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MPAA COMMERCIAL 2NITE!
Posted by FolkTom Barger in on July 25, 2003 at 8:31 PM



Tonight on all networks at 8:00 pm is the massive rollout of the MPAA Respect Copyright education commercial.

Someone Tivo this bitch (directive?) and we'll have Irixx's mashup all over the world in 24 hours.

This will be a once only TV exclusive; after that, in every movie theater til death us do part.

Regal Entertainment (an Anshutz monopoly)has over 6000 screens and has for some time been showing 30 minutes of commercials before the feature.

The first day that Mann Theaters attempted this, two lawsuits were filed. The issue is to force exhibitors to publish real start times in the newspaper.

I,for one, wouldn't object if people talked on their cel phones continuously or threw popcorn bags and sticky Coke syrup at the screen.

This happened with the million dollar Marines recruitment ad, which was hastily withdrawn.

Tells us in no uncertain terms that movie executives do not deign to attend public movie theaters and actually watch the endless sequels crap they produce. Clueless.


User Comments

IntermediateRemye
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 8:48 PM
I swear I'll get a supersoaker, fill it with coke syrup, not mixed, but the full strength shit, and empty it at the screen if I find that crap at a movie I wanna see. Non-violence aside,the worst they can do is throw me out and not refund my money, at which point I can sue!
ttmmm
DMemberk4dwi
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 9:10 PM
just yell out BULLSHIT and leave loudly. then ask to see the manager and get a refund for having to sit through propoganda (sp?)!
DMemberwegikrmw4aeuf
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 9:19 PM
Maybe we should start boycotting movie's now since their starting this shit.
DMemberdook
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 9:28 PM
I see enough commercials at home. The last thing I want is to see more at the movies. I havent been back since last year when I seen a car commercial before the show. That just shows they only care about the money. Someone had to actualy sit down and negotiate this to get it on the screen. Pathetic! And now the RIAA and MPAA start their garbage.
DMemberSideShow-Dis...
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 9:53 PM
I'm already boycotting the MPAA. I haven't been to a movie in almost 2 years! In those 2 years, they have put out like 5 decent movies, and all of them I saw FOR FREE on my sisters FREE satelite. LOL Fuck the RIAA and MPAA BOTH!
Intermediatekneo24
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 9:57 PM
I was watching Fox at eight and didn't see any mpaa commercials. Funny how the TV stations in my area never play these commercials.
DMemberpetehoganwppc
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 10:41 PM
Here we go again ,Boy this gives me memories of the 1980's Sony betamax case from Jack V's MPAA. look what happend there. he lost.hahahahaha.

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AdvancedTheSherminator
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 10:42 PM
k4dwi is right on. People always cause scenes in the movies. Hell, last year I cracked a chair kicking a kid cuz he wouldn't stop running his shitty mouth.

Everybody head to the movies.. when the commericial is ending, simply yell "BULLSHIT" and leave. Then do it again the next weekend.

Maybe it'll catch on.

I don't care if I'm there with my girlfriend, I'll yell it as soon as I see it.

I PROMISE things like this catch on. Enough people clapped when the white house blew during Independence Day right? That didn't just happen one day. A few people started it.

Review:

1. Go to movies
2. See commercial
3. At correct time, tastefully shout "BULL-SHIT!"
4. Leave, get refund
5. Repeat.
AdvancedTheSherminator
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 11:03 PM
Off the topic of this article:

August 1st is approaching. The process of emailing various representatives can be a pain. Anybody willing to find some direct email addresses, so instead of playing "find the politician" online, we can just email them?

This site may be a good start if you want to know who to email: http://open-gov.media.mit.edu/

I want to make sure, if nothing else, that we all accomplish our goal next week and open some eyes.
DMemberDemonOfTheFall
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 12:46 AM
Movie theaters piss me off enough as it is. Most of the security guards are real assholes. It might be worth the time it takes to download movies in order to avoid having to sit through these commercials.
DMemberwegikrmw4aeuf
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 2:44 AM
Hey look at what I just found out I didn't even know about it "Stealth P2P network hides inside Kazaa" at http://news.com.com/2100-1023-873181.html check it out.
DMembermarkemark
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 3:56 AM
You guy's fucking whine too much. Yeah sure I'm all about destroying the RIAA, and MPAA and all that, but I work at a movie theatre, and if I were to see that kind of shit, (such things as obssesive messyness, or just plain dickeness) I would woop some ass, I tell you what. We post our movie times as when the actuall movie and trailers start, not when the commercials start. So why don't you try this; don't go into the theatre untill the actuall start time? Then you won't have to put up with the bullshit propaganda, and at the same time not be total Dick's!, I swear I have to deal with shitheads like you every fucking day!

*Ok maybe I wouldn't "woop some ass" but I'd be damn pissed.
DMemberdakota81
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 4:34 AM
markemark hit it spot on; you guys really do whine too much.

Squirt the screen with coke syrup? It'll only make the entire theatre pissed off at _you_, nothing else.

Hate the commercials? Don't enter the theatre until the movie begins, or leave to grab a tub of popcorn.

Hate the security guards? They probably hate you too; just be a normal person & don't do anything you shouldn't be doing.

Haven't been in a theatre for two years? You're really missing out, so much so I _almost_ feel sorry for you.
DMembertasadar24
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 4:41 AM
I don't think I've ever seen a Movie go 10 minutes over the start time without starting.

And also, Markemark, Movie Theatres aren't so spotless. Have you ever been to a movie where it screwed up? Did they give you cash or a single use ticket for they're theatre for *select screens*?

One more thing. The other day I went to see T3 because I was really bored. The movie started with no sound. We missed the first 5 minutes of dialogue that I'm pretty sure was important. A Theatre employee says they're going to restart the movie, guess what, they didn't. The sound came back and they weren't going to restart the movie.
DMemberDemonOfTheFall
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 4:53 AM
You can't stereotype all theaters as being either good or bad. There's theaters that do start on time, and there's ones that start 20 minutes late (unfortunatly, it seems like many are going to the latter kind). I know that not all theaters are run by asshles (even thought the one nearest me is unfortunately) and I didn't mean to suggest that all people who work in the theaters are pricks, just trying to make a point that some movie theaters piss me off sometimes. Sorry to point out the obvious, just trying to clarify what I said.
DMemberdakota81
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 4:56 AM
Please. Have anti-smoking commercials accomplished anything? Have anti-drug commercials accomplished anything? Why get worked up over something as silly as an anti-p2p add?
DMemberDemonOfTheFall
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 5:03 AM
They probably wouldn't, but the thing is that there are people who don't really understand what p2p software is like and if they're getting biased info from the MPAA, they would be more likely to vote against it. There probably really isn't anything to worry about, and you're right that drug and smoking commercials don't really work, but with vast opposition to p2p, bad exposure would just make the situation worse.
DMemberMaxedoutPayne
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 6:04 AM
yeah sure come in late, get a shitty seat behind some fucking redneck that laughs at the seemless plot holes in the film. Its bull shit, when I go to the movies early which I have to in order to fight a seat against some stupid low I.Q.ed teenager, I watch crap!!!! stupid endorsmants and more brainwashing telling you "GOOD" "BAD" "WATCH" "GO FOR MATERIALISM, ITS GROOVY" not that we see that everywhere though, but there has to be some escape from these high powered marketing sluts!!! when I went to see Willard, I wanted to see willard, not a update on production of tomb raider 2 and how they got her boobs extra larger, or a tasteless promo for that bastard creation the hulk ---"buy the game" "buy the ticket" "sell your soul to Universal" "BUY" "BUY" " OR DIE" for god sakes, we fucking buy the RIAA's and MPAA's stuff or view it and they come after us renegade, this sounds like they are playing god with the "don't bite the hand that feeds you" scenario. First thing we must fo is 1. kill carsen daily or however its spelled, bomb the RIAA's computer mainframes or crash them, then we set pee wee herman free from dail on those faulty charges, then we get OJ Simpson the Juice and we destroy communism in america, then china. and don't tell me I'm pro usa, I believe that bush is only there to do something his daddy diddn't do, wheres the weapons you fucking retard!!! oh yeah heres another thing, how come the good presidants always get killed??? I rest my case...
AdvancedTheSherminator
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 10:57 AM
"We post our movie times as when the actuall movie and trailers start, not when the commercials start"

Right. Stop doing it. It's stupid and annoying.

Also, if you're going to tell us we whine too much, you shouldn't do it by complaining.

"Please. Have anti-smoking commercials accomplished anything?"

Smoking is basically illegal in Boston now. My college campus is now smoke free. In CA and HI it is the same as Boston. No smoking indoors.

Stop embarassing yourselves.


"Haven't been in a theatre for two years? You're really missing out"

You both act like because someone mentioned movies, that this is boycott mpaa.com. It's not. Also, there's not much to miss in theatres. Remakes of old crap (hulk, xmen, pearl harbor, titanic.. yadda yadda) that's already been seen, and really bad comedies.

Thanks for your comments.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 11:05 AM
Thanks to the Sherminator for the link. I saw a brief clip of Cary $herman on TechTV. Man, he looks so gay (and not in a good way) with those big collagen filled looking lips..what a jerkoff!
ANYWAY!!!!....
You know, we have some of the most articulate and best thinking posters on any boards,and when I post late on a topic, I feel like most of what I would say has already been said. That said, everyone is right.

When I was younger, you didn't have to sit through a bunch of commercials for Joe Boxer underwear,coke, and everything, before you got to see the coming trailers (more ads, this one for other movies). You didn't pay for the privilege of seeing their commercials, hell, why do we get TV free that has commercials, and pay to see them at the movies? Wanna REALLY free the MPAA and RIAA out? OK, at LEAST for August (a big movie month), let's pledge not to go see any movies or anyone buy any CDs during that one month, as an obvious and clear reaction to what the two bunchesa are doing this month...We can use the old Hegellian Dialect on them as well, problem,reaction,solution. Problem, they are criminal arseholes. Reaction, we keep money from you. Solution..they better stop what they are doing.

It's not like if you don't see the movie or buy the CD this month it will disappear. It will be around and cheaper next month when they can't unload product. By the way, there is a class action lawsuit filed about the commercials being shown before movies...
http://www.nomovieads.com/

Now,some serious thoughts and a rant about what we can do,should do, and how to turn this trend of attacking citizens around...

We are not being given adequate coverage, and will not receive balanced reporting of our side. As everyone so properly said, we are dealing with the media, who are in an incestuous relationship with all aspects of the entertainment industry. We are in a country that, when the bush league prez sees his rating falling faster than stock in Sony corp, "miraculously", the iraqi brothers of tweedledum and tweedledee, get found and killed. And, when they post their pictures, you look at the first picture, the one of Qusay, on the picture left/(his right) along the cheek/eye line, it is clear that picture was doctored, and you don't have to be an adobe photoshop wiz to see it. They could have just as well shaved too dead panda bears and said..."yup, this is them". Now,(I'm going on a rant now)...history teaches us that English copyright law, started around 400 years ago as a result of the media moguls (printing press owners) greed, combined with the government(king) desire to control free speech. I kinda see this tradition is just rolling along 4 centuries later here. I imagine one of the biggest headaches of the gov now is that what was a government project (Arpanet) which became the internet, got out of gov control. It was only the involvement of college people that the military needed for technical assistance, that let civils get their hands on this protocol. If you only had a few media moguls controlling most of the entertainment and "news" like Rupert Murdock (from Australia) then the gov could control what people hear,see, and think. Hence the push to change FCC rules to let Clear Channel buy up everything. The internet is like the Wild West. They are trying to control P2P in the guise of fighting "piracy" (Avast me hearty, where is me patch), but the problem for them is that there are lots of alternative things out there that people can freely exchange, like the documentaries by Alex Jones, David Icke, and more, that attempt to give us the non-party line about things.

In the past, I've dealt with these politicos, usually you actually interface with their assistants and aides, but people like Hatch have an agenda, and most of the time, it involves Hatch,not the people he allegedly represents. There is more "one hand washes the other" in Washington DC than at an Obsessive Compulsive sufferer convention. More and more, people in polls have expressed that they don't trust what the main network news tries to stuff down their throats. News is managed, plain and simple. Look at the Lacy Peterson (or petersen) stuff. Do we really think that, in the whole world, this was the only story that was really important? It's what they wanted us to think about. In magic, you have a basic tool called misdirection. In philosophy, there is the so-called Hegellian Dialect. You control people through problem, reaction,solution. You convince them of a serious problem (all this piracy supports the evil terrorists just like drug taking supports terrorists, and driving SUVs supports terrorists,and we need to take away your civil liberites under the Patriot Act to fight terrorists) get their reaction (oooh,I'm scared of terrorists) and have the solution...Patriot Act, DMCA, and on and on.

We have tremendous power and they know it. They will do everything they can to fragment us and promote interfaction fighting and disagreement. All the money for the RIAA comes from the public. All the money for the government, comes from the people. The gov does not create weath, it sits atop the population like a giant leech, sucking what it can from the body politic. The media does the same. One Russian leader said religion was the opiate of the masses. He was wrong, entertainment is. And governments since Rome have known that when things are bad in the country and outside the country, you misdirect their attention with "bread and circuses" or now, cheetos and Big Brother. As a side note, isn't it interesting that we have this "reality" show called "Big Brother" where people live in a house, have intrigues and turn on each other voting against each other, and that money is finally given to the last one there? It associates something good coming from being the darling of Big Brother. Also, notice the other shows where you have people being watched by cameras during their day. Of course, this is entertainment, and couldn't subliminally get us used to be being watched. Around the country, more and more cameras are being silently placed to watch public areas. There is a move toward digitizing everything (for easy assimilation into databases and database interface) from high def TVs, to the so-called "digital check act" which was recentlyd debated in Congress (and shown in CSPAN) Think about all these bills that are being introduced and the bizarre nature of them. Of course, we have the Patriot Act I in place, and before long, Patriot Act II (already leaked onto the net and already agreed that it is being moved toward a vote) will be law, but how about Conyers and Berman trying to make file trading a felony?
Felons can come under provisions of the Patriot Act (both I and II) and they can rob you of any constitutional rights once you are covered under those provisions. Mass criminalization by the DMCA, and assorted bills, what is the purpose? We already have the largest population of people in prison in the world. Overcrowding is a serious problem, especially in Texas.

The government has , in its heart of hearts, a very poor opinion of the public. We are the "great unwashed" to them. They have an aristocratic view as serfs and peasants. We have a president who was voted against by the popular vote. In Texas, their governor keeps trying to shove redistricting down the throats of the voters over and over through special sessions, even though, in public hearings, the voters have vehemently and angrily said they don't want it. Especially, by Hispanic-Americans who know that the attempt is to get them represented by people who don't care about their concerns (the dilution of Hispanic-American representation).

The government tries to keep us focussed on other issues, and prays we don't start acting and voting as one.
You can bet, that if we start coalescing as a formidable, motivated unit, there will be a national story like another strike by "terrorists" that will take over the news and redirect people's attention.
To see what our government actually had plans for at one time, look at :
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods. html Here is a brief quote:
"Operation Northwoods called for a war in which many patriotic Americans and innocent Cubans would die senseless deaths, all to satisfy the egos of twisted generals back in Washington, safe in their taxpayer financed homes and limousines.

One idea seriously considered involved the launch of John Glenn, the first American to orbit the earth. On February 20,1962, Glenn was to lift off from Cape Canaveral, Florida, on his historic journey. The flight was to carry the banner of America's virtues of truth, freedom, and democracy into orbit high over the planet. But Lemnitzer and his Chiefs had a different idea. They proposed to Lansdale that, should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, "the objective is to provide irrevocable proof that . . . the fault lies with the Communists et al Cuba [sic.]"

Look on Google for "operation northwoods".

Also, how many have kept up with the various other movements to monitor what we are doing , like the RFID chips (radio frequency idenfication)

http://www.nocards.org

Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but you have to look at these disparate, bizarre,draconian movements by the gov and the media (two big controllers of what we can do legally and what we choose to do "freely"). Media and government shape culture.

A good link that presents documentation about this stuff is:
http://www.inforwars.com
http://www.prisonplanet.com
http://www.infowars.net (mirror)

Look where we are. We are in serious economic problems with an expanding national debt, and bush is giving money away like water. We are in undeclared wars and now, sending troops to liberia. Bush has been said to have a 63 country hit list. And, our civil liberties are being whittled away with acts and bills right and left, turning almost anything into a crime. I have also heard the gov has scheduled a constitutional convention at which, they could conceivably rewrite the constititution, and yes, if they did, you could lose ALL constutional rights, since they are words on paper (although we are supposed to be endowed with unalienable rights, they could pen them away to all intents and purposes...you could have the right to be free to pursue life and liberty in a jail cell).

I am really concerned about this.
The only thing that must occur for evil to triumph is for good men (and women) to do nothing. Those who would give up a measure of liberty in exchange for security, deserve neither (Franklin).

Our forefathers would be terrified and sickened to see what is happening to our laws and to the copyright and trademark systems. Copyright law, which is supposed to encourage and protect creation, has now become a weapon of intimidation by the media whores.

The thing the media and gov fear most is that we all start working together, that we demand the media quit hiding this issue, and that we continue exposing the evil on the Net, and to our friends and loved ones. They only have the power we allow them to have through our silence and apathy. It's time to put salt on the leeches my brothers and sisters. Their treachery , like vampires, fear the light of day and exposure to the searing heat of the truth.

Fight the good fight and become informed and involved. They need to hear the march of 200 million feet heading toward the voting box and the empty sound of no money buying their crap in hollywood. We already have the power, now let's use it!

Peace out!
BOYCOTTING AND BANNING RIAA/MPAA/AND OTHERS
REGISTERED AND READY TO VOTE
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 11:07 AM
typo alert..I meant to say "Wanna really freak them out", not free them out..I guess I have freedom on the brain.
Code~
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 11:19 AM
They wanna F^CK with US? OK...you know what a beautiful sight in August is?
An empty theatre on Sunday, and an Empty record store. I was going to the movies today, well guess, what, we cancelled our plans due to this crap, and that's two seats I'm taking away from them!
I know someone who's job is doing promo work for one of the biggies...one of the big 5. This friend is obviously stressed of late...
we are already hurting them and they haven't publically admitted it...sales are down...let's really shove it home.
Just say no to any movie or record at least for the month of August...
tell em "feel this in your pocketbook"
...oh yeah, here's some interesting links on clear channel..
http://www.evilsite.org/evil/Clear%20Channel%20Communications/

http://www.nzmusic.com/topic.cfm?i=4060

http://www.clearchannelbites.freeservers.com/favorite_links.html

http://www.livingreflections.com/blog/000960.php
Love and peace to all those who resist the evil...bankrupt the bastards!
IntermediatetheHERMlT
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 12:18 PM
I've been boycotting movies that have RIAA earnings tied to the soundtrack of the picture. But I'm just a freak like that.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 1:19 PM
theHERMIT..you're not a freak..you're a patriot..and hopefully, will be in the majority before the end of August..
props to you !
DMemberM1
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 1:37 PM
You people need a reality check. This is not a pro-piracy website.

You see, unlike the RIAA, the MPAA actually does take substantial losses from piracy. Could you imagine making a $100 million dollar movie and only making back half of your money?

And, they are also extremely fair in the pricing of DVD movies. I gladly pay around $20 for something that cost $80 million to make. It's not like the RIAA's scheme of $20 for a $1.50 CD.

They aren't the RIAA people. And if you dimwits are so against people trying to protect their profit margins, go live in a communist nation!
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 2:02 PM
Freedom of speech is great isn't it.
Number one, boycotting is American. An industry that moves against its own potential customers needs to be put out of business and people need NOT to patronize evil businesses. If they abstain, unless it is government sponsored, it falls of its own weight...it's a little thing we call "Free Enterprise"/ Keynesian economics in action (http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/KeynesianEconomics.html ).
Instead of patriots being forced to leave our country, the people who support the RIAA and MPAA need to leave if anyone does.
I never download movies, and previously, my wife and I would go see a new movie every week. No MORE! At least I will keep our money from going into the greedy bastards pockets~!
BOYCOTT THE BASTARDS! BANKRUPT THE BASTARDS! REGISTERED AND READY TO VOTE~!
Hey, it's all 1s and zeros!
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 2:06 PM
Piracy...hmmm, isn't Lars of Metallica descended from the Vikings, also known as Wolves of the Sea, also known as the Scourge for raping and pillaging the people along the Coasts of England?
They gave rise to the Normans, who further screwed over people in England..and parts of France.
DMemberseraphielx
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 2:10 PM
hey cw if im a patriot can i run around with a hachet a f^ck up some mpaa/riaa
a$$

sorry couldn't rezist
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 2:13 PM
lol...high five seraphielx
Duh, I didn't know I was a dimwit and I need to leave the country and go to a communist one...
Hey M1, hold your breath till I get back...will just be a few, getting my ticket to "Amerika" right now...don't worry if you turn blue, it's part of the flag colors bro...it'll be ok...
brb , will go see a couple of movies too,...so hang on :)) (Very Happy))) Right!
Intermediatekneo24
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 3:34 PM
M1, there's no reason why movies have to cost so much to make. No movie needs all of those fancy special effects. Sure, they look nice, but they aren't needed.

Furthermore, the MPAA is just as bad as the RIAA as far as pushing draconian laws go. They can protect their profit margin all they want, but they sure as hell don't fucking deserve it.
DMemberFadedInTheLight
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 8:00 PM
1min and counting
DMemberFadedInTheLight
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 9:04 PM
was i the only one who didn't see it?
Intermediatekneo24
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 9:34 PM
FadeinTheLight, I think it was supposed to air last night. I didn't see it then, and I certainly didn't see it tonight.
Intermediatekneo24
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 9:39 PM
Funny, five minutes after I posted my last comment, I go downstairs to get a drink, and on the TV I see the commercial. It's a very stupid commercial.

Look, if those people want to support a dieing business model, they deserve to go down in flames with them.
DMemberBrentMainXP
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 9:47 PM
Just download the movies...
DMemberuserm1909
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 9:55 PM
Well now I'm sitting here kikcing myself. Guess who deleted 4 GIGS of movies off of her drive after seeing that stupid commercial? Luckily a friend of mine stopped me before I decided to delete the mp3s (yanno, 'cause piracy "is teh bad OMG!"). I like that whole "Don't buy a cd or go to a movie in august" thing. I can find whatever movies I want on Kazaa and/or BitTorrent sites anyway, 's it's all good. CodeWarrior, Right-frickin'-on. Do you have an email address?
DMemberdjcozmikx
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 10:22 PM
If I PAID to see a movie why the hell should I have to watch an ad telling me not to download them?
IntermediateNiceGuy2003
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 2:37 AM
Well, I'll take time later to read all these replies, but I can say that I got a good laugh out of that commercial. The guy that can't pay for his glasses. What the Hell does that have to do with downloading a movie? He works at a flippin' movie store probably making $6 an hour. If he's so worried about his glasses, maybe he should get another job. And exactly how much do they have to pay the fire-safety guy? Odds are he's making more than the movie store sap. And the sound technician? Well, ok, I concede her point. She's the only one with a college degree.

And the poor popcorn vendor. Won't get to sell over-priced popcorn just 'cause one person downloads a movie. Listen, you saps, the last time I went to a theater, it was wall to wall people so don't give me this bullshit that everyone and their mom is downloading movies.

You wanna know the truth? I've downloaded only ONE movie in my whole life. And it took me most of a day on a DSL line, then two days to encode it to burn to a CD (it was an older computer). The only reason I did is 'cause my bitch of an ex-girlfriend didn't wanna go see it.

It's like I told my mom, it's all about control and money. She's constantly afraid that they'll bust down the door any moment. But I just laugh and tell her it's all talk. If the RIAA sends their Gestapo after me, they'll me my friend the Louisville Slugger.
DMemberdjcozmikx
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 3:07 AM
Seriously

I went to the movie this other night and the line was so long. I guess them getting 8 dollars for my movie ticket isn't enough to fill their greedy little pockets.

Sorry Mr. Valentini, I don't feel like making your Ferrari payment this month.

So you know what? FUCK THE MPAA and the RIAA. They are nothing more then a bunch of greedy little spoiled brats, who have nothing better to do then make criminals out of their very own customers.

I'm tired of being alienated for doing nothing more then supporting your industry. I have seen hundreds of movies in my life, and I have purchased hundreds of albums, and I guess that wasn't enough.
DMemberviperpa33s
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 3:57 AM
My mom and dad are in there 60's and my mom says to me the other day that you can't download music anymore. I said you can still download music, you just have to be more descreet about it. Then my mom and dad proceeded to ask me what the big hype was about the lawsuits. I gave them one reason was people were tired of paying $18 for a cd for 1 or 2 songs.

They proceded to tell me how back in there days when they had 45's there was 1 good song on 1 side and 1 crappy song on the other. Back then you just had to pay for 2 songs, now you have to buy a whole darn cd. Both my mom and dad agreed that buying a cd is a ripoff.

The moral of the story is whether your young or old, we can all agree on that the RIAA rips us off of our hard earned money. The walls are starting to close in on the RIAA and soon they will history.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 9:56 AM
Viper, you're right, and another thing was that on top of that, way back when, you had to buy these little yellow circular things called adapters to be able to play 45s (the ones with one song on one side and one on another) to play the darn things. Come to think of it...that reminds me of a time I bought a John Lennon 45...on the other side was Yoko Ono just friggin' SCREAMING something for the whole "song"...talk about your ripoff...so, they've been rippin' us off for about 37 years that I'm aware of....
"and so it goes" -Kurt Vonnegut
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 10:34 AM
this brings up a great point, that people have been talking about on this board, but I don't know if anything has been done. Someone (sorry I don't remember who, cause I would give props to the one that said it) mentioned we need a PAC (political action committe). I think we need to do this, and go even farther. I believe, "conservatively speaking" there are MILLIONS of people who are concerned with our issues. You have allegedly 60 million users of P2P, and usually, you have around 4 million people on Kazaa (that of course is internationally). All in all, with the bad will the RIAA is going to generate, we definitely are talking about a sizeable portion of the electorate that will be thinking on this issue. If we can organize a bit more, and send out exploratory feelers to some of the front runners, we can see who is at least making signs of support for us. In the past, I've started a grassroots campaign when some legislation was being sent on the process nationally . It was totally grassroots, and we were up against some big names (such as Orrin Hatch)...we won! Now, one thing I learned was this. When you handwrite a letter to a congressman or rep., the aides who get it, assess the amount of sentiment in the voters back home, by multiplying this by 50, thinking there are 50 people back home who are too friggin' lazy to write, but will vote that way. Xeroxed letters are not as effective, and for those whose handwriting is like mine (next to impossible to read), you can generate it from your computer/printer, but sign it with a pen or pencil to give it that personal touch. We need to get rolling NOW on this. I hope this helps, and I will be posting more on this later in all the threads if folks don't mind.
Love and Peace..
~code~
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 1:21 PM
One note of clarification.
I've had friends in bands in the past trying to get that big break...the record deal with a major label. These were hard working people, working a day job to support their efforts as musicians. Our effort is not to hurt any struggling musicians who really give a damn about their fans and their art. I wish any hard working, good hearted musician much success. Music has always been one of the most positive things in my life. But, this war is not about that and never was, nor ever will be. It's about the "suits" like $herman, and H. Rosen, and the arsehole, bought and paid politicians, who are in it like leeches, growing fat off the blood and sweat of hard working Americans. They have screwed the REAL copyright holders like Willie Nelson for decades. They screwed over the Blues and early rockers. And, for decades, have put out products where one song is decent, and the rest is just schlock filler. Now, the RIAA has done, the worst thing a company can do...sue thousands of their customers and try to turn them into felons. And, per the musicbiz article, they don't care if the public turns against them or not. Where the f^ck do they think the money comes from? Do they think it flows like manna from on high? No, it's from kids working at MacDonald's, kids working in factories, kids doing phone tech support, selling shoes...hard working , tax paying Americans. Not friggin' criminals. I say, let's do some serious auditing of their books...then we'll see who the felons are! No, the American public is not composed of millions of petty felons...they are what makes this country worth are damn, cause the smell of the politicians and big business would make this smell like a toilet if not for the honest people like you and me. Frivilous lawsuits in the thousands...if you or I did that, they would not only be thrown out, but the judge would bar us from making any more and sanction our lawyer for doing the work. But, I guess my naivete gets the better of me. I used to live in a country where you thought judges were honest and the cops were there to help, and big business was honest in accounting.
Check out
http://www.judicialwatch.org
I don't live there now. I live in a country where the people are sent to wars around the world, the debt grows larger daily, civil rights are being stamped on, the gov wants everyone to tattle on everyone else (TIPS) where the gov wants to watch and document everything you say or do (Total Information Awareness..now "Terror Information Awareness)...
Forty years ago, I would never have believed that we would get here. I remember reading Brave New World and 1984, and thinking how crazy, that could never happen. Now though, it is happening, and I am scared, no shit.
I am scared because the country my dad fought for, and died in a shitty Veterans hospital, died too some time ago, and never got a decent burial and very few mourners,and not even the courtesy of an obituary. Sure, that country had its health problems, in fact, for two hundred years it had chronic ailments, but a cancer took over in the 1950s. That cancer was called McCarthyism...a modern witchhunt..trying to turn honest citizens into felons on the basis of word of mouth and insinuations and greedy aspirations.

My forefathers were here to welcome the Pilgrims, they were here long before Jamestown. I can recall the commercial where the Native American on a horse sheds a single tear for what was happening to the environment.

I honestly believe that everything good and sacred about this country is under a full fledged attack. I'm not just talking about P2P, or corruption in gov, or outsourcing of our jobs overseas, or kids getting killed in wars...i'm talking about a plague spreading across this land where people don't give a shit anymore.
The only thing that has to happen for evil to win is for good people to do nothing and apathy and the grasping for security and safety is rampant.
As Franklin said, those who would trade a little freedom for security, deserve neither.

We have a president that said there is such a thing as too much freedom, who, while he lived in Austin, had the DPS arrest people for protesting on the sidewalk. We have a president that lied to the people. We have one sending us into wars, without Congress declaring one. The last war that was a declared war by Congress was WWII, and look what happened in Korea and Nam.
Korea is still at war with us.

I don't like the way our country and our world is headed. It is becoming more mean spirited and dangerous all the time. And, people feel helpless to change things. The majority voted for Gore, and the Supreme Court gave us Bush, and put its blessing on him.

I know many on this board may not be religious. For those who are , be you Buddhist, Taoist,Catholic,Mormon,Baptist, Shinto, Presbyterian, Methodist,Ba' hai, or whatever, please pray or meditate for something to happen to turn things around. For atheists, please do what you can to help.

I honestly believe that if we don't do something, we are headed for living in a country, and a world (because the evil is spreading) that will make Nazi Germany look like Utopia.

I'm sorry for the rant everyone. I love you all, but I am really concerned and worried and just wanted to vent I guess...
Peace-Out/code
DMemberlarbear
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 2:05 PM
code you have said everything i've wanted to say but couldn't get to my keyboards. my folks are in their early 50's and have taught me the truth about 'nam long before all the stuff i've seen on tv that generation made their voice heard about the voting age, they made it known that for every 1 you silence 10 more will show up the numbers need to be seen we can't hide behind our pcs we need to show our faces and ask them what are going to do?if we could get as many of us in one place to express our views as faces not words on a monitor then what can they do? we still have the right to protest and demonstrate right? i think thats they only way because our politicans are being paid off to vote for or against bills. it's not about what the majority wants anymore it's about who has the most cash. but the jails can't handle 4 million. i think if we all let ourselves be seen in peaceful demonstrations around the country then they will know how serious we are.
AdvancedTheSherminator
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 2:55 PM
"but the jails can't handle 4 million"
There's closer to 100 million sharing files in the U.S. alone.
DMemberlarbear
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 3:37 PM
good i want them all to show up
DMembercyd
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 7:45 PM
The Halliburton Curtain

When did America become complacent and cease to care?
Just sittin’ there in our La-Z-Boy chairs while activism becomes rare.
I thought the 60’s taught us that we can do it if we dare; that we can lay bare
The lions in their lair and expose the unfair. Did the 90’s tear
The heart from our drive to keep the faith alive? We need to get aware!


'Cuz we're flirtin' with Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Christmas for certain.
The masses are hurtin' not learnin' it's Halliburton behind the gas pipeline in the dirt and
The New Iron Curtain that began back with Kuwait. Wait! Why do we implicate
The bearded ones? They're just bait, but if we bite, mankind's fate will be sealed
At a rate whereby it's too late to vacate the path leading to checkmate.


The masses are sated, and married to their hate ‘cuz they remember the date
9/11 but don't know why. They just know they’ll stand by while the Bush regime tries
To let Saddam fry so they can prop up their guy and get a piece of the energy pie;
Meanwhile we spy and enforce no fly zones not recognized by Iraq with airstrikes.
Who here tonight is willing to die for a purpose which perpetuates the lie just so we'll all still buy stock in Enron? Not I.


'Cuz we're flirtin' with Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Ramadan for certain.
The masses are hurtin' not learnin' it's Halliburton behind the gas pipeline in the dirt and
The New Iron Curtain that began back with Kuwait. Wait! Why do we implicate
The bearded ones? They're just bait, but if we bite, mankind's fate will be sealed
At a rate whereby it's too late to vacate the path leading to checkmate.


A grand replacement to sticking hands in places we don’t understand is smoothing tears
From the face of the downtrodden man left to waste away in our homeland. Who here on hand
is willing to stand, walk hand in hand out of Afghanistan; look Bush (the presidential also-ran) in the face
and Show him that his God preaches grace and faith in His plan; and it’s not our place to use their land
As our military base to chase the Taliban - that this is not how the human race should be ran?
I am.

DMembercyd
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 7:52 PM
i'm working on one about the riaa/mpaa.
you are so right code. since we are a capitalistic country, and have reduced all of the values, principles, and beliefs of the country into the almighty dollar, the most patriotic thing we can do is...

a. buy whatever the networks tell me to buy.
b. hurry up and spend so we can get our economy going again. Bush said that's what i should do, and dog gone it that's what i'm going to do!
c. spend money with conscience, learning what can be learned about how that company affects the greater world around it, and supporting those which accomplish things with which i agree
d. buy japanese!

well the tv hasn't told me which answer is right yet, so until then, i'm just going to go with "c."

until then, keep fighting the good fight, together we can accomplish anything.
DMemberchoppervonwh...
Date: July 28, 2003 @ 8:05 AM
nobody is going to rally or make a million person march against this simply because they don't want to be "outed". meaning they don't want anyone else to know that they download music. the simplest way to let the RIAA know we mean business is to simply stop buying the music altogether. no music buying for the month of august? count me in!! since they want to be all about the money then hit them where it hurts the most.
DMemberuserm1909
Date: July 28, 2003 @ 10:33 AM
choppervonwh... : Same. There aren't any good cds coming out this month anyway (and a good chunk of the music out now is BS). I've got better things to spend my money on (yanno, like food and groceries and clothes). Woo, boycott!
DMemberMaxedoutPayne
Date: July 30, 2003 @ 5:32 AM
I say we start casterating!!!!
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