any more of their music. I say let the public decided what is good and what is not. It is funny that the RIAA is continuing, I think, to shoot themselves in the foot. Everything happens for a reason
DMemberResident-Nomad
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 12:25 PM
I believe that the addition of free downloading has to form into an honor system. I am planning on, as well as encouraging others to start paying $10 directly to the artist for every CD that they download. This way, the artist gets paid for THEIR work, and the greedy bastards at the RIAA won't get a dime.

This system is good because it will keep the artists paid for their work, and encourage them to keep making more. Also, by each user giving $10 per cd to the artist, they get probably 20 times more money for each CD than the RIAA gives them. What this means is if one in twenty people who download their work pays this offering to the artist, there is no money lost, and thus the artist can keep producing music.

The other nice thing is that the mafia nazis at RIAA will go broke, and eventually a new recording industry will take over that is actually responsive to technology changes that occur, not be stuck in the stone age like the RIAA.

I encourage more of you out there to adopt this same system...atleast maybe after this crazy sue everyone campaign comes to an end.
DMemberHolyCrow
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 12:30 PM
I remember hearing on the radio a few months ago that some security council had done some sort of "terrorism assessment" and concluded that if you pirate music, you are aiding terrorism.
I totally agree with this because everyone knows that Osama bin Laden has the best cuts of the David Bowie.
DMember2Hellwiththe...
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 12:30 PM
I feel RIAA really showed it's true colors when they decided to sue Used CD Dealers into getting a piece of the profit they were making. By saying that the consumer never really owns a piece of recorded material but more or less rents it for life. That is absurd. When I buy an automobile and decide to sell it to someone else, the Auto companies don't call me and ask for a percentage of the sale I just made.
Instead of working and growing with the new technology, RIAA has chosen to fight the very essence of their own exsistence - the consumer. How rediculous is that? A revolution has begun my friends and we out number them by the millions!
Advancedcaptdunsel
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 12:38 PM
I can't stand it anymore. I'm not a diplomat, I'm not a lawyer, I'm not a politician and I don't know what Jesus would do. Having grown up in the wild wild west, smack dab in he middle of "Billy the Kid" country, I only learned one way to deal with assholes.

Read this carefully, I'm not kidding. I am 100% serious.. cary "the Boy named sue" sheman, I challenge you to a fight. Let's get in the ring and settle this like men. 3 rounds, you and me, no bullshit. You say you are not up for the challenge? Ok pick your surrogate, mitch braincheese, orrin hatch, howard berman, senator conyers, that other fool who you guys sent to Taiwan. I don't care. Only two conditions,

1. since I'm not a pro you can't pick a pro (or even a lifetime amateur)to fight for you. Any of your bought and paid for congressmen are acceptable as is the spineless excuse for a human being who would serve a law suit to a 12 year old girl.

2. If I lose I will delete all my p2p apps and any files I have that you feel are questionable from my computer forever. If I win you drop ALL lawsuits against p2p users and swear never to sue anyone else for anything related to p2p downloading/uploading etc.

pretty fair deal. I'm waiting, coward.
DMembersafarikat
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 1:34 PM
I can't believe the RIAA claiming that people who download music is the cause of the music industry losing money. Think about it. Since 9-11-01 many companies have lost money. They have delt with in other ways. Not by suing the only people who support them (the costomers). What exactly are they trying to prove anyway? Growing up I recorded music off of my radio and recorded movies off of HBO. What difference does it make. People are still buying CDs. They are not losing as much money as other companies. Look at the airline industries. They are losing thier ass. Are they going to sue us too? I don't think so. So give us a break will ya RIAA. Were not killing anyone. We are only doing what comes naturally (getting what we can for free). Can you blame us!! Right now I would donate money to the people you have sued (if I knew their address) before I would buy another CD. Funny! If everone against the RIAA donated money to everyone they sued the people they sued would probably make money.
DMemberkimibobo88
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 1:36 PM
Hi this is the first message I have posted and I have read all of the other replies I so totally agree with all of you. Now I am not such a computer savvy kind of person but I do occasionally download music but not much because I only have a dial-up connection however I feel like it is worng what the RIAA is doing because they are not doing anything but hurting the artist by making the consumer's angery and making them not want to buy there cd's so how can they be helping them with the stoppinng of file-sharing? I am going to do my best in the fight agianst this.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 1:49 PM
kimibobo88- welcome and a big smile!
the future lies in the hands of an activated consumer/citizen base. All the money for these crooked RIAA people comes from us. We're closing the spigot!
~code
DMemberKernalPanic
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 2:01 PM
i got a better idea. Artists tell us how much you make per song. what exactly are your royalties? if i had a list and how much it is i'll go through my collection and start writing checks but i am NOT going to the store and buy an cds. EVER.
DMemberfialswopper
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 2:33 PM
hi everybody. have been reading posts for a couple of weeks. great job. i agree with what most of you are saying. following up on the post by the person who mentioned The Dead...the Dead used to allow fans to bootleg their shows and encouraged them to trade the recordings with others.
DMemberAnti-RIAA
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 2:46 PM
I just thought of something. I bet that the RIAA scum made that little girl say she felt bad about hurting the artists as part of her settlement.

Also, if the artists royalties are really as low as you guys say I will gladly send them double what they are getting now which is like what, .25?
DMemberred5
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 2:55 PM
In most countries (except the US) file sharing, cd copying and shit is perfectly legal. Maybe the RIAA needs to shut up and disband once and for all...
DMemberfialswopper
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 2:57 PM
i agree KernalPanic. if lars(i hate napster)ulrich wants a royalty check from me he can have it.
DMembertaddzilla
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 3:08 PM
Look an article from the NY times that quotes a record exec from V2 Records that says it is NOT all the fault of file sharing.

Are the blinders coming off? Has the fog cleared just a bit?

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/09/technology/09SONG.html?ex=1063684800&en=e7df5908707046f9&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
DMembergamemaker
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 3:08 PM
I don't like bullies. I don't know what else to call it when someone sues a poor 12-year-old girl.

I have never downloaded music, I am a 41 year old family man. I'm comfortable with computers and technology but always bought my music on CDs.

I'm not going to start downloading, but I will also never again buy a RIAA-affiliated CD or product.

The newspapers say they are proud of their first "victory". I hope they enjoy it. This day will eventually be remembered as the final nail in the RIAA coffin. They will never recover from their own cowardly actions.
DMemberSkatCat
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 3:11 PM
nyer82 that's a good article.

Janis Ian,a musician in the industry, writes a great article about the RIAA here...

www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html
DMemberSkatCat
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 3:21 PM
To get her article go to janisian.com then click on "articles by Janis" then on next page click on " The Internet Debacle- An Alternative View".

Sorry about that,I tried to post the full link but it got cut short.
DMemberRipandburn
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 3:31 PM
Quite simple folks, The accused are more than likley sharing files and no tpaying...That's all it is about, money. The lawsuit is not gonna change the letter of he law...

Predictions:
261 lawsuits
261 settlements.
Lot's of media for the RIAA's cause.
Me downloading songs knowing full well, that out of 60 million swappers, they aint gonna hit me...
Do you folks realize yu have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than getting pinched by the RIAA...Wake up......
DMemberboycottearth
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 3:46 PM
Yeah, this article is so right... Piracy is the future. (not a joke)
DMemberEmenius
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 4:27 PM
It's not the fact that they're one of millions who the RIAA could sue, it's the fact that they're one at all that the RIAA can sue. It's a simple scare tactic that was worked before for every person or company hell-bent on getting every possible dime out of the people.
DMemberdeardeadly
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 4:38 PM
Downloaders need to act responisbily. If you steal, you may get sued. Simple as that. If you'd like to boycott the RIAA, fine, you do that. Don't buy major label artists. But to boycott by stealing is fucked. There are alternatives to major label music. If there were no alternatives, anti-RIAA would stand on more rational ground. (Everybody says "Support local/indie musicians" but who's really doing it?)
DMemberdeardeadly
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 4:45 PM
P.S. People need to quit worrying about the shitty contracts the artists got themselves into. You don't understand the first damn thing about contract law. Nor do you understand the first damn thing about the music business. Everybody takes the comments of disgruntled artists as the Bible. Bad move. (Besides, how many bands have been too drunk or too high to fulfil their parts of the contracts in good faith? Labels screw bands, and bands screw them right back. It goes both ways.)

If you like the music, buy it. If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you want to support an artist, go to a concert and buy a T-Shirt or CD. Don't steal by downloading. It's only going to postpone a workable pay-for-download service that suits everybody.
DMemberStillNotBlac...
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 5:10 PM
As stated by so many people, I would pay for the downloading if the systems were refined and as unrestrictive as the free services. To date though, the music industry has piled up sites that restrict what you can do with each track that you download (media rights protection software which disallows the tranfer of MP3 files from computer - to - conputer or computer to disk). At that, the sites they have opened are a farse! If no one has noticed, the prices for individual songs can add up to what one would pay for a NEW CD straight off of the store shelves (.99 per copy times 15 songs = $14.85 (or what one would expect to pay at say Wal*Mart or Tower Records). This is no business model. Also, the artists are still being ripped off no matter where you buy your music (please see the equation in the section "The Truth" on this site and do the math yourself, also download the information in PDF format on this site which give the reader the extent of the ROYALTIES that the ARTISTS ARE NOT RECIEVEING.). Also, one should consider the comments of Mrs, Janis Ian whom wrote a very educated article which I do believe is linked to through this site, reader take note that she HAS BEEN A RECORDING ARTIST FOR OVER 30 YEARS!
DMemberfucary
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 5:10 PM
You won't get sued if they can't see your shared folder, plain and simple. The newer version of Kazaa (I prefer Kazaa Lite, myself) allows you to hide the contents of your shared folder from other users. People can still download from you, they just can't snoop at the contents of your shared folder which is exactly what they need to do to gather evidence required for a subpoena.
DMemberStillNotBlac...
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 5:19 PM
deardeadly:

Why have you even ventured here to Boycott-RIAA.com if your are so adamant about your beliefs in the true thieves and pirates of the music industry (the RIAA). I do understand fully about contract law! I mat not be a law student or lawyer, but after being in one business or another for most of my life, I KNOW WHAT AN UNFAIR CONTRACT LOOKS LIKE! The music industry in general, like the motion picture industry of 50 years ago is a RACKET (I do believe that the RICO Act applies to racketeering such as what the music industry and thier big 5 music labels have done for more than 75 years). And you must also wonder, since you obviously have not read much of the facts yourself, what else they have not been telling the public....Just think, they say that downloading has "killed the neighborhood record store", untrue, these stores were killed by the discounts given to volume dealing chain stores (such as Wal*Mart and Tower Records) which can afford massive amounts of CD's and other Entertainment Media at one sitting, on the converse your neighborhood record store may have one copy of a particular CD or other entertainment media in the place (because that is all they can afford to carry). Also, there are some CD's or Tapes that just cannot be found any longer because they are so old that the industry (the big 5 record labels) have blacklisted the title or band. Ever had that happen?
DMemberfirethunder
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 5:53 PM
Cary Sue was just interviewed on Fox News, and the guy interviewing him (John Gibson) laughed him out of the segment.

Just sayin' is all.
DMemberRIAABoycott
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 6:10 PM
Weeeeel Sience I....Dislike is a weak word the RIAA and i am a strong visionary in wiston churchills words its time for SCREW THE RIAA QUOTES!!


Even though large tracts of Music and many old and famous sharers have fallen or may fall into the grip of the RIAA and all the odious apparatus of RIAA rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end, we shall fight online, we shall fight in cyberspace and in real life, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the downloads, we shall defend our Cause, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the internet, we shall fight in the courts, we shall spam them crash them,and we will hack them trash them, we shall fight in the Towns and Citys; we shall NEVER surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Cause or a large part of it were sued and starving, then our Comerads beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the firewalls of today, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the RIAA, with all its power and might, steps forth and surrenders.

More to come-
DMemberP2PUSER
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 6:49 PM
This debate about the RIAA and how they are evil Nazis who sue decent hard working Americans is all well and good. BUT WHAT ABOUT GETTING SOME HIGH-PROFILE PRO BONO LEGAL HELP FOR THE POOR PEOPLE GETTING SUED!! We need to hear from some lawyers or consumer watchdogs or the ACLU or something to STOP THIS MADNESS IN IT'S TRACKS!! How about filing a class action counter suit against the RIAA. Who has any ideas on this or has some high level contacts that can help us?? Someone call RALPH NADER FOR GODSAKE!!
DMemberchurchkey
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 6:59 PM
Cary Sue did not fare so well on Fox. It was hilarious when Gibson called him the Big Bad Wolf.

As I type, NBC nightly news is broadcasting another puff piece about downloading being theft, and that it's kids doing it, and parents will be held responsible....yeah yeah yeah...NBC wake up! This is not the whole story!
DMemberRingdemBells
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 7:02 PM
You file-stealing pirates ought to be ashamed of yourselves!

Just think of all the artists you're stealing food (and drugs?) from.

You're robbing great musicians, singers and song writers like Jim Morrison, Jimmy Hendrix, Mama Cass, Karen Carpenter, Kurt Cobain, Elvis Presley, Janis Joplin, John Lennon..........
DMemberRingdemBells
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 7:04 PM
Sorry for the double post, but just one more comment...am I missing something or are the so-called "artists" being notoriously silent on this round of the file-sharing battle? Seems like quite a few (Foo Fighters for one) were more vocal about this issue when Napster was being rear-ended....?
DMemberIsCaRiOtMyJuDaS
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 7:38 PM
i think deardeadly is really cary-SUE...mmm dear deadly?
DMemberIsCaRiOtMyJuDaS
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 7:48 PM
oh, and ps deardeadly I AM. that is, supporting my indie. i myself am an indie and i know first hand about the riaa's tactics. and the fact is, they're crooks. unless you are metallica(uh oh, might get sued by metallica for typing "metallica" w/out permission) or madona (uh oh, shiver) most artists secretly AGREE with this. and would do so publicly if they wern't afraid for their carrears (blacklisted) or being brainwashed by their record lables. grow up!
iscariot~
DMemberIsCaRiOtMyJuDaS
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 8:23 PM
i think i busted ol deardeadly...
DMemberSeikatsu
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 9:11 PM
This boycott CANNOT just stop at boycotting the record labels.
Sony and others like it, are conglomerates. I will never buy a Sony: VCR, DVD player, MP3 player, Cd player, computer, etc., etc, even *chuckle* Blank Cd's.
DMemberIsCaRiOtMyJuDaS
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 9:46 PM
you're right, seik. but it still sucks...i prefer sony...
Intermediatesurfside6
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 10:29 PM
You know if I was one of the big 5 the first thing I would do is begin only offering music in the MP4 format. I would discontinue CD's, instead you could go to a Tower records and select what you want and burn the disk right there. I would then offer ALL of my library to the public through P2P in the MP4 format. All the files would have digital keys that would enable the user to pay per download or get a blanket download license. The licenses would be cheap, price TBD.

Finally, I would get someone like Sony or whomever to create a device that would be able to play anything in the library at any time (music on demand), rather like a cross between an ipod and XM satellite reciever. I could charge a a price for the device and a subscription fee. Just my 2 cents worth.
DMemberILUVELPEES
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:05 PM
Hey that 800 number really works. A lady answered after 2 rings (she said "Recording Industry"). But there were no lying sleazebags available when I called I guess because she hung up after I asked for one of them.
DMemberILUVELPEES
Date: September 10, 2003 @ 11:07 PM
Maybe I'll call again tomorrow and one will be available!!!
DMemberJazon-Bladen
Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:23 AM
I find it ironic how the writer of that USAToday column said that we are, "stealing money from the very artists they love, and who — except for the superstars — are not rich enough to miss the income," and yet skipped the fact that the Recording Industry steals more money than file-sharing ever could and ever will. Nobody wants to recognize that fact so we're going to have it throw it in their faces until they do.
DMembersvengali
Date: September 11, 2003 @ 10:26 AM
Additionally, whether we admit it or not, CD discs are going the way of the cassette tape. Digital music players are offering consumers the means of holding entire libraries of music in thier pocket. How can the CD platform compete? Think about how DVD has crushed VHS.

True enough holycrow....and the RIAA clings to its outdated business model that supports these formats like a baby to a pacifier....technology evolves from the LP to 8 tracks to cassettes to CDs + mini discs to digital storage units....it is in continual change


Advancedgoldenpi
Date: September 11, 2003 @ 11:32 AM
CDs are going to be around for some time yet. The labels are showing no intrest in SACD or DVD-audio as a replacement (surprising, considering their determination to use protected CDs). Music cannot be sold easily as files. The DRM systems are a compatability disaster. For the forseeable future, the CD is going to remain almost the only format for commercial music. Of course, every customer with a computer will probably rip the CD as soon as they buy it so they can keep all their music on one hard drive and copy it into their portable :-) (Smile)

Ive seen the various TV programs on the evils of piracy. Funny, but for really inaccurate reporting watch any program with "hacker" in the title :-) (Smile)
DMemberiostreamh
Date: September 11, 2003 @ 11:32 AM
SkatKat... GREAT ARTICLE by Janis Ian..More ppl need to take a look at this one.. This article needs to go to CNN.. oops, they're owned by Aol/Time/Warner.. owned by RIAA.. dammit! Hell, I'll post it here and you guys send it to people who are actually believing the propaganda that the RIAA is putting forth: Enjoy!

Article from www.janisian.com

THE INTERNET DEBACLE - AN ALTERNATIVE VIEW

Originally written for Performing Songwriter Magazine, May 2002

* Shortly after this article was turned in, Michael Greene resigned as president of NARAS.

Read Janis' follow up to this article: FALLOUT - a follow up to The Internet Debacle


"The Internet, and downloading, are here to stay... Anyone who thinks otherwise should prepare themselves to end up on the slagheap of history." (Janis Ian during a live European radio interview, 9-1-98) (Cool) *Please see author's note at end!

When I research an article, I normally send 30 or so emails to friends and acquaintances asking for opinions and anecdotes. I usually receive 10-20 in reply. But not so on this subject!

I sent 36 emails requesting opinions and facts on free music downloading from the Net. I stated that I planned to adopt the viewpoint of devil's advocate: free Internet downloads are good for the music industry and its artists.

I've received, to date, over 300 replies, every single one from someone legitimately "in the music business."

What's more interesting than the emails are the phone calls. I don't know anyone at NARAS (home of the Grammy Awards), and I know Hilary Rosen (head of rhe Recording Industry Association of America, or RIAA) only vaguely. Yet within 24 hours of sending my original email, I'd received two messages from Rosen and four from NARAS requesting that I call to "discuss the article."

Huh. Didn't know I was that widely read.

Ms. Rosen, to be fair, stressed that she was only interested in presenting RIAA's side of the issue, and was kind enough to send me a fair amount of statistics and documentation, including a number of focus group studies RIAA had run on the matter.

However, the problem with focus groups is the same problem anthropologists have when studying peoples in the field - the moment the anthropologist's presence is known, everything changes. Hundreds of scientific studies have shown that any experimental group wants to please the examiner. For focus groups, this is particularly true. Coffee and donuts are the least of the pay-offs.

The NARAS people were a bit more pushy. They told me downloads were "destroying sales", "ruining the music industry", and "costing you money".

Costing me money? I don't pretend to be an expert on intellectual property law, but I do know one thing. If a music industry executive claims I should agree with their agenda because it will make me more money, I put my hand on my wallet…and check it after they leave, just to make sure nothing's missing.

Am I suspicious of all this hysteria? You bet. Do I think the issue has been badly handled? Absolutely. Am I concerned about losing friends, opportunities, my 10th Grammy nomination by publishing this article? Yeah. I am. But sometimes things are just wrong, and when they're that wrong, they have to be addressed.

The premise of all this ballyhoo is that the industry (and its artists) are being harmed by free downloading.

Nonsense. Let's take it from my personal experience. My site (www.janisian.com ) gets an average of 75,000 hits a year. Not bad for someone whose last hit record was in 1975. When Napster was running full-tilt, we received about 100 hits a month from people who'd downloaded Society's Child or At Seventeen for free, then decided they wanted more information. Of those 100 people (and these are only the ones who let us know how they'd found the site), 15 bought CDs. Not huge sales, right? No record company is interested in 180 extra sales a year. But… that translates into $2700, which is a lot of money in my book. And that doesn't include the ones who bought the CDs in stores, or who came to my shows.

Or take author Mercedes Lackey, who occupies entire shelves in stores and libraries. As she said herself: "For the past ten years, my three "Arrows" books, which were published by DAW about 15 years ago, have been generating a nice, steady royalty check per pay-period each. A reasonable amount, for fifteen-year-old books. However... I just got the first half of my DAW royalties...And suddenly, out of nowhere, each Arrows book has paid me three times the normal amount!...And because those books have never been out of print, and have always been promoted along with the rest of the backlist, the only significant change during that pay-period was something that happened over at Baen, one of my other publishers. That was when I had my co-author Eric Flint put the first of my Baen books on the Baen Free Library site. Because I have significantly more books with DAW than with Baen, the increases showed up at DAW first. There's an increase in all of the books on that statement, actually, and what it looks like is what I'd expect to happen if a steady line of people who'd never read my stuff encountered it on the Free Library - a certain percentage of them liked it, and started to work through my backlist, beginning with the earliest books published. The really interesting thing is, of course, that these aren't Baen books, they're DAW---another publisher---so it's 'name loyalty' rather than 'brand loyalty.' I'll tell you what, I'm sold. Free works."

I've found that to be true myself; every time we make a few songs available on my website, sales of all the CDs go up. A lot.

And I don't know about you, but as an artist with an in-print record catalogue that dates back to 1965, I'd be thrilled to see sales on my old catalogue rise.

Now, RIAA and NARAS, as well as most of the entrenched music industry, are arguing that free downloads hurt sales. (More than hurt - they're saying it's destroying the industry.)

Alas, the music industry needs no outside help to destroy itself. We're doing a very adequate job of that on our own, thank you.

Here are a few statements from the RIAA's website:

"Analysts report that just one of the many peer-to-peer systems in operation is responsible for over 1.8 billion unauthorized downloads per month". (Hilary B. Rosen letter to the Honorable Rick Boucher, Congressman, February 28, 2002)
"Sales of blank CD-R discs have…grown nearly 2 ˝ times in the last two years…if just half the blank discs sold in 2001 were used to copy music, the number of burned CDs worldwide is about the same as the number of CDs sold at retail." (Hilary B. Rosen letter to the Honorable Rick Boucher, Congressman, February 28, 2002)
"Music sales are already suffering from the impact…in the United States, sales decreased by more than 10% in 2001."(Hilary B. Rosen letter to the Honorable Rick Boucher, Congressman, February 28, 2002)
"In a recent survey of music consumers, 23%…said they are not buying more music because they are downloading or copying their music for free."(Hilary B. Rosen letter to the Honorable Rick Boucher, Congressman, February 28, 2002)
Let's take these points one by one, but before that, let me remind you of something: the music industry had exactly the same response to the advent of reel-to-reel home tape recorders, cassettes, DATs, minidiscs, VHS, BETA, music videos ("Why buy the record when you can tape it?"), MTV, and a host of other technological advances designed to make the consumer's life easier and better. I know because I was there.

The only reason they didn't react that way publicly to the advent of CDs was because they believed CD's were uncopyable. I was told this personally by a former head of Sony marketing, when they asked me to license Between the Lines in CD format at a reduced royalty rate. ("Because it's a brand new technology.")

Who's to say that any of those people would have bought the CD's if the songs weren't available for free? I can't find a single study on this, one where a reputable surveyor such as Gallup actually asks people that question. I think no one's run one because everyone is afraid of the truth - most of the downloads are people who want to try an artist out, or who can't find the music in print.
And if a percentage of that 1.8 billion is because people are downloading a current hit by Britney or In Sync, who's to say it really hurt their sales? Soft statistics are easily manipulated. How many of those people went out and bought an album that had been over-played at radio for months, just because they downloaded a portion of it?
Sales of blank CDs have grown? You bet. I bought a new Vaio in December (ironically enough, made by Sony), and now back up all my files onto CD. I go through 7-15 CD's a week that way, or about 500 a year. Most new PC's come with XP, which makes backing up to CD painless; how many people are doing what I'm doing? Additionally, when I buy a new CD, I make a copy for my car, a copy for upstairs, and a copy for my partner. That's three blank discs per CD. So I alone account for around 750 blank CDs yearly.
I'm sure the sales decrease had nothing to do with the economy's decrease, or a steady downward spiral in the music industry, or the garbage being pushed by record companies. Aren't you? There were 32,000 new titles released in this country in 2001, and that's not including re-issues, DIY's , or smaller labels that don't report to SoundScan. Our "Unreleased" series, which we haven't bothered SoundScanning, sold 6,000+ copies last year. A conservative estimate would place the number of "newly available" CD's per year at 100,000. That's an awful lot of releases for an industry that's being destroyed. And to make matters worse, we hear music everywhere, whether we want to or not; stores, amusement parks, highway rest stops. The original concept of Muzak (to be played in elevators so quietly that its soothing effect would be subliminal) has run amok. Why buy records when you can learn the entire Top 40 just by going shopping for groceries?
Which music consumers? College kids who can't afford to buy 10 new CDs a month, but want to hear their favorite groups? When I bought my nephews a new Backstreet Boys CD, I asked why they hadn't downloaded it instead. They patiently explained to their senile aunt that the download wouldn't give them the cool artwork, and more important, the video they could see only on the CD.
Realistically, why do most people download music? To hear new music, or records that have been deleted and are no longer available for purchase. Not to avoid paying $5 at the local used CD store, or taping it off the radio, but to hear music they can't find anywhere else. Face it - most people can't afford to spend $15.99 to experiment. That's why listening booths (which labels fought against, too) are such a success.

You can't hear new music on radio these days; I live in Nashville, "Music City USA", and we have exactly one station willing to play a non-top-40 format. On a clear day, I can even tune it in. The situation's not much better in Los Angeles or New York. College stations are sometimes bolder, but their wattage is so low that most of us can't get them.

One other major point: in the hysteria of the moment, everyone is forgetting the main way an artist becomes successful - exposure. Without exposure, no one comes to shows, no one buys CDs, no one enables you to earn a living doing what you love. Again, from personal experience: in 37 years as a recording artist, I've created 25+ albums for major labels, and I've never once received a royalty check that didn't show I owed them money. So I make the bulk of my living from live touring, playing for 80-1500 people a night, doing my own show. I spend hours each week doing press, writing articles, making sure my website tour information is up to date. Why? Because all of that gives me exposure to an audience that might not come otherwise. So when someone writes and tells me they came to my show because they'd downloaded a song and gotten curious, I am thrilled!

Who gets hurt by free downloads? Save a handful of super-successes like Celine Dion, none of us. We only get helped.

But not to hear Congress tell it. Senator Fritz Hollings, chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee studying this, said "When Congress sits idly by in the face of these [file-sharing] activities, we essentially sanction the Internet as a haven for thievery", then went on to charge "over 10 million people" with stealing. [Steven Levy, Newsweek 3/11/02]. That's what we think of consumers - they're thieves, out to get something for nothing.

Baloney. Most consumers have no problem paying for entertainment. One has only to look at the success of Fictionwise.com and the few other websites offering books and music at reasonable prices to understand that. If the music industry had a shred of sense, they'd have addressed this problem seven years ago, when people like Michael Camp were trying to obtain legitimate licenses for music online. Instead, the industry-wide attitude was "It'll go away". That's the same attitude CBS Records had about rock 'n' roll when Mitch Miller was head of A&R. (And you wondered why they passed on The Beatles and The Rolling Stones.)

I don't blame the RIAA for Holling's attitude. They are, after all, the Recording Industry Association of America, formed so the labels would have a lobbying group in Washington. (In other words, they're permitted to make contributions to politicians and their parties.) But given that our industry's success is based on communication, the industry response to the Internet has been abysmal. Statements like the one above do nothing to help the cause.

Of course, communication has always been the artist's job, not the executives. That's why it's so scary when people like current NARAS president Michael Greene begin using shows like the Grammy Awards to drive their point home.

Grammy viewership hit a six-year low in 2002. Personally, I found the program so scintillating that it made me long for Rob Lowe dancing with Snow White, which at least was so bad that it was entertaining. Moves like the ridiculous Elton John-Eminem duet did little to make people want to watch again the next year. And we're not going to go into the Los Angeles Times' Pulitzer Prize-winning series on Greene and NARAS, where they pointed out that MusiCares has spent less than 10% of its revenue on disbursing emergency funds for people in the music industry (its primary purpose), or that Greene recorded his own album, pitched it to record executives while discussing Grammy business, then negotiated a $250,000 contract with Mercury Records for it (later withdrawn after the public flap). Or that NARAS quietly paid out at least $650,000 to settle a sexual harassment suit against him, a portion of which the non-profit Academy paid. Or that he's paid two million dollars a year, along with "perks" like his million-dollar country club membership and Mercedes. (Though it does make one wonder when he last entered a record store and bought something with his own hard-earned money.)

Let's just note that in his speech he told the viewing audience that NARAS and RIAA were, in large part, taking their stance to protect artists. He hired three teenagers to spend a couple of days doing nothing but downloading, and they managed to download "6,000 songs". Come on. For free "front-row seats" at the Grammys and an appearance on national TV, I'd download twice that amount! But…who's got time to download that many songs? Does Greene really think people out there are spending twelve hours a day downloading our music? If they are, they must be starving to death, because they're not making a living or going to school. How many of us can afford a T-1 line?

This sort of thing is indicative of the way statistics and information are being tossed around. It's dreadful to think that consumers are being asked to take responsibility for the industry's problems, which have been around far longer than the Internet. It's even worse to think that the consumer is being told they are charged with protecting us, the artists, when our own industry squanders the dollars we earn on waste and personal vendettas.

Greene went on to say that "Many of the nominees here tonight, especially the new, less-established artists, are in immediate danger of being marginalized out of our business." Right. Any "new" artist who manages to make the Grammys has millions of dollars in record company money behind them. The "real" new artists aren't people you're going to see on national TV, or hear on most radio. They're people you'll hear because someone gave you a disc, or they opened at a show you attended, or were lucky enough to be featured on NPR or another program still open to playing records that aren't already hits.

As to artists being "marginalized out of our business," the only people being marginalized out are the employees of our Enron-minded record companies, who are being fired in droves because the higher-ups are incompetent.

And it's difficult to convince an educated audience that artists and record labels are about to go down the drain because they, the consumer, are downloading music. Particularly when they're paying $50-$125 apiece for concert tickets, and $15.99 for a new CD they know costs less than a couple of dollars to manufacture and distribute.

I suspect Greene thinks of downloaders as the equivalent of an old-style television drug dealer, lurking next to playgrounds, wearing big coats and whipping them open for wide-eyed children who then purchase black market CD's at generous prices.

What's the new industry byword? Encryption. They're going to make sure no one can copy CDs, even for themselves, or download them for free. Brilliant, except that it flouts previous court decisions about blank cassettes, blank videotapes, etc. And it pisses people off.

How many of you know that many car makers are now manufacturing all their CD players to also play DVD's? or that part of the encryption record companies are using doesn't allow your store-bought CD to be played on a DVD player, because that's the same technology as your computer? And if you've had trouble playing your own self-recorded copy of O Brother Where Art Thou in the car, it's because of this lunacy.

The industry's answer is to put on the label: "This audio CD is protected against unauthorized copying. It is designed to play in standard audio CD players and computers running Windows O/S; however, playback problems may be experienced. If you experience such problems, return this disc for a refund."

Now I ask you. After three or four experiences like that, shlepping to the store to buy it, then shlepping back to return it (and you still don't have your music), who's going to bother buying CD's?

The industry has been complaining for years about the stranglehold the middle-man has on their dollars, yet they wish to do nothing to offend those middle-men. (BMG has a strict policy for artists buying their own CDs to sell at concerts - $11 per CD. They know very well that most of us lose money if we have to pay that much; the point is to keep the big record stores happy by ensuring sales go to them. What actually happens is no sales to us or the stores.) NARAS and RIAA are moaning about the little mom & pop stores being shoved out of business; no one worked harder to shove them out than our own industry, which greeted every new Tower or mega-music store with glee, and offered steep discounts to Target and WalMart et al for stocking CDs. The Internet has zero to do with store closings and lowered sales.

And for those of us with major label contracts who want some of our music available for free downloading… well, the record companies own our masters, our outtakes, even our demos, and they won't allow it. Furthermore, they own our voices for the duration of the contract, so we can't even post a live track for downloading!

If you think about it, the music industry should be rejoicing at this new technological advance! Here's a fool-proof way to deliver music to millions who might otherwise never purchase a CD in a store. The cross-marketing opportunities are unbelievable. It's instantaneous, costs are minimal, shipping non-existant…a staggering vehicle for higher earnings and lower costs. Instead, they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off, bleeding on everyone and making no sense. As an alternative to encrypting everything, and tying up money for years (potentially decades) fighting consumer suits demanding their first amendment rights be protected (which have always gone to the consumer, as witness the availability of blank and unencrypted VHS tapes and casettes), why not take a tip from book publishers and writers?

Baen Free Library is one success story. SFWA is another. The SFWA site is one of the best out there for hands-on advice to writers, featuring in depth articles about everything from agent and publisher scams, to a continuously updated series of reports on various intellectual property issues. More important, many of the science fiction writers it represents have been heavily involved in the Internet since its inception. Each year, when the science fiction community votes for the Hugo and Nebula Awards (their equivalent of the Grammys), most of the works nominated are put on the site in their entirety, allowing voters and non-voters the opportunity to peruse them. Free. If you are a member or associate (at a nominal fee), you have access to even more works. The site is also full of links to members' own web pages and on-line stories, even when they aren't nominated for anything. Reading this material, again for free, allows browsers to figure out which writers they want to find more of - and buy their books. Wouldn't it be nice if all the records nominated for awards each year were available for free downloading, even if it were only the winners? People who hadn't bought the albums might actually listen to the singles, then go out and purchase the records.

I have no objection to Greene et al trying to protect the record labels, who are the ones fomenting this hysteria. RIAA is funded by them. NARAS is supported by them. However, I object violently to the pretense that they are in any way doing this for our benefit. If they really wanted to do something for the great majority of artists, who eke out a living against all odds, they could tackle some of the real issues facing us:

The normal industry contract is for seven albums, with no end date, which would be considered at best indentured servitude (and at worst slavery) in any other business. In fact, it would be illegal.
A label can shelve your project, then extend your contract by one more album because what you turned in was "commercially or artistically unacceptable". They alone determine that criteria.
Singer-songwriters have to accept the "Controlled Composition Clause" (which dictates that they'll be paid only 75% of the rates set by Congress in publishing royalties) for any major or subsidiary label recording contract, or lose the contract. Simply put, the clause demanded by the labels provides that a) if you write your own songs, you will only be paid 3/4 of what Congress has told the record companies they must pay you, and b) if you co-write, you will use your "best efforts" to ensure that other songwriters accept the 75% rate as well. If they refuse, you must agree to make up the difference out of your share.
Congressionally set writer/publisher royalties have risen from their 1960's high (2 cents per side) to a munificent 8 cents.
Many of us began in the 50's and 60's; our records are still in release, and we're still being paid royalty rates of 2% (if anything) on them.
If we're not songwriters, and not hugely successful commercially (as in platinum-plus), we don't make a dime off our recordings. Recording industry accounting procedures are right up there with films.
Worse yet, when records go out-of-print, we don't get them back! We can't even take them to another company. Careers have been deliberately killed in this manner, with the record company refusing to release product or allow the artist to take it somewhere else.
And because a record label "owns" your voice for the duration of the contract, you can't go somewhere else and re-record those same songs they turned down.
And because of the re-record provision, even after your contract is over, you can't record those songs for someone else for years, and sometimes decades.
Last but not least, America is the only country I am aware of that pays no live performance royalties to songwriters. In Europe, Japan, Australia, when you finish a show, you turn your set list in to the promoter, who files it with the appropriate organization, and then pays a small royalty per song to the writer. It costs the singer nothing, the rates are based on venue size, and it ensures that writers whose songs no longer get airplay, but are still performed widely, can continue receiving the benefit from those songs.
Additionally, we should be speaking up, and Congress should be listening. At this point they're only hearing from multi-platinum acts. What about someone like Ani Difranco, one of the most trusted voices in college entertainment today? What about those of us who live most of our lives outside the big corporate system, and who might have very different views on the subject?

There is zero evidence that material available for free online downloading is financially harming anyone. In fact, most of the hard evidence is to the contrary.

Greene and the RIAA are correct in one thing - these are times of great change in our industry. But at a time when there are arguably only four record labels left in America (Sony, AOL/Time/Warner, Universal, BMG - and where is the RICO act when we need it?)… when entire genres are glorifying the gangster mentality and losing their biggest voices to violence…when executives change positions as often as Zsa Zsa Gabor changed clothes, and "A&R" has become a euphemism for "Absent & Redundant"… well, we have other things to worry about.

It's absurd for us, as artists, to sanction - or countenance - the shutting down of something like this. It's sheer stupidity to rejoice at the Napster decision. Short-sighted, and ignorant.

Free exposure is practically a thing of the past for entertainers. Getting your record played at radio costs more money than most of us dream of ever earning. Free downloading gives a chance to every do-it-yourselfer out there. Every act that can't get signed to a major, for whatever reason, can reach literally millions of new listeners, enticing them to buy the CD and come to the concerts. Where else can a new act, or one that doesn't have a label deal, get that kind of exposure?

Please note that I am not advocating indiscriminate downloading without the artist's permission. I am not saying copyrights are meaningless. I am objecting to the RIAA spin that they are doing this to protect "the artists", and make us more money. I am annoyed that so many records I once owned are out of print, and the only place I could find them was Napster. Most of all, I'd like to see an end to the hysteria that causes a group like RIAA to spend over 45 million dollars in 2001 lobbying "on our behalf", when every record company out there is complaining that they have no money.

We'll turn into Microsoft if we're not careful, folks, insisting that any household wanting an extra copy for the car, the kids, or the portable CD player, has to go out and "license" multiple copies.

As artists, we have the ear of the masses. We have the trust of the masses. By speaking out in our concerts and in the press, we can do a great deal to damp this hysteria, and put the blame for the sad state of our industry right back where it belongs - in the laps of record companies, radio programmers, and our own apparent inability to organize ourselves in order to better our own lives - and those of our fans. If we don't take the reins, no one will.

Sources:
Baenbooks.com, BMG Records, Chicago Tribune, CNN.com, Congressional Record, Eonline.com, Grammy.com, LATimes.com, Newsweek, Radiocrow.com, RIAA.org, personal communications
* for more information on the Free Library, go to www.baen.com/library .


Read Janis' follow up to this article: FALLOUT - a follow up to The Internet Debacle

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DMember20dollarplastic
Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:12 PM
What i see in the future:

Instead of going to Best Buy, or Walmart, or even online people will have the option to purchase singles. I think that should be able to walk in, buy a blank cd, pick out the songs that they want to hear by "sampling" them at the store or online and make their own mix. This could be done for as little as 25 cents per song, which should go directly to the artists. In one of the posts i read that they are only making pennies per album right now, i am pretty sure that no artist would disagree with this aproach. It could be done online as well from a "pay-site" the very same way. This would save consumers from spending $20 on a 1 hit wonder and they could blend artists together to great a cd that they could appreciate entirely. The only problem that i could see with this method would be posibly sacrificing sound quality. I am glad that many people are anti-riaa as am i, but we need to think of solutions instead of just protesting.
DMembersvengali
Date: September 11, 2003 @ 1:40 PM
good grief!!!:) (Smile) this is everything that i think aand knew about the industry as a whole....absolutely a good post, just need to get the word out
DMembermudpuppy55
Date: September 11, 2003 @ 2:07 PM
You can send an email to webmaster@riaa.com and tell them your feelings. I already have enough music downloaded to last me the rest of my life. Most of the new stuff sounds alike. I like the classic stuff when artists could create without record company pressure to fit a niche. I hope the boycott works and these idiots learn a lesson the hard way. Good luck to us all.
DMemberTrekkieGirl
Date: September 11, 2003 @ 3:13 PM
Just a minute, how exactly do they KNOW we are downloading music? Data Protection Act, anyone...?
Intermediatewet1
Date: September 11, 2003 @ 3:45 PM
Why on earth would someone buy a mp3? I mean if you are going to spend the same amount as you would spend to buy a cd in the store, why would you settle for a lossy format? 90% of the song isn't there in lossy format. If you are going to pay for the full cost of the song, then buy the album.

If you take that and then add the restrictive use within which you are allowed to use that music, where is the deal? Looks to me like they found yet another way to make it more for less...

That is not exactly what I would look for when purchasing music. You shouldn't either...
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