Actions speak louder than words.

By appointing Mr Mitch Bainwol as its new chairman and ceo, the Recording Industry Association of America proves once again that its members and board of directors will continue to desperately shore up their antiquated business model through legislation instead of innovation.

Rather than seeking someone who's respected by both sides to actively work for solutions, they've hired another Washington insider to push their myopic agenda in Congress.

The RIAA often calls for a "Free Market Solution," but nonetheless continually balks at solutions, usually rejecting them out of hand.

Its members are all for a "Free Market" - as long as they control it.

So instead of celebrating a wind of change by calling off our protests on August 1 and 2, we'll re-double our efforts to make them dates the music industry in general, and the RIAA in particular, will remember.

Bill Evans

EVERYONE WHO CAN COME, PLEASE COME!!:
PROTEST AT THE TOWER RECORDS IN TORRANCE, CA ON 8-02-03
Lets Educate the Public!

For everyone in the LA area southern California. I'm coordinating the PROTEST on 8-02-03 at the TOWER Records in Torrance, CA.

Here's the address and phone number:
22135 Hawthorne Blvd
Torrance, CA 90503
(310) 316-4444(R)
(310) 316-0313(V)
They open at 9:00 am.

Please arrive before or around 8:45 am so we can coordinate. I'll have 100 fliers or more to pass out, and PLEASE bring more. I'll be there for 4 hours, if not longer, depending on how many people show up. I'll have a BIG sign and I suggest you bring a sign as well and get ready to get people's attention.

Any questions, please email me at PROTEST@directive21.com

Lets Educate the Public!

8:45am? On a weekend? Well i hope some people show up.

The store opens at 9.... if i am the only one, i don't care, atleast ppl will see ME!

Maybe you guys should list where all the Tower Records are located in different cities so pleople who dont live in L.A. can protest in their area???

Or, where ever music is sold? Like the department stores? Just a thought.

Here is a list of all the stores:
http://www.towerrecords.com/stores/default.asp

In the link above, you will have to move the "s" next to the "p"
Thanks

It doesn't have to be tower. Go into any mall in the country and there'll be a record store.

It works, nevermind

crawdd,
Exactly!

Actions do speak louder than words. The RIAA (and Clear Channel) will continue to do legislation to do their bidding. My question for any one out there is whether or not it would be feasible to sue the RIAA? And if so, on what grounds? If any one has any ideas, I'd like to hear them.
-Brandon.TBS
http://www.thebrandonshow.com

tell us how it goes, anyone who does protest

I would love to know where the stores are in louisiana , i am with yall 100%, they don't have the right to take away our music. they are pond scum and belong in the swamp, all i got to say if they take my music. me and a munch of friends will never buy or listen to music again. It is imperable that we get our message across. They will not win

id like to see the protests larger than what we saw with the antiwar protests.

HOw about Best buy!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great work directive! And everyone...leflaw...that's a great idea..I bet the BestBuy would have a bigger area for protestors...
What everyone at the RIAA must understand, is that August 1 and 2 are not the whole protest...just the first two days of an ongoing protest....which includes a serious decline in profits...to the point of them not hardly selling any CDs! From everything I have read from the music execs, they are so arrogant, so out of touch with reality (maybe they're high on coke or something) that they honestly don't think the public will turn against them, and as some said, even if the public does, they "don't care". What kind of businessman actually says he doesn't care if all current and potential customers get extremely pissed at that business...
can anyone imagine BestBuy (or Wal-Mart) making a public, quoted statement, that they don't care if they piss off every current or potential customer? This is insanity.
Insanity was once defined by Einstein as doing the same thing over and over expecting to get a different outcome.
Record labels (and now the RIAA) have been intentionally screwing over the musicians and the public for at least 50 years (if not much much longer), and it has gotten worse with regard to the public getting screwed. We are talking about a product that is not a "must have"...it isn't food, shelter, or medical care..we are bombarded with music everywhere from elevators, to our car, to stores, to waiting rooms...I say bombarded to stress the pervasive nature of music, and I love music. It is an integral part of my life. If I go without listening to music, I get a bit depressed. In my decades of listening to music, I've gone from one of the early transistor radios on which I heard the first Beatles release, to actual 45 records, to 8 track tapes, to cassettes, to CDs. And during that time, the retail music has gotten more expensive. I've gone to a lot of concerts and bought the t-shirts. I play guitar and keyboards myself a bit, but as much as I love music, know what I love more? I love the rights we were , according to the constitution and declaration of indepedence, given to us by God, not by the freakin' government. Our rights are not something we are "allowed" to have by a government. They are with us at birth if we were born on a desert island in the middle of an ocean.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...being secure in our persons and our home without being arbitrarily invaded without good cause...now these are provisions against what the government can do...what we have here is a bizarre situtation in the 21st century.
Robots are invading your computer at the direction of a friggin' business, and you instantly become a criminal and target of lawsuit, for having files in the wrong folder!!!!
Now that is bizarre and wrong to me.
They keep saying that the people are "offering" the files for download. There's no friggin' sign saying..."I have files here for you to please download and please violate copyright law." Anyway, they are not downloading YOUR files, they are actually COPYING copyrighted materials themselves onto their drives...so technically, that is a violation of the DMCA I think. A robot/spider cannot have an ok to download copyrighted material itself, because it is not a human, and thus, cannot legally engage in contract. So, the toadies / humans that are doing this crap at the behest of the RIAA, had better have express written authorization by the copyright holder for each song they download from the drives of others, or they are under copyright violation as well. AND, if they download ANY material that is done "in error" by anyone who THEY do not have express written authorization to do so, they are in violation. But here we get into an issue that I am not sure of. As a registered copyright holder, I know a bit about this. I have copyrighted written works, and music probably is not that different.
The original copyright, was probably for an analog version...i.e. words and musical tones...digital works are 1s and zeros. A CD reproduces sounds by having pits burned into an acrylic like material. This is a technical process which in and of itself is a unique product. For example, I could write a tune on a guitar. When I write it, the strings create standing waves, zones of compression and rarefaction of air molecules...this is different from what happens with a cd or even an MP3 reproducing something that SOUNDS similar to what I originally came up with on my guitar. It is NOT identical to that physical event however.
For anyone wanting to look at the exact wording of the DMCA..it's here in PDF format...http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf

By the way,when you go to public message boards, I suggest always using a proxy which is "high anonymity" to visit boards on and to post...makes good sense...nuff said
~code

Those of you who read the DMCA will note that one requirement is that any complainant must have a registered copyright. If sometime you want to find out who owns the copyright to a song, or if there is a registered claimant...check it here:
http://www.copyright.gov/records/cohm.html
As Ali G would say "Check yourself before you wreck yourself."

By using the above link...I looked up on bigchampagne.com and found a song that they rate in the top ten most downloaded...is P.I.M.P by some group named 50 cent (sorry folks, I'm an old guy...I still listen to Johnny Winter, Jonny Lang, Chris Rea, AC/DC). The copyright info on this "tune" is:
1. Registration Number: PA-1-105-184
Title: P.I.M.P.
Description: Computer sound file.
Note: Electronic registration. Performed by 50 Cent.
In: Get rich or die tryin'. mShady/Aftermath 0694935442, 2003.
Claimant: EMI April Music, Inc., Derty Werks, 50 Cent Music Publishing, B. Parrott
Created: 2003

Published: 06Feb03

Registered: 31Mar03

Author on © Application: words and music: Denaun M. Porter, acB. Parrott, Curtis Jackson (50 Cent, pseud.)
Miscellaneous: Rights and permissions info. on CORDS appl. in CO.
Special Codes: 3/M/R
As you can see, there are multiple claimants to copyright. On an older work, like The Long and Winding Road (Paul McCartney's song)...you get this copyright info :
1. Registration Number: RE-770-931
Title: The long and winding road. w & m Paul McCartney & John Lennon.
Claimant: acPaul McCartney (A), Yoko Ono (W), Sean Ono & Julian Lennon (C)
Effective Registration Date: 2Jan98
Original Registration Date: 15May70;
Original Registration Number: EFO-142261.
Original Class: E
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Look at the claimant's on that one.

The point is that it is the registred copyright holder(s) who have legal standing to bring an action under the DMCA...I haven't found one song in which the RIAA is the registered claimant. So, what they must be doing is having a legal agreement in which they are suing on behalf of ALL claimants...

Question for anybody. Are they just busting people using regular Kazaa or are they also getting people using Kazaa Lite also?

lets get the MEDIA.. involed.. GOODMORNING AMERICA... CNN..MSNBC..ETC..

Here's an interesting article in the New York Times about the subpoenas:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/28/technology/28TUNE.html?pagewanted=1

Things are really heating up.

They wanna bust anyone for downloading anything. Not just on Kazaa or Kazaa Lite. They're just concentrating on Kazaa before moving on to other programs.

mlpkmlp-
Great idea. Everyone call up your local news and get them to come to a protest on 8/2/03. We need to get our voice heard!

I'm sorry, that wasn't what I was asking. What I mean is, for now are they just going after the stuff they can track? From what I understand, they cannot track Kazaa Lite. I have not even heard the RIAA mention that program. I assumed because they are inept.

Feisar,
it seems like they are not, but you never know.

i also use kazaa lite, but i have no reason to hide anyway. I share all legal files, 1309 files!

As for protests: Unfortunately for the proposed Torrance gathering, I live in New York City. Are there any plans for similar protests outside Towers in other cities, i.e. the two Tower stores in Manhattan, one at East 4th Street & Broadway and West 66th Street & Broadway? I'd seriously consider similar coordinations at locations like these . . .

Kazaa Lite is a modified version of Kazaa, it operates on the same network as Kazzaa. Grokster and IMesh also use Kazaa's fasttrack network. For an RIAA affiliate to use a bot ont he network, it the client is irrelivant, it will catch anyone sharing on the network. This means if you use Kazaa, Kazaa Lite, Grokster, or IMesh...A bot using Kazaa's fasttrack network will find you.

In addition to that, I recently saw a news clip on TechTV. They interviewed the CEO of a firm that has in the past done investigation on people soliciting kiddie porn, but has recently turned to helping the RIAA investigators search for copyright infringement. Durring the interview TechTV flashed a few shots of the software used in the investigation process. The software showed a table structure in which there was a column for the file name, a column for the ip address, and a column for the network among others. It was clearly visible (as far as I could see from the limited footage of the software) that the networks being searched were Fasttrack (Kazaa, Kazaa Lite, Grokster, IMesh), Edonkey (Edonkey2000, Emule) and Gnutella (countless clients). From the case of the college students being procesecuted we know that the RIAA also follows Direct Connect hub networks.

What do we know for sure? The RIAA monitors the 4 largest p2p networks available to the consumer. Therefore, if you're sharing copywrited works on any of those 4 networks (IF NOT MORE) you're chances are just as good as the ones already fingered for infringement.

What can you do about it? Well, I have been thinking of a concept that I believe could stand good ground in the fight against the RIAA. I already mailed boycott-riaa.com via the contact page and requested the oppurtunity to post my idea as an article. If you are an independent programmer and would like to hear further information about this idea feel free to contact me.

negatyve[at]cox[dot]net

Good advice on the proxy CODE . I'm sure some of us haven't given that much thought. (Just checked mine!)
BTW , glad to see I aint the only "OLD GUY" around here !
As always , keep up the good work.

help anyway I can
WABBITMAN

THIS IS THE WAY TO GET BACK AT THE RIAA.
E-mail your congressman and senator at house.gov and senate.gov. This will take you to their individual website so you can e-mail them. Do not say anything you may later regret. I would imagine many of the representatives are not that savy on this issue, SO EDUCATE THEM!!! If enough of you e-mail you will get their attention. Protests help but get a congressman or senator on your side and they are GOLD!

Take note House bill HR 2517, the proposal to make it a Felony to download music. CNN (a RIAA toadie) was gloating on getting this passed the other day. They are that confident.

Yeah, even someone with a rudimentary knowledge of tools, can scan the port people are using to get the IP of everyone posting on this kind of board...I am never where I am...
~code

as always, thanks wabbitman..
and this brings up another topic of privacy...there are all kinds of arseholes out ther trying to get inside your box (computer). There are lots of things going on in the public and private sector trying to make your info transparent...just some of these are "carnivore", also known as DCS1000, (wanna DOWNLOAD a pesonal edition of carnivore? check out a personal edition at http://www.rhizome.org/carnivore/
"CarnivorePE is inspired by DCS1000, a piece of software used by the FBI to perform electronic wiretaps. (Until recently, DCS1000 was known by its nickname "Carnivore.") Improving on the FBI software, CarnivorePE features new functionality including: artist-made diagnosic clients, remote access, full subject targetting, full data targetting, volume buffering, transport protocol filtering, and an open source software license. Carnivore is created by RSG."
"echelon", "magic lantern" and others. Total information awareness (now "Terror Information Awareness") run by John Poindexter, a convicted felon, tries to get as much information on each of us as possible.
For more on this, check out:
www.hereinreality.com/bigbrother.html

Also, the FBI is wanting congress to let them tap into internet phone calls using broadband , companies like Vonage offer broadband based phone calls. The FBI wants to get into your internet calls and "monitor" them, 'cause remember...it's for your "security"...yeah,Right! It's the new "Freedom Plus". TechTV has Suzanne Vega on and Leo asked her about her views on downloading MP3s. She said her niece downloads MP3s and she told her niece (Sachi) she was "stealing" from artists. Vega is a loser and is over the hill anyway...It strikes me that the ones who are most vocal against downloading are the ones who are clawing with old, discolored ragged nails trying to hold on to a career they never really had. I mean Suzanne Vega, hey, you're no Stones bitch~!

more reading on carnivore for those who are interested...
www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/carnivore/carnivore2.htm
www.fbi.gov/congress/congress00/kerr072400.htm
http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress00/kerr090600.htm

A proxy server is designed to provide user anomity from the receiver of information and/or provide business' a firewall like layer to prevent and monitor what websites their employees visit. However, if you're doing basic websurfing, a proxy does nothing for you except slow you down.

There is no way to port scan a user to see what websites he's visited, as there is no way to port scan a webserver and see who's visted it.

When you connect to and from a system, your computer makes a sort of "information tunnel" where data is exchanged. There is no way for an outside variable (riaa or anyone for that matter) to scan your ip address or the webserver with any security utility to uncover information that is in transit between you and another computer.

Carnivore does exist, however it's not a software package, it's an independent computer. The computer is set up at the service provider level, between their servers and whatever pipe they're using to connect out. Carnivore is used as a packet filter; it takes the packets coming from the isp's servers and filters them for flagged information. That may sound very scary, and I agree that I don't sit too comfortably on the subject, but the FBI is a law enforcement agency, and as such must act within the law. Meaning, information coming from you can not be filtered unless a warrent has been issued. Even though I agree that it could be used beyond the law, the information collected from a user who's being tapped illegally would ammount to much of nothing in the court system. It's pretty much a phone tap (which has been used for years by law enforcement), but it taps internet transmissions instead.

Echelon is another story all together. The United States denies the existance of Echelon even though Austrailia and the United Kingdom have both admited to harvesting data via Echelon. Echelon is a large network of information sharing technology. It operates by monitoring radio, sattelite, and internet tranmissions (the channels most everyone uses to transfer all transmissions). It's common knowledge among those who know of Echelon that it can monitor most every transmission world wide, not all, but most.

Echelon is opperated by select individuals in the CIA and the NSA, not domestic law enforcement. It's serious spy shit to say the least, but unless you're a serious political player or you're plotting wide spread terrorism, Echelon will not affect your file sharing.

Another way your information may be monitored is if someone has hacked your computer or a computer anywhere along your informations passage and installed a packet sniffer. A packet sniffer logs the packets the go to and from the computer it's installed on. This is illegal and is mostly used by the most extreamly of tech savy hackers as a way to catch user passwords on a network (ussually in hopes of gaining more access to the system they're trying to hack).

What I'm trying to establish here, is that your privacy is in no way "private", however, the only place the information you transfer from can be monitored is a "point of passage" (a computer along the route the information is passing). If you'd like to see this for yourself, open up a DOS terminal and at the prompt type "tracert www.boycott-riaa.com" (without the "'s of course) and you'll get a list of all the computers your information passes through before it hits this website. A proxy will do NOTHING for protecting your privacy when posting on a message board besides open up more points of passage for your information to travel. It is very unlikely for the RIAA to use hackers to monitor packets to and from where you're sending information, if they wanted to know if you were posting here, or any message board they'd just use a half assed method such as sending a suppena to your ISP.

I wouldn't be fearful just yet, however I wouldn't be surprised if there were laws in order already to take advantage of the information harvested by the Carnivore and Echelon systems on a more "average computer user" level than they opperate now.

If you've followed me so far, congratulations; you just learned something new. If not, just smile and nod your head and pay attention to your federal legislation. It's not the technology that's scary, it's the law that enables the technology to be used against you that's truely frightening.

DOWNLOAD KAZAA+++ i have it./. it works great. and I say FUCK RIAA... im downloading ur shit.. what u gonna do now, through a college student in jail.. I DARE U.. and when u fail.. i will sue you for puntive damages in the BILLIONS!!!!!!

Another story...it looks like the devil just hired another demon: Mitch Bainwol was hired as the new head of RIAA. He is a top person in the GOP. As quoting yahoo, http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u =/washpost/20030729/tc_washpost/a61208_2003ju l29

"Hilary Rosen had close ties to the Democratic Party, but that turns out to be not so useful now. ... " as well as "'The Washington Post today said the hiring reflects the RIAA's "desire to win increased copyright protections from the GOP-controlled Congress.'"

Thats right folks. it looks like riaa couldnt get anywhere wif the democrates, and they realized that the devil [riaa] needed to make a pack wif another devil [GOP] to screw everyone else over. But hey, doesnt that what Satan does? makes everyone else's life a living-hell? Tell the riaa, besides to go FUCK THEMSELVES... to read the damn Bible, and even more the new testament. They will find they have very simular traits to Satan.

RIAA...GO BACK TO HELL!!!!!!!![hopefulling getting raped by the pope on ur way]

Sorry for this is SOOOO long.. BUT i well just about guarantee [NOT LIABLE FOR PUNITIVE DAMAGES!] that this clears up and helps you.



ok y'all i know i just posted a message a little while ago. but i kept on reading the article and i then read another article that was linked to it. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/washpost/20030729/tc_washpost/a61208_2003jul29

that was the yahoo article.. if it didnt work then goto yahoo news and type in the search for RIAA..and click on the title "gop lobbyist elevated to top of riaa's charts" from 29 july 2003.

Read on to the "tracking of pirates" part and click on the link to the BBC. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3104281.stm

You will find this article very interesting. What got me is where they said "...BayTSP has collected all this information, the copyright holder can use the Digital Millennium Copyright Act DMCA to force an internet service provider (ISP) to reveal who is on that particular IP address. "

[sorry if this seems weird.. im just goign through it as im typing]
I am looking at the Digital Millennium Copy Right 1998...

well im looking through it and so far.. i have yet to find anything that would allow anyone to go into a personal computer to get information on you. which by the way sounds a lot liek the spyware that is downloaded wif out us know..ie gator..which is illegal. [well legal until they give it to someone else (i think)]

ok i found a couple things.


Sec. 1201. Circumvention of copyright protection systems

`(a) VIOLATIONS REGARDING CIRCUMVENTION OF TECHNOLOGICAL MEASURES- (1)(A) No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title. The prohibition contained in the preceding sentence shall take effect at the end of the 2-year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this chapter.

SAME SECTION
`(e) LAW ENFORCEMENT, INTELLIGENCE, AND OTHER GOVERNMENT ACTIVITIES- This section does not prohibit any lawfully authorized investigative, protective, information security, or intelligence activity of an officer, agent, or employee of the United States, a State, or a political subdivision of a State, or a person acting pursuant to a contract with the United States, a State, or a political subdivision of a State. For purposes of this subsection, the term `information security' means activities carried out in order to identify and address the vulnerabilities of a government computer, computer system, or computer network.

This is very important:
`(f) REVERSE ENGINEERING- (1) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (a)(1)(A), a person who has lawfully obtained the right to use a copy of a computer program may circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a particular portion of that program for the sole purpose of identifying and analyzing those elements of the program that are necessary to achieve interoperability [the ability of programs to share stuff] of an independently created computer program with other programs, and that have not previously been readily available to the person engaging in the circumvention, to the extent any such acts of identification and analysis do not constitute infringement under this title.

`(2) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsections (a)(2) and (b), a person may develop and employ technological means to circumvent a technological measure, or to circumvent protection afforded by a technological measure, in order to enable the identification and analysis under paragraph (1), or for the purpose of enabling interoperability of an independently created computer program with other programs, if such means are necessary to achieve such interoperability, to the extent that doing so does not constitute infringement under this title.

`(3) The information acquired through the acts permitted under paragraph (1), and the means permitted under paragraph (2), may be made available to others if the person referred to in paragraph (1) or (2), as the case may be, provides such information or means solely for the purpose of enabling interoperability of an independently created computer program with other programs, and to the extent that doing so does not constitute infringement under this title or violate applicable law other than this section.
`(4) For purposes of this subsection, the term `interoperability' means the ability of computer programs to exchange information, and of such programs mutually to use the information which has been exchanged.

now if im still up to par with law... i still have yet to see where they get the idea that they can search ur computer. May I remind all of you that we do have a law that protects us from illegal search and seizure.

`(j) SECURITY TESTING-

`(1) DEFINITION- For purposes of this subsection, the term `security testing' means accessing a computer, computer system, or computer network, solely for the purpose of good faith testing, investigating, or correcting, a security flaw or vulnerability, with the authorization of the owner or operator of such computer, computer system, or computer network.

There is a lot of stuff about security of computers as in governmetn, but this is only to address vulnerabilities, really nothing yet about the RIAA hireing hackers, which in itself is an illegal term mind you.

if i were you..id read section 512...

its now talking about how to subpoena, still yet to find where it is legal for hackers

here we go, Section 302 refers to the Title 17, chp 1, section 117 of the US Code,
[if i read this right, it means that copyright laws do not hold on inferior data, and mp3 is an inferior data stream to that of CD]
a) Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy. -
Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided:
(1) that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine and that it is used in no other manner, or
(2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful.

I am now reading the US Code Title 17, is all about copyrights. READ THIS! i knwo it might take a long time, but u might seriously find something

as reading this title, it uses the word "fixes" when refering to media. My understanding is that "fixes" as in chpt 11 sec 1101 part (3) I believe this refers to the original, and not a changed format, but i could be wrong...also section 405 of the DMCA is an abriviated version of title 17 of the US CODE.. read!!!

well Title V of the DMCA deal with the original designs.

Sec. 1302. Designs not subject to protection
`Protection under this chapter shall not be available for a design that is--
`(1) not original;
Sec. 1303. Revisions, adaptations, and rearrangements
`Protection for a design under this chapter shall be available notwithstanding the employment in the design of subject matter excluded from protection under section 1302 if the design is a substantial revision, adaptation, or rearrangement of such subject matter. Such protection shall be independent of any subsisting protection in subject matter employed in the design, and shall not be construed as securing any right to subject matter excluded from protection under this chapter or as extending any subsisting protection under this chapter.

Ok and the end.

Thats it folks. Gone through the entire Digital Media Copyright Act 1998 and found not one damn thing about someone who hacks, and that word by the way, is an ILLEGAL term, onto your computer to look around so to speak. So basicaly, THEY ARE FULL OF SHIT! and they know it, that is why they use the term, "hacking". Now onto the Patriot Act, the act that takes away our freedom.

let me just say starting out..this is all bullshit..i mean the first title section 2, they write in that congress condems discrimination against arab and muslim americans. i mean thats how fuked up this is.. for them to put it into a bill
(6) Many Arab Americans and Muslim Americans have acted heroically during the attacks on the United States, including Mohammed Salman Hamdani, a 23-year-old New Yorker of Pakistani descent, who is believed to have gone to the World Trade Center to offer rescue assistance and is now missing.

you really got to read Title 17 and 18 of the US Code. The Patriot Act redefined a lot, but the jist is that only the government can spy on you, and no one else. This includes hacking. I have no idea if i said this or not, but the term hacking, besides pertaining to a taxi cab, and according to dictionary.com, "One who uses programming skills to gain illegal access to a computer network or file."

so basicaly ya... no one, save the government, can look into your files. Its in everywhere in Title 18 chpt 1, in all sections.

FOLKS...WE'RE BEING FUKED WITH. THEY ARE ILLEGALY PERSUEING THIS. THIS IS EVEN NOW MORE FUKED UP!

just read the Patriot Act, DMCA, Titles 17 and 18 of the US CODE, most websites offering the US Code will give you a brief description of the chapters and sections.

There is really nothing more to say. Other than what these pple are doing is ILLEGAL and ill be honest... i would think it is pretty close to espianoge which is very very highly illegal and TREASON!!... HEHE RIAA IS USING TREASON TO GET U!!!!

I am picking this one article because it seems to have a lot of comments, and I hope people read this. Even surching further into US law, i find even more evidence of what these people [RIAA and their minion] are doing is illegal.

We have a very good Constitution, as in protecting us from our government. One of these such rules, besides freedom of speech, is Admendment IV.
The Illegal Search ans Seizure.

Now this pertains to law enforcement, but as you will see, will pretain to anyone.

You all know the law, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Now what the RIAA is doing, is using private firms that hack [illegal term] into a computer to get their information. This right away should sound off alarms. As was stated inthe above post, no where in any law in the USA states that someone can hack into a computer, save the government. Well the RIAA is not using the government. This is simply obvious to me, that this now goes way beyond just being illegal. It now goes way beyond a civil suit. This is a private firm trying to derail our own rights. The government hates competing to take away our rights so they are jumping in on the band wagon. There are so many laws that the RIAA and its demons have are currently breaking. While, technicaly, we have broken NONE! MPEG is NOT the original format that a CD was in. Therefore Copyright laws do not pertain. Why do u think u have to convert your mp3 files to wave if you want to make a CD [note a CD that does not use mp3 technology] or also when you copy a cd onto your computer, most programs convert the files to mp3. While mp3 sound better, the data stream is inferior to that of a wav file which is a CD.

Its like if I copyrighted Celsius and you convert my temperature from 0 degres C to 32F, and even though it is still temperature, I cannot sue you because it is totaly different. As mp3 vs wav is totaly different.

My thing is this...know what the hell your doing before you do it. Actions speak louder than words. And i think we got that message long ago when RIAA tried to do this shit. Now it is our turn.

If a computer is a private network, like mine is, and has stored electronic communications, and ANYONE hacks in, they have created a felony under USC TITLE 18,Part 1, Chapter 121, Sec. 2701...the language of that is as follows:
USC TITLE 18, PART 1,

CHAPTER 21

Sec. 2701. - Unlawful access to stored communications


(a) Offense. -

Except as provided in subsection (c) of this section whoever -

(1)

intentionally accesses without authorization a facility through which an electronic communication service is provided; or

(2)

intentionally exceeds an authorization to access that facility;


and thereby obtains, alters, or prevents authorized access to a wire or electronic communication while it is in electronic storage in such system shall be punished as provided in subsection (b) of this section.

(b) Punishment. -

The punishment for an offense under subsection (a) of this section is -

(1)

if the offense is committed for purposes of commercial advantage, malicious destruction or damage, or private commercial gain -

(A)

a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than one year, or both, in the case of a first offense under this subparagraph; and

(B)

a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than two years, or both, for any subsequent offense under this subparagraph; and

(2)

a fine under this title or imprisonment for not more than six months, or both, in any other case.

(c) Exceptions. -

Subsection (a) of this section does not apply with respect to conduct authorized -

(1)

by the person or entity providing a wire or electronic communications service;

(2)

by a user of that service with respect to a communication of or intended for that user; or

(3)

in section 2703, 2704 or 2518 of this title
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I'd like to point out something.

When thinking KaZaA vs KaZaA Lite, if you use the NEW K-Lite++ it becomes harder for them to track you. A bot on a P2P network is still limited to the protocol it's running on. That protocol is being used by the RIAA since they can grab a list of files on someone's computer. K-Lite++ kindly gives you an option to disable this. This means that should the RIAA try to see what files you're sharing, they come up empty-handed.

I also find it hillarious that they're focusing more on Kazaa. Coming from the 'old school' of filesharing, I'd have thought they'd try to shut down IRC file swapping. If you know how to handle yourself on IRC, you can find more better quality MP3s there than you ever could on Kazaa. The key is KNOW how to HANDLE yourself. This means... all you d00dspeek teeniebabies need to learn how to spell.

appropriate comments from Dr. Strangelove...(Replace the word commie with RIAA)
speaking about the lawsuits...
"Well, I've been to one worlds fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a set of earphones."

"Your Commie(RIAA) has no regard for human life. Not even his own."
--General Ripper
on Kazaa:
"I don't think it's quite fair to condemn a whole program because of a single slip-up."
--General Turgidson
On our need for proper media coverage:
"Gee, I wish we had one of them doomsday machines."
--General Turgidson

On the boycott and denying the RIAA our money...
"I do deny them my essence."

On a message to Cary:
"I think you're some kind of deviated prevert. I think General Ripper found out about your preversion, and that you were organizing some kind of mutiny of preverts. Now move!"
--Colonel Guano

--Major Kong
on our mission:
I want you to remember one thing, the folks back home is a-countin' on you and by golly, we ain't about to let 'em down. I tell you something else, if this thing turns out to be half as important as I figure it just might be, I'd say that you're all in line for some important promotions and personal citations when this thing's over with. That goes for ever' last one of you regardless of your race, color or your creed. Now let's get this thing on the hump -- we got some flyin' to do."
--Major Kong

With all these "spiders" and bots from BayTSP and others , I think it's high time we open up a giant can o'whoop-ass in the form of RAID on 'em.
btw Dr. Strangelove cooooool.

jolie1, The RIAA is not going to HACK you to gain any information. The DMCA allows the RIAA to suppena private information from your service provider when they have evidence you are committing copyright infringement.

The time is coming everyone. I just want to say g'luck to everyone else who is gonna be out there on saturday.

Tip of the hat,
Captain C

ummm negatyve... did u read the article? have u even read the other posts? ya u gotta read before u just say stuff...

General Ripper asking some tool to quit cancelling his download:

In the name of Her Majesty and the Continental Congress, get over here and feed me this song, boy. The RIAA's coming.