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Outcome of protest in Torrance - future protests
Posted by Intermediatedirective in on August 3, 2003 at 1:11 AM



I believe we had a successful day, though myself and a gentleman by the name of Clyde were the only ones that showed up. Upon arriving at 8:45, I gave out a few fliers, but not until 10 am did any one else show up. Clyde arrived and was very agressive. I have pictures also to document the day.

Clyde and I passed out about 150 fliers or so, I talked to over 50 people and showed my sign to over 1000 people. I stood waving MY BOYCOTT SIGN on HAWTHORNE & SEPULVEDA and enjoyed doing that. Clyde passed out fliers and never got kicked off the property, so the cops never showed up.

We stayed till about 12:30 in the afternoon, and just before we left, JASON (jason@909media.com) from 909 Media Corp stopped in with 4 people, so our numbers will be growing!

All in all, it was fun and WE WILL BE DOING IT AGAIN!
HERE ARE THE PLANS then I'll show the pics for the day:

WE ARE GOING TO PROTEST ON 9-6-03 IN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, CA. Its off the 10 freeway, and the address is:
1205 Plaza Drive
West Covina, CA 91790
(626) 962-8707(R)
(626) 814-2375(V)
They open at 10. I WILL BE THERE AROUND 15 MINUTES TO 10.
BECAUSE OF THE LOW TURNOUT, I AM PUTTING OUT A PLEA THAT WE NEED MORE!!! Also, if you plan to email me at PROTEST@directive21.com, IF YOU ARE NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO PROTEST, DO NOT EMAIL ME. I WASTED A LOT OF TIME EMAILING AND CALLING PEOPLE TO SEE THEM NOT SHOW UP. Let's get serious and have fun TOO!

Lastly, here are the pics:
Clyde Passing out Fliers
http://www.directive21.homestead.com/files/clyde.jpg
RIAA SIGN THAT CLYDE TAPED TO THE STOP SIGN AT TOWER RECORDS
http://www.directive21.homestead.com/files/RIAASIGN.jpg
PICTURE OF ME (directive) IN THE FRONT OF TOWER RECORDS
http://www.directive21.homestead.com/files/FRONTTR.jpg
GUY READING A FLIER I GAVE ME
http://www.directive21.homestead.com/files/guywithflier.jpg
ME ON THE SIDEWALK EDUCATING
http://www.directive21.homestead.com/files/educating.jpg
ME ON THE SIDEWALK EDUCATING MORE
http://www.directive21.homestead.com/files/educating2.jpg

THANKS & LET'S EDUCATE!


User Comments

Advancedthumbtack
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 11:17 AM
Let's hear some more reports people!
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 11:23 AM
Man, directive talks the talk but he also Walks the Walk. We need more people doing this. Imagine the press coverage if even a few do this around the country.
Not much to add...but a note to directive, Clyde, Jason from 909Media, you are the new freedom fighters...and we should all support what you are doing and should take it as an example.
Many thanks for your service to our cause!!!!!
~code
Intermediatedirective
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 11:36 AM
CodeWarrior,
Thanks for your words, Protesting isn't easy, but it sure was worth it and fun too! Code, where are you at? Did u protest also?
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 11:46 AM
I had a bunch of stuff that I had to do yesterday, but in all the spare minutes I had, I was writing the pres., congress, and the media. Hey,that's why I am so supportive of what you did...and no it isn't easy.
Almost 20 years ago, I formed a grassroots organization to defeat bills in the house and senate that were aimed at martial arts ...we won both issues and defeated them. some of the same players are some of the ones on the pro RIAA side...i'm using some tactics i developed there in the behind the scenes fight on my end.
Although I may not be on the streets, I am protesting 24/7 (even in my sleep...haha)
~code
DMemberSideShow-Dis...
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 11:49 AM
Sorry, a little unrelated but I thought I would share this. This little beauty is on the inside of one of the CD's I have (purchased second hand of course) Many props to the band Boysetsfire for this little gem. Please read this:

Protest is Patriotism
It is a citizen's duty to speak up, especially when that citizen sees that the country that he loves and the freedom that he cherishes is being torn to shreads by self-seving bastards in three piece suits.

Watch what you say, shut up and wave the flag, support the president because that is the right thing to do and, by golly, we did elect him. LIES. The President-Select took over in on of the most daring coups in modern times.

"Those that suppress freedom always do so in the name of law and order." - John Lindsay

Protest is Patriotism
This country was founded on radical actions; it's population swelled by masses seeking respite from oppression, whether it be political or religious. They came here. They came looking for freedom of all religions, freedom of speech, the freedom to live as they chose to live. We are now told to watch what we say. We are now told that some religions are suspect because they worship a different GOD than most Americans worship. (That god which is money.) And now we stand and watch while our freedoms erode.

"This country, with it's institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their Constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." - Abraham Lincoln

Protest is Patriotism
By the time you hold this in your hands, odds are we will be in a war. With who does not matter. Probably a country with oil. If we are not at war, then our prayers for peace have been answered. The government and their world police now have more power then they enjoyed in the Nixon era, drunk on blood and oil, they stumble across the world stage, picking fights with nayone who dares to not fall in line with our "economic plans" (see sweatshops) for their country. Be informed. Ingnorance is inexcusable. Know your rights.

"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion" - Thomas Jefferson

It is our duty to let our government know how we feel. Let them know that we don't think making big business even bigger is worth going to war for and seeing our children come home in body bags. Let them know that you disagree with a foreign policy that is directly responsible for terrorism both domestic and abroad. Make them feel your passion that this is a country for everyone, not just the top 1% tax bracket. Patriotism is not blind faith in your government. Patriotism is active participation. Patriotism is not standing idly by while rich white men pass laws that only benefit themselves but cloak these same laws in words like "compassionate".

"Who are the ral patriots? Who are the real traitors? Who will stand up, who will be our new leaders? If you love this country, take it back from those that would destroy it! PROTEST IS PATRIOTISM." - Boysetsfire, January 2003
IntermediateRemye
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 11:51 AM
I had to work, so I only got out for about an hour, but I had something interesting happen @work.
I was in front of Coconuts in West Lebanon NH for about an hour, passing out fliers and generally making a nusiance(sp) of myself, but in a good way. Got to work right on the dot.
At work, I was going about my business, spreading the news about the protests when I could to customers waitinging in line, when this guy asked me for details. I told him what I could in two minutes, gave him the boycott and the dmusic web addresses, and he gave me his card. Turns out, he works for a local radio station that's owned by Clear Channel. He told me that he's not exactly happy with the rep that clearchannel has, he just wants to work in music etc etc...
He ALSO told me he was following the whole thing with the RIAA very closely.
So.. tho I didn't get a lot of active protest time in, I kinda feel the day was a sucess for me.
Any more stories about the day??
ttmmm
DMemberseraphielx
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 11:52 AM
kool are there reports of anything else that has been going on this weekend?

i havn't heard much of anything...
Intermediatedirective
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 11:57 AM
Remye,
Good work! We'll need to keep doing this!
Let's Educate!
Intermediatedirective
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 11:58 AM
code,
thanks for the info and your words of encouragement!! Do u have a day or time planned where a group can get together where you live and you ca protest?
Thanks
DMemberGoIndie
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 12:50 PM
I have not bought a CD from an RIAA owned label since last fall. Most of the best music in my collection is on indie labels. I will definately NOT buy any CDs on any RIAA labels until they cease and desist from waging war on consumers. I believe record sales would improve if the RIAA promoted some decent artists instead of the intelligence-insulting crap on the shelves in most record stores. I use file-sharing along with CMJ New Music Monthly to discover new artists whose material is worth purchasing...and I have an interesting CD collection as a result of it. You can still buy good music AND boycott the RIAA labels.
DMemberthe-question
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 1:39 PM
well, i work in retail so i just passed out fliers there, also- my boss let me post some around the store... so all in all i say i did my duty.
IntermediatetheHERMlT
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 2:02 PM
There was a couple of my friends in my mall, I wrote the flyer, they had it printed into 100, but only passed 25 of them out in 4 hours. (At least that is what I was told). I'm ashamed I didn't go myself. I won't make excuses.

Let's try this again.
IntermediatetheHERMlT
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 2:06 PM
I think I would have had much better luck on UNCW'S campus. At the very least we could have protected some unknowing "future poster child" of the boycott.

opinions?
IntermediateSinisterX
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 3:35 PM
I wish I could have protested but we don't have such store or places in our area. Cause if we did, I would have been out there. Funny thing though, the war protesters were out in droves but when it comes to something like this, they can't be found. :) (Smile)

way to go directive. Love the report.

too bad the media didnt get involved and Congress can go screw. They could careless about tax payers. They just want the money and the votes.

DMembermaddawg15
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 4:11 PM
Hey ppl! im new to this, where can i find some anti riaa signs so i can print some out, i want to post em on some stop signs and what not.... SHOW ME THE SIGN!
RockgdZiemann
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 4:29 PM
maddawg15 -- Check the links at the top of any of the www.boycott-riaa pages.
DMembermusicofthe80s
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 6:01 PM
Guys, I love what you're doing. I think you're awesome and ya'll have a lot of determination. But I have a problem that I think you can help me straighen out. My parents made me disable shareing on my Kazaa, but I want to be in favor of taking the RIAA down. But when I disable shareing, does that mean I can't educate because I can't contribute my music? Please help me figure this out. Thanks!

Boycott-RIAA.com RULES!!!
DMemberblubster
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 7:19 PM
Hey fellaz, am i safe in canada to gl tunes?
DMemberblubster
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 7:20 PM
gl? meant dl, download tunes
DMemberclarencex
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 7:40 PM
Hey Directive, How dare you call me a gentleman! Username here is clarencex and this is my first post. Hey don't be discouraged by the low turn-out. The first steps are always the hardest ones. I had a great time. I was impresssed by how many people I talked to who know about the problems with the RIAA and were receptive to our message.

Also, somebody here said something about the anti war movement and where were they. Well, we are here, dude! And, to relate these things together, let me say that it took years and years for the anti war movement to build. This will be much faster cause we got this wonderful internet to help us build it.

See y'all at Tower!

Clyde

Alternativealcoholicskunk
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 8:29 PM
Directive, where really able to stay in the front of the store like that?... I was going to go to the tower here(in portland... due to work drama I coudln't make it). .. But I'm pretty sure that the loss prevention or mall security would have made us move to the sidewalk. I know the manager at that tower is *very* anti-file/tape/cd trading... even in cases of live "unavailable" stuff where the bands allow it.. Probably wouldn't have messed up any job reference I would have gotten from them considering I used to work there but oh well.. this is more important and I will be there in the future.. Props to you and everyone else.
Marq
DMemberclarencex
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 8:41 PM
alcoholicskunk: Rules vary from state to state, so I wouldn't want to say for sure. But the best rule of thumb is just go do it, and if they ask you to leavae, you leave. My gues is that they won't even notice you. I'm sure they didn't even notice us at the Torrance Tower record. As an ex-Tower record employee, you know better than I what it's like working there, but my guess is the employees could care less.

My experience at picketing and leafleting is that the folks in the store usually don't know you are there unless some customer complains about it. So just be sure make nice to the people going into the store and don't argue.

Good luck, I think you will have fun. And let us know how it goes.
DMembermusicofthe80s
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 9:01 PM
I'm gonna say my question again, please answer it! I need a answer badly.

My parents made me disable shareing on my Kazaa, but I want to be in favor of taking the RIAA down. But when I disable shareing, does that mean I can't educate because I can't contribute my music? Please help me figure this out. Thanks!
IntermediateSinisterX
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 9:17 PM
musicofthe80's, you can educate anyway you want, by protesting, spreading the word about the evil's of the RIAA to your friends and family etc. I can't share anymore but I still am protesting and spreading the word. Word of mouth, is the best way to tell people about the RIAA. As far as your parents disabling you can change the pref? unless of course, they dont want you too. Just a few suggestions. Hope that helps???
DMemberzeratul123
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 9:28 PM
Could we do another protest somewhere close to or in Irvine? If anyone plans on attending then I will host because I live here.

Thoughts please
DMemberzeratul123
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 9:28 PM
Could we do another protest somewhere close to or in Irvine? If anyone plans on attending then I will host because I live here.

Thoughts please
DMemberzeratul123
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 9:28 PM
Could we do another protest somewhere close to or in Irvine? If anyone plans on attending then I will host because I live here.

Thoughts please
Intermediatedraugluin
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 9:34 PM
Seems like a waste of time here, but maybe it wasn't hopefully you guys reached out and grabbed a few people. Hopefully this protest was successful even though the turn out wasn't as good as it should have been.

Has anyone seen that commercial about Tobacco products, where those 2,000 People go and walk to a Tobaco Corp, and they all fall down outside of it. Maybe something like that should be done out side of the RIAA's main headquarters :) (Smile)

The worst thing that would happen is being kicked off the property, in that case just don't put up a fight. Ghandi was turned away, but he would never resist, but he would always continue his fight.

But I doubt that Tower Recors protest really turned out anything. The place didn't look all that attractive really. I mean, you need to find a big music store, with lots of customer income and show them.

Then again, apparently people don't really care that the RIAA is doing what they are doing.

I guess they'll care when they find themselves in a courtroom getting their ass sued off.
DMemberwabbitman
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 9:49 PM
I would like to say thankyou to directive , and to everyone else who protested Saturday for us and for this very worthy cause . THANK YOU !
Although there was nothing official planned here in the late great state of Indiana , a few freinds and I were going to hand out fliers and talk to folks outside our nearest Best BUY .
Unfortunatly , Saturday morning I was unable to even get out of bed without help. I was just released from the hospital a few hours ago .
I am not posting this as an excuse .
I am , however , posting this as a plea for help . If anyone in northern or central Indiana is reading this and would like to help plan a protest around here , please let me know in this post. I'm just not able to do this without help.
THANX AGAIN , and hopefully I can help
WILL HELP ANYWAY POSSIBLE
WABBITMAN
Intermediatedirective
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 10:37 PM
musicofthe80s,
This is what i reccomend, i have downloaded over 1000 files on kazaa, the GOLD FILES, plus i have downloaded all the songs on www.fairforshare.com and also talked to independent record companies and gotten a couple files from them.
Only share the Gold files and authorized, that is a way to protest. i have kazaa open all day with those files.
Thanks
Intermediatedirective
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 10:40 PM
zeratul123,
Please make the trip out to West covina, its a few miles, but in all seriousness, PLEASE COME!
DMembermusicofthe80s
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 10:40 PM
Yeah SinisterX, thanks for the info. My parents didn't turn it off themselves, they made me do it. But I'm still gonna take a stand for my rights. Thanks again!
Intermediatedirective
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 10:41 PM
draugluin,
I see what you mean by things being pointless, but if WE consitently do this, WE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. We are going to a better place next time, and i am thinking about going to THE SUNSET BLVD. TOWER RECORDS NEXT TIME!
Thanks
DMembermusicofthe80s
Date: August 3, 2003 @ 10:44 PM
Hey all I have an idea for a protest. I might not do it but if ya'll can make it that would be great. It could be at the Golden Triangle Mall in Denton, Texas in front of the brand new Foley's preview opening on August 11th. That would be a great place because that Foley's storefront will be stuffed with people!
DMembermusiq4me
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 12:25 AM
I just found this web site tonight I have been on it now for about 2 hours.I like it.It Gets Me All Worked Up.I have collected music since 1974
RIAA has gotten enought money from me.
I will do all i can. by the way I started with napster now it's limewire
DMemberblubster
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 1:15 AM
Can someone please answer my question this time. Am i safe from the RIAA in because I live in Canada? Thank u.
Intermediatedirective
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 1:55 AM
blubster,
I would say your not safe from the RIAA unless u decide not to share there files.
Intermediatedirective
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 2:11 AM
I have said it many times, but i have 1335 legal files that i currently share on kazaa.
Advancedcaptdunsel
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 2:48 AM
directive-- keep up the good work. just remember all fires start small. if I lived anywhere near california i'd be out there with you. Even if it seems like it now you are not alone, there are 60 million of us in the US alone they just haven't learned to speak up yet. Keep spreading the word
Intermediatedirective
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 3:08 AM
captdunsel,
Thanks for your words. The only thing i have to report is that what the RIAA is doing is scaring ppl away from kazaa, and it is working. Though i do not want to admit it.....what they are doing is working....the bright side is that the RIAA in scaring off people, does not mean that they will now go out and buy loads of cd's....it will probably push people underground.
DMemberNUKEandPAVE
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 6:07 AM
Sorry, other side of the country, and i was a bit to busy to fly out. LOL
DMemberjb1340
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 7:37 AM
I think the boycotts will go better once college students return to campus.
DMembermusicofthe80s
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 8:42 AM
directive,
What are Gold Files? Really good files, or safe to share?
Intermediatedirective
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 9:50 AM
safe to share, and also good. I listen to the trance music all the time, and it is GREAT!
DMemberseraphielx
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 11:38 AM
safe in canadia......for now
DMemberCaptainCupca...
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 12:15 PM
in kazaa, gold files are ones that you have to pay for. Nice job directive!

Tip of the hat,
Captain C
Intermediatedirective
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 12:42 PM
CaptainCupca...,
That is not true, some you have to pay for, but the music files and some of the games are free to play or atleast try. I have been listing to some of the music for about a month now, and I have never paid a dime.
DMembermaddawg15
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 3:06 PM
ok, last night, me and a buddy of mine printed up like 10 RIAA with the slash through it posters all over our neiborhood... mainly on stop signs, electric poles... anything near the road.... and plan to post up more sometime soon.
IntermediateSinisterX
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 4:32 PM
There's no dent without media coverage. I say write to fox news channel but they are the media and probably appart of the RIAA anyway. A no win situation. Just like writing to Congress. I say spread the word in schools once school starts again. Tell teens not to bay that Briney or Enem CD. Let the know that the bands or artist doesnt even get a dime of that money.

Word of mouth, best way to educate!

IntermediateSinisterX
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 4:34 PM
sorry, typoland there. :D (Big Grin)
DMembernailedshutpunk
Date: August 4, 2003 @ 11:18 PM
you knwo what sucks. my area. there is no movement iny area i live in the northern virginia area and i saw nothing. i was unfrotuantly unable to plan anything due to a really heavy work load but i am sporting a riaa kills babies sign on my car well ok not that extreme but a boycott riaa sign on my bumper
IntermediatetheHERMlT
Date: August 5, 2003 @ 2:40 PM
to musicofthe80s,

I think some, if not most people boycotting the RIAA bastards, are not sharing or downloading any music on KAZAA or any kind of P2P network. I'm am glad that your parents are protecting themselves from the lawsuits of the RIAA. As a part of the boycott, they are not going to pay the RIAA legal fees in the range of $750.00 for every file shared. How many files did you share before your parents protected themselves? And how much would your parents have to pay the RIAA if they were sued?
DMemberwethepeople
Date: August 5, 2003 @ 5:05 PM
I would just like to add that I am a white man. Not rich.Not a politician. And I do not like what is going on. Please don't give us all a bad rap.

Politicians is all you have to say. I don't think white man has anything to do with it.
DMembermaddawg15
Date: August 5, 2003 @ 7:53 PM
OMFG!!!! I JUST POSTED UP A FEW SIGNS NEAR STOP SIGNS, SPEED SIGNS AND ANY SIGN NEAR A BUSY ROAD WAY LAST NIGHT, AND I WOKE UP THIS MORNING TO SEE THAT SOME COPS OR CITY OFFICIALS WERE TAKING THEM DOWN, THEY ARE TAKING AWAY MY RIGHTS, WTF ARE THOSE BASTARDS THINK THEY'RE DOING?
DMembermaddawg15
Date: August 5, 2003 @ 7:56 PM
i spent a good 30 minutes just making about 5 signs about 5 inches long and wide and had to walk from 1 block to a mile away to post em in my area. and now all of them but 2 are gone.
DMembergavinelias
Date: August 9, 2003 @ 5:09 AM
differs depending on where you live...but most city ordinances don't actually allow you to put up signs or posters. they tend to turn a blind eye to lost pets and garage sale notices, provided they get taken down in a certain amount of time. contact city administration to find out where you can legally put signs up. good luck.
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