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Kazaa 'most scanned' in RIAA subpoena war
Posted by AdvancedJon Newton in on August 29, 2003 at 10:35 AM



Kazaa 'most scanned' in RIAA subpoena campaign

With more than 1,000 hits, KaZaA is still far and away the most common p2p service scanned by the RIAA in its sue 'em all campaign, with iMesh and Grokster way behind in the number two and three spots.

Ten universities stand out from 40-plus ISPs with Comcast, SBC, Time Warner and Verizon leading the pack, says the current (EFF) Electronic Frontier Foundation dbase PACER update - 1145 - through to last Friday.

Of course, MIT and Boston College may have started a trend forcing the RIAA to file in appropriate jurisdictions instead of shot-gunning everything from Washington, DC, as it's still doing. It'll be interesting to see where that leads.

"We'll see," the EFF's Wendy Seltzer told us. "Unless we get some distributed help, it could be more difficult for us to maintain a centralized database - but at least it'll be easier for recipients to challenge the subpoenas in their own jurisdictions."

For now, the next EFF update will depend on when the DC District Court revises its PACER database followed, obviously, by the time it takes the EFF to pull the records and proofread the PDF scans.

But they're on it. So remember the EFF next time you have a little spare change you're looking to donate.

Below are some aggregate stats from the set:

Universities:
  • 6 New York University
  • 4 Bentley College
  • 3 Boston College (dismissed)
  • 2 Northeastern University
  • 1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (dismissed)
  • 1 Loyola University Chicago
  • 1 Loyola Marymount University
  • 1 DePaul University
  • 1 Columbia University
  • 1 Boston University

    ISP Recipients (including unis):
  • 372 Comcast Cable Communications, Inc.
  • 148 Time Warner Cable
  • 143 SBC
  • 108 SBC Internet Communications, Inc.
  • 87 Verizon Internet Services, Inc.
  • 85 Charter Communications, Inc.
  • 32 RCN Corporation
  • 32 Adelphia Communications Corporation
  • 26 Cox Communications, Inc.
  • 20 GTE.Net LLC (d/b/a Verizon Internet Solutions) Verizon Avenue
  • Corporation Verizon Media Ventures, In
  • 12 EarthLink, Inc.
  • 7 Mediacom Communications Corporation
  • 6 Verizon Internet Services, Inc. and GTE.Net LLC (d/b/a
  • Verizon Internet Solutions)
  • 6 New York University
  • 6 InterQuest Communications
  • 5 GTE.net LLC (d/b/a Verizon Internet Solutions)
  • 4 Earthlink, Inc.
  • 4 Bentley College Academic Technology Center
  • 3 Verizon lnternet Services, Inc.
  • 3 Insight Midwest, L.P.
  • 3 Boston College
  • 2 Verizon Media Ventures Inc.
  • 2 Sprint
  • 2 San Bruno Municipal Cable
  • 2 Northeastern University
  • 2 CSC Holdings, Inc.
  • 2 CenturyTel Internet Services, LLC
  • 2 America Online, Inc.
  • 1 Verizon Avenue Corporation
  • 1 University of Southern California
  • 1 Speakeasy, Inc
  • 1 Qwest Communications Corporation
  • 1 Pacific Bell lnternet
  • 1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
  • 1 Loyola University Chicago
  • 1 Loyola Marymount University
  • 1 Greenville Electric Utility System (GEUS)
  • 1 DePaul University
  • 1 Columbia University
  • 1 Boston University
  • 1 BlueMarble Telecom, LLC
  • 1 BellSouth.net Inc
  • 1 AT&T Worldnet Service
  • 1 Armstrong Cable Services
  • 1 America Online
  • 1 Adelphia

    Filesharing Service:
  • 1058 KaZaA
  • 28 iMesh
  • 18 Grokster
  • 13 Gnutella (Bearshare)
  • 11 MP2P (Blubster & Piolet)
  • 10 Gnutella (Limewire)
  • 4 (blank)
  • 2 Gnutella (Shareaza)
  • 1 Bearshare


  • User Comments

    DMemberminiguinea
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 10:51 AM
    spend that $1.14 less a day I talked about in the "sue em all" post and write a check to the eff at the end of the month :) (Smile)
    AdminCodeWarrior
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 10:53 AM
    Hopefully, Comcast will find "common case" with SBC, and file a suit similar to the Pac-Bell one, in another jurisdiction.
    ~code
    AdminCodeWarrior
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 10:54 AM
    common cause, not common case, sorry...clumsy darn fingers..lol
    GOOD IDEA miniguinea !
    I support that!
    DMembergilbd
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 10:57 AM

    The lastest news:

    RIAA Expands Subpoena Campaign to Gnutella
    posted by JiMiThInG on August 28, 2003 @ 04:35pm

    In the most recent list of Subpoenas filed by the record industry, Gnutella has joined MP2P, and Fast Track. It is quickly becoming obvious that simply not using Kazaa, or another F.T. client will not be enough to guarantee your safety. Users of three different Gnutella clients appear on the newest list. BearShare,Shareaza, and LimeWire. User names of these individuals are not yet available however this breakdown is.

    Bearshare (13)
    Limewire (11)
    Shareaza (2)


    Along with these new comers from the Gnutella network. 11 MP2P users and well over 1000 Fast Track users have had Subpoena’s files to reveal their identities. Anyone sharing is at risk the more you share, the more your risking.

    http://www.zeropaid.com/news/articles/auto/08282003e.php
    DMemberkoemoejoe
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 10:58 AM
    matter of fact code comcast is my isp i think i will call them up right now and ask them why thay are being so hard hit if thay are giveing out the ifo to ezey or whats going on
    Intermediatedirective
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 10:59 AM
    These numbers are actually very low in comparison to the number of ppl that file share in the US. There are around 60 million ppl, not sure what 1000 supeanas is really going to do, probably scare a couple, but a low percentage. I don't condone sharing RIAA music, but i LOVE FILESHARING!
    Advancedgoldenpi
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 11:19 AM
    It will directly remove 1000 users, and indirectly remove a few hundred thousand more at least because they will be too scared to use p2p.

    Kazaa, as one of the largest p2p networks and clients, and also as one that has continually irritated the RIAA with its game of dodge-the-lawyers, is obviously their main target.
    DMemberaxxis
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 11:36 AM
    Speaking of getting scanned, my PeerGuardian just shut down 16 attempts by two of the RIAA's cohorts, NetPD and Vidius, last night (8/28/2003) at around 6 PM. And I wasn't even downloading any songs, just an update to my VirusScan.

    Those guys are going to get a nasty-gram for me regarding this; I kept a copy of the log from the firewall.
    DMembergilbd
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 11:51 AM

    CodeWarrior You may have seen this but I thought if you haven't you might be interested in it. it is an old one from September 2003

    Monsters of Rock
    Meet the music industry agents that could ruin your downloading career.
    http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/start.html?pg=12
    Intermediatesurfside6
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 11:57 AM
    Location, location, location. For a lawyer to represent you they must be licensed in that state. My feeling that the LA law firm that is suing does not have lawyers licensed in every state. That is why many states are omitted. It looks like they are going after users in the Northeast, Illinois, and California.
    DMemberisp-privacy
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 12:02 PM
    The only thing I have in my Kazza share file right now (which I keep open) is NASTY letter to the RIAA! so come on in!
    DMembersomedeadguy
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 12:41 PM
    Kazaa is definitly the most hit. I see atleast 1,000+ port scans in my peer gaurdian log a day from various instituitions. It's really upsetting looking at that and seeing big business is trying to violate my privacy that many times a day. I really hope they get a legal (and maybe some illegal ones to) beating in court for all of this hassle.
    AdminCodeWarrior
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 1:54 PM
    gilbd - Yeah, I had seen that link, but appreciate you posting it, you are doing super keeping us all up to date on breaking news. GREAT!
    I have to split in about 5 minutes and will probably be gone til this evening, but, I am going to start working on the proposal,so if anyone feels that any certain topic needs to be addressed, or that we need to include any specific language, or anything else about the topic, please drop me a line on the board. I will need to do some research on some of the issues, and if anyone has any links to anything that you think may help, or have a bearing on this, just post 'em and I will check it out.
    We might not be able to get a bill passed, but it is at least a proactive step toward changing things. I am traditionally very pessimistic, but I also know that we will certainly never succeed if we don't try. Also, with the bills Conyers, Hatch,Berman, and Hollings have introduced, I know that there are other bills like theirs waiting in the wings, and if they keep introducing them, and making tagging other riders on them or whatever, eventually, they will get one passed, and it will make the DMCA seem like nothing in comparison. The best defense is a good offense.
    And, as I have said before, none of us wants to rob hard workng musicians of money they really deserve, and we need to protect their rights, but, it is crazy on its face that we can record whole, first run movies on TV, and that fall under Fair Use, and not be able to have an MP3 of one song from an album of songs, on our computers. It is also crazy that they can implement all the DRM measures without public comment and voting.
    Anyway, gotta go battle the double billing companies.
    Peace,love,happiness,health, and luck to all of you!
    "If this computer's Rockin', Don't bother knockin'" LOL
    ~code
    DMemberwethepeople
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 2:09 PM
    I have a dream:

    Someone should start collecting and sharing audio clips of the RIAA terrorists own words against Kazaa Sharers and the American consumer and offer it for free download to get the word out!

    Would this be considered public domain and legal?

    If so, let's do it! It would greatly benefit the cause to have them in their own words expressing their wishes to dessimate the American consumer.

    ;) (Wink)



    DMemberwethepeople
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 2:11 PM
    Text files would work also. Since everyone is on Kazaa, the word needs to be spread on the battlefield where the action is.

    This site is awesome too, but the fight is on at Kazaa so we should cooridinate our own guerilla resistance there.

    HAHAHAHA.
    DMemberwethepeople
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 2:13 PM
    This would also have the effect of demoralizing our adversaries that are trolling Kazaa as the sniper attacks continue unthwarted.

    Fight fire with fire. It is war.
    DMembergilbd
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 3:03 PM

    For the ones that writes these you can do it in Notepad and save it as a MP3. Just in case you didn't know. I have done this You can write anything and just rename the .txt to .mp3
    DMemberoldster45
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 3:29 PM
    It appears to me that the RIAA is concentrating on the West coast and the northeast, along with some northern and midwestern cities. Why are they not targetting other sections of the country? I live in the south and no one down here has been hit with a subpoena (as far as I know) yet. Is there a reason for this? Or is it just because they figure our old kerosene powered computers won't download (lol).
    DMemberr0dr0ddy
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 4:05 PM
    Local media in St. Louis reported today that our mega cable company Charter got hit with at least 10 subpoenas for consumers in the St. Louis area... so the geographic spread is probably a lot farther than people realize.

    And oldster- if the RIAA hasn't already, they're going to subpoena kerosene-powered users soon. Next on the list: ENIAC users...
    DMemberwethepeople
    Date: August 29, 2003 @ 8:51 PM
    hey gilbd thats a great idea. name a text file as an MP3. Name it something that would be sure to get hits and spread the word.

    Otherkyodylee
    Date: August 30, 2003 @ 2:42 AM
    wethepeople - Hey, how about this -Combine this idea with the thread about the RIAA/MPAA deck of cards. The file we share could just be pictures of them on playing cards. Name it RIAA/MPAA Most Wanted.
    AdvancedExpose
    Date: August 30, 2003 @ 4:22 AM
    Not ONE eMule or BitTorrent? Good, they haven't gotten to the real P2Ps yet. :) (Smile)
    DMemberRingdemBells
    Date: August 30, 2003 @ 6:32 AM
    With tuition, housing, books, etc. being what it is (and always has been for college students relatively speaking) when is the RIAA going to realize that if these kids don't download songs for free, then they aren't going to be able to afford the CD's anyway?
    DMemberA12341
    Date: August 30, 2003 @ 10:24 AM
    Im a previouse kazaa user now onto more, unknown name p2p programs and i think this is absolutely ridiculouse, the RIAA makes CDs for about 10 cents each then they have the balls to charge me $15.00?!? if they really wanted sales then theyd lower it to about $5.00 a cd, and many people say that its the stores that make the price, well what about VIRGIN , they have there own record store and still ripping us off, my advice to the RIAA is to give it up, youll never stop it all your doing is making more of an ass out of yourself you selfish pigs
    DMembertkirton
    Date: August 30, 2003 @ 12:05 PM
    I agree...if they really wanted business, they would lower the price of the CD. I remember when a DVD of a movie cost $30.00. Now I can go into a store and buy one for about $10-$20. It costs me more in time and money to download a good quality movie and burn it than it does to go buy one, hence why I started buying DVD's. At the same time, I've seen CD's go from about $11 a few years ago to now about $18-$22...and the number of good songs on one CD has decreased from about 5-6 to about 1-2 out of 10 songs. This fact is why I stopped buying CD's. If the record industry (RIAA) would take the approach of the movie industry, then file sharing would be at a minimum. But I believe they are too narrow-minded and greedy to take this approach. Easier to blame someone else for your shortcomings.
    Advancedgoldenpi
    Date: August 30, 2003 @ 2:42 PM
    It takes you more time and money to download a film than to buy one at the moment. But consider the future, when you will be downloading on a 10Mbit connection, thanks to an upgraded phone network with better data capabilities. All the p2p uploaders could have similar connections. You get movies, as much as you want when you want, and then you can fit four of them on a DVD. Thats one of the reasons the MPAA is fighting p2p film piracy now, before it gets too well established. They saw the mess the RIAA got itsself into by waiting too long to sue napster.
    DMembertkirton
    Date: August 30, 2003 @ 2:57 PM
    That's true.

    I'm always looking back on this and thinking that the RIAA screwed themselves initially by calling attention to Napster. How many people do you think would actually be downloading music if they never heard of Napster? I believe more and more people would eventually download music off the Internet, especially when faced with $15-$20 per CD prices...but not at the explosive rate had it not been for the RIAA giving Napster worldwide media attention. I didn't know anything about Napster before that, but I definitely became very familiar with it after RIAA (and a few groups we shall not name here...Metallica...) decided that the public must know about the "injustice" and "theft" that Napster was doing.

    This is so stupid, and yet, this is the type of society that we live in...a handful of people telling the masses what they can and can't do...and the masses do as they are told, with the obvious exception of the few with common sense. Those people with common sense are considered an endangerment to society and must be eliminated. But since you can't legally kill people, you do the next legal best thing...sue them in civil court.
    DMemberMadShark
    Date: August 30, 2003 @ 9:06 PM
    Huh!

    The Riaa is not thinking about something. Because just thing about the old(generation) of music. All artist where happy when people where able to listen to there music. Artist of the (past) where not thinking about million and million of dollars. The new genration of artist just want money+money. We all know that .. but if you want money for your CD ... You will need to let's people listen to it. IF WE DO NOT LOVE YOUR SONG .. WHY SHOUD WE BUT IT AT THIS PRICE ?? I Will never pay 15$ for a CD if i only love 2 or 3 song on it ... If an album is great and have more than 8 great song ... yes i will buy it .. but never at 15$ a cd ...
    DMemberuke-duelist
    Date: August 30, 2003 @ 9:33 PM
    o_O LOL, looks like my favorite filesharing program isn't even on the RIAA's radar... maybe everyone should just switch to using WinMX! XD
    Advancedgoldenpi
    Date: August 31, 2003 @ 4:41 AM
    I switched to directconect recently to download some TV programs. Its a difficult network to put a bot on, so the RIAA could have problems with it. They can forget about infiltrateing the private invite-only hubs, and the public hubs usually have their own bots checking users are shareing and detecting search spams, as well as human admins who will spot naything suspicious.
    DMemberA12341
    Date: August 31, 2003 @ 2:45 PM
    alot of my friends have seen the anti-drug commercials and alot of my friends dont smoke cause they believe that there true, but now that weve started seeing commercials about how downloading music is bad theyve started smoking, so along with the RIAA taking away freedoms there also contributing to the drug use in america...doesnt anyone think they should be stopped befor they mess up more stuff?....well all i know is ive officially stopped buying CDs and a new MORPHEUS is out, it beat the riaa and came out again so check it out..and when you buy a cd the CD store doesnt say "that cd is for u and ur use ONLY" you could have 2000 friends over to listen to that cd and thats basically the same thing with kazaa, imesh, etc. when you burn a cd its kind of like....having your friend keep playing the music and u have a device that makes u be able to hear it and you can carry that device anywhere
    DMemberA12341
    Date: August 31, 2003 @ 2:58 PM
    anyone else know some names for free p2p programs, i use to have like 5 but we had to clean out the comp and i want some i havnt tried yet, ive already had kazaa, imesh, limewire, winmx, bearshare, and currently i have the brand new morpheus
    Advancedmtekk
    Date: August 31, 2003 @ 6:00 PM
    oh, oh, I'm at risk kindaof, ATT Worldnet service and Gnutella (Shareaza) Better see if I'm going to get sued by the RIAA.

    Free p2p apps well here is a list.

    Gnucleus (GnucDNA) http://www.gnucleus.com
    Shareaza (G2, G1, BT, ED2K) http://www.shareaza.com

    Both are sweet and don't contain Any ads, spyware, and allow you to block RIAA, MPAA, FBI and other bad IPS

    Just search for Shareaza security update and download it if you use shareaza, Gnucleus is a little more complicated to do but it is possible.
    DMembernirvanasaneu...
    Date: August 31, 2003 @ 11:19 PM
    the best way to get out of this is not to use kazaa but a unknown p2p that the riaa doesnt know about.
    DMemberHappyDanip
    Date: September 1, 2003 @ 3:03 AM
    Why dont people just stop using kazaa its the most hit program anyways and one of the worst filesharing programs out there. The only good program i know about is direct connect. Newsgroups are great too.
    Advancedgoldenpi
    Date: September 1, 2003 @ 4:26 AM
    Because kazaa is the largest network and the easyist to use client. You just enter a search, find the file, double click, and wait. Thats all. Doesn't get much easier than that. You dont have to learn the complexities of par file recovery like on usenet, or find the best hubs as on DC++. You dont even need to learn to read the emule graphs.

    Kazaa is lacking some features that would be very usful, and are now seen in many other p2p programs, such as forced shareing of partials, a working (non-hackable) credit system, better firewall resistance, more detailed progress bars to make it easier to spot network incomplete files, a queueing system that doesn't result in large music and movies using all the upload time, greatly increaseing queue times on smaller files such as books. But its a very easy to use program, and an established brand. Its also dont a good job if evadeing the RIAA :-) (Smile)
    Intermediatewet1
    Date: September 3, 2003 @ 12:06 AM
    Interesting, I got 600 plus attempts to get in through pg, hardware, and software firewalls. Time Warner and Dmusic, almost like a DoS hit. Thanks to PeerGuardian and others for the help. Don't know where we would be without the help from folks interested in privacy because it is obvious that the RIAA, MPAA, and others have no respect for privacy unless it is their own.
    Intermediatewet1
    Date: September 3, 2003 @ 12:06 AM
    Interesting, I got 600 plus attempts to get in through pg, hardware, and software firewalls. Time Warner and Dmusic, almost like a DoS hit. Thanks to PeerGuardian and others for the help. Don't know where we would be without the help from folks interested in privacy because it is obvious that the RIAA, MPAA, and others have no respect for privacy unless it is their own.
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