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Does The RIAA/MPAA Hate America?
Posted by IntermediateWilliam Brown in on July 25, 2003 at 6:03 PM



In a recent article, I posed the question as to whether precedent from foreign countries as to judicial process, tactical methodology etc., were factors in the insidious strategy by the so-called Recording Industry Association of America to enslave consumers through their flagrant abuse of the legal system and their witch-hunt against certain computer users and their families, thus driving us even further down the road to outright tyranny and totalitarianism.

Now, with the equally odious Motion Picture Association of “America” joining in on the piling-on bandwagon, with the closer and closer concentration of the media into fewer and fewer hands (and thus, with less and less voices being heard, and critics and opponents of the persecution, brainwashing and disenfranchisement strategy of the multinational entertainment-media complex being completely marginalized, if not outright ignored or silenced), another question in some corners is being heard:

Does the RIAA/MPAA Hate America?

This is raised, being as with respect to the MPAA side, several key Hollywood celebrities are openly and unapologetically of the left, most obviously manifested in their contempt for American values and mores, idol-style worship of world tyrants and despots (i.e. Harry Belafonte singing the praises of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro), and preferences of “foreign” cultures and customs to our own (such as Johnny Depp opting to live in France). Certain pundits, after all, have noted that one reason the “Hollywood left” loves Castro so much is because his long-standing hatred of America mirrors their own. Yet, quite a few figures in the music industry have also been likewise left-leaning (think the Dixie Chicks’ trashing of George W. Bush in concert, or Bono of U2 on his African tour with then-Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill, to give a few recent examples).

But given what the RIAA and MPAA have been pulling of late, it appears that based on their trashing, gutting and evisceration of various principles, safeguards, guarantees etc. written in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and various other documents brought to life by our Founding Fathers, and the degeneration of our judicial system into the equivalent of a kangaroo court with judges acting more and more like rubber stamps for the multinational entertainment-media complex’s rigid, exclusivist, set-in-concrete (as opposed to elastic) dictates, it seems that the brain trust of these respective alphabet-soup lobbies likewise hate America.

Consider these factoids:

  • Their ever-louder demands that Big Government dictate what gets put into our computers (i.e. TCPA, which is partly a misnomer as the mere presence of such a platform would indicate they don’t believe we can – or should – be trusted with anything digital). As the old saying goes, Big Government dictates on anything (goods or services) are characteristic of a socialist-based society, and anathema to anything having to do with the traditions of free enterprise and open competition.

  • Their subversion of the political process of compromise and public representation, as evidenced by their banning of groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) and Consumer Electronics Association (CEA) from so-called “debates” over their repressive police-state-style proposals. Obviously, they consider such groups an impediment to the realization of their goals. Sounds like how a Third World banana republic deals with differences of political opinion, dunnit?

  • It is also evident that the RIAA/MPAA have an overall contempt for the very democratic tradtions set forth in our Constitution. After all, democracy is a very messy, inefficient concept, with the potential to thwart their goals of absolute power and total domination. In contrast, in countries like Cuba, China, Sudan or Zimbabwe, justice is very efficient — all the ruler has to do is say you’re guilty, and you’re a dead duck.


Furthermore, the characterization of the RIAA/MPAA’s ulterior motives with respect to the future of new technology as “fascist” is more than appropriate; as the late founding father of Fascism, Italian dictator Benito Mussolini (the one who made the trains run on time, after all) put it himself, “Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism, because it is a merger of state and corporate power” (as quoted by Jim Hightower in The Hightower Lowdown newsletter, July 2003). Given the multinational entertainment-media complex’s buyoff of our politicians and judges (plus the buyoff by other equivalent special-interest groups, i.e. the trial lawyers’ lobby), Il Duce’s description is somewhat apt.


User Comments

Advancedthumbtack
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 6:10 PM
As always, right on target...w-b
DMemberwabbitman
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 6:33 PM
I find it such a sad statement cause it's so true. You hit the nail on the head.
WABBITMAN
DMemberscottjw
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 7:21 PM
A very poignant viewpoint... and from Willie Brown himself! (sorry I couldn't resist)
DMemberscottjw
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 7:24 PM
Oh and I'm talking about the blues guitarist... not the football player! : )
DMemberProtozoaPeet
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 7:28 PM
great article! is there any way we can increase the exposure of this? i.e. cnn or anything?
IntermediateW-B
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 7:33 PM
A suggestion: Try newsmax.com and see what happens.

And for the record . . . I'm of no relation to either individual.
DMembercauthon77
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 8:02 PM
I hate to use such a blatant example, but why is the RIAA starting to remind me of the "trade federation?" Americans are getting hit as they mock our system.

Good article, makes you think.
DMemberSideShow-Dis...
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 9:46 PM
So true, so true. It would take a blind man not to see how the corporations dictate the government. The money buys the politicians vote, the law enslaves the consumer, and the money goes back to the corporation that started it. Quite the vicious cycle. We are moving steadily to a police-state.
RockgdZiemann
Date: July 25, 2003 @ 9:58 PM
Great job. Well done.
DMemberDemonOfTheFall
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 12:55 AM
The RIAA doesn't care about the American peoplem, only about their money. Like many other corporations, they don't seem think anyone should be allowed to do anything unless the right people (them) are some how making money off of it
DMemberLitheon
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 1:31 AM
Someone said that the flyers for Aug 1 and 2 should just contain bullets. Well I think those three right there are the best you could use. How about amending the bullets a little so they can stand alone as a group and putting them on a flyer?
DMember420high
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 1:33 AM
riaa gets like $10 off each fuckin cd thats sold. they are worth billions and billions of dollars. yet they dont give a shit about payin the hard-workin artists out of their own money. riaa seems to think that the american people are goin to stop downloadin music with all these lawsuits. all riaa wants to do is bankrupt innocent people and put them in jail for gettin music. music has been free for thousands and thousands of years
DMemberphiberoptix
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 2:28 AM
You know if the RIAA really cared about music, they'd end these ludicrous lawsuits and put the money into something more worthwhile, such as afterschool music programs. But what would you expect from an organization that makes the girl scouts of america pay royalties for singing songs around campfires?
DMemberTheBone
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 2:42 AM
I did not read the article fully. I apoligize but I got to run. However, seems the title explains the body. I do not think they hate America but they would enjoy to run it. In a way were you would be watched every step of the way told what you should like and what your are not allowed to like. Seems more like RIAA would enjoy total rule.
Advancedgoldenpi
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 3:25 AM
Thebones right there. They like america. Nowhere else is money so powerful. They have lawyers who have mastered every trick of maniulateing the legal system. Its not that they dont like america, its just that they consider the basic princibles in the constitution beneath their notice.
DMembertasadar24
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 4:42 AM
Also, nowhere else are the populace so blind.
Intermediatesurfside6
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 9:38 AM
Isn't it great that we have a Representatives in congress that want to make it a felony (with prison time) to download music. While if I was to shoplift the same CD at a local store it would be a misdemeanor with probation. We have people like Rep. John Conyers in Michigan who write legislation to protect the hollywood types of the RIAA while good manufacturing jobs from his district are going overseas. Makes you wonder.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 10:48 AM
You know, we have some of the most articulate and best thinking posters on any boards,and when I post late on a topic, I feel like most of what I would say has already been said. That said, wabbitman and everyone is right. We are not being given adequate coverage, and will not receive balanced reporting of our side. As everyone so properly said, we are dealing with the media, who are in an incestuous relationship with all aspects of the entertainment industry. We are in a country that, when the bush league prez sees his rating falling faster than stock in Sony corp, "miraculously", the iraqi brothers of tweedledum and tweedledee, get found and killed. And, when they post their pictures, you look at the first picture, the one of Qusay, on the picture left/(his right) along the cheek/eye line, it is clear that picture was doctored, and you don't have to be an adobe photoshop wiz to see it. They could have just as well shaved too dead panda bears and said..."yup, this is them". Now,(I'm going on a rant now)...history teaches us that English copyright law, started around 400 years ago as a result of the media moguls (printing press owners) greed, combined with the government(king) desire to control free speech. I kinda see this tradition is just rolling along 4 centuries later here. I imagine one of the biggest headaches of the gov now is that what was a government project (Arpanet) which became the internet, got out of gov control. It was only the involvement of college people that the military needed for technical assistance, that let civils get their hands on this protocol. If you only had a few media moguls controlling most of the entertainment and "news" like Rupert Murdock (from Australia) then the gov could control what people hear,see, and think. Hence the push to change FCC rules to let Clear Channel buy up everything. The internet is like the Wild West. They are trying to control P2P in the guise of fighting "piracy" (Avast me hearty, where is me patch), but the problem for them is that there are lots of alternative things out there that people can freely exchange, like the documentaries by Alex Jones, David Icke, and more, that attempt to give us the non-party line about things.

In the past, I've dealt with these politicos, usually you actually interface with their assistants and aides, but people like Hatch have an agenda, and most of the time, it involves Hatch,not the people he allegedly represents. Their is more "one hand washes the other" in Washington DC than at an Obsessive Compulsive sufferer convention. More and more, people in polls have expressed that they don't trust what the main network news tries to stuff down their throats. News is managed, plain and simple. Look at the Lacy Peterson (or petersen) stuff. Do we really think that, in the whole world, this was the only story that was really important? It's what they wanted us to think about. In magic, you have a basic tool called misdirection. In philosophy, there is the so-called Hegellian Dialect. You control people through problem, reaction,solution. You convince them of a serious problem (all this piracy supports the evil terrorists just like drug taking supports terrorists, and driving SUVs supports terrorists,and we need to take away your civil liberites under the Patriot Act to fight terrorists) get their reaction (oooh,I'm scared of terrorists) and have the solution...Patriot Act, DMCA, and on and on.

We have tremendous power and they know it. They will do everything they can to fragment us and promote interfaction fighting and disagreement. All the money for the RIAA comes from the public. All the money for the government, comes from the people. The gov does not create weath, it sits atop the population like a giant leech, sucking what it can from the body politic. The media does the same. One Russian leader said religion was the opiate of the masses. He was wrong, entertainment is. And governments since Rome have known that when things are bad in the country and outside the country, you misdirect their attention with "bread and circuses" or now, cheetos and Big Brother. As a side note, isn't it interesting that we have this "reality" show called "Big Brother" where people live in a house, have intrigues and turn on each other voting against each other, and that money is finally given to the last one there? It associates something good coming from being the darling of Big Brother. Also, notice the other shows where you have people being watched by cameras during their day. Of course, this is entertainment, and couldn't subliminally get us used to be being watched. Around the country, more and more cameras are being silently placed to watch public areas. There is a move toward digitizing everything (for easy assimilation into databases and database interface) from high def TVs, to the so-called "digital check act" which was recentlyd debated in Congress (and shown in CSPAN) Think about all these bills that are being introduced and the bizarre nature of them. Of course, we have the Patriot Act I in place, and before long, Patriot Act II (already leaked onto the net and already agreed that it is being moved toward a vote) will be law, but how about Conyers and Berman trying to make file trading a felony?
Felons can come under provisions of the Patriot Act (both I and II) and they can rob you of any constitutional rights once you are covered under those provisions. Mass criminalization by the DMCA, and assorted bills, what is the purpose? We already have the largest population of people in prison in the world. Overcrowding is a serious problem, especially in Texas.

The government has , in its heart of hearts, a very poor opinion of the public. We are the "great unwashed" to them. They have an aristocratic view as serfs and peasants. We have a president who was voted against by the popular vote. In Texas, their governor keeps trying to shove redistricting down the throats of the voters over and over through special sessions, even though, in public hearings, the voters have vehemently and angrily said they don't want it. Especially, by Hispanic-Americans who know that the attempt is to get them represented by people who don't care about their concerns (the dilution of Hispanic-American representation).

The government tries to keep us focussed on other issues, and prays we don't start acting and voting as one.
You can bet, that if we start coalescing as a formidable, motivated unit, there will be a national story like another strike by "terrorists" that will take over the news and redirect people's attention.
To see what our government actually had plans for at one time, look at :
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods. html Here is a brief quote:
"Operation Northwoods called for a war in which many patriotic Americans and innocent Cubans would die senseless deaths, all to satisfy the egos of twisted generals back in Washington, safe in their taxpayer financed homes and limousines.

One idea seriously considered involved the launch of John Glenn, the first American to orbit the earth. On February 20,1962, Glenn was to lift off from Cape Canaveral, Florida, on his historic journey. The flight was to carry the banner of America's virtues of truth, freedom, and democracy into orbit high over the planet. But Lemnitzer and his Chiefs had a different idea. They proposed to Lansdale that, should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, "the objective is to provide irrevocable proof that . . . the fault lies with the Communists et al Cuba [sic.]"

Look on Google for "operation northwoods".

Also, how many have kept up with the various other movements to monitor what we are doing , like the RFID chips (radio frequency idenfication)

http://www.nocards.org

Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but you have to look at these disparate, bizarre,draconian movements by the gov and the media (two big controllers of what we can do legally and what we choose to do "freely"). Media and government shape culture.

A good link that presents documentation about this stuff is:
http://www.inforwars.com
http://www.prisonplanet.com
http://www.infowars.net (mirror)

Look where we are. We are in serious economic problems with an expanding national debt, and bush is giving money away like water. We are in undeclared wars and now, sending troops to liberia. Bush has been said to have a 63 country hit list. And, our civil liberties are being whittled away with acts and bills right and left, turning almost anything into a crime. I have also heard the gov has scheduled a constitutional convention at which, they could conceivably rewrite the constititution, and yes, if they did, you could lose ALL constutional rights, since they are words on paper (although we are supposed to be endowed with unalienable rights, they could pen them away to all intents and purposes...you could have the right to be free to pursue life and liberty in a jail cell).

I am really concerned about this.
The only thing that must occur for evil to triumph is for good men (and women) to do nothing. Those who would give up a measure of liberty in exchange for security, deserve neither (Franklin).

Our forefathers would be terrified and sickened to see what is happening to our laws and to the copyright and trademark systems. Copyright law, which is supposed to encourage and protect creation, has now become a weapon of intimidation by the media whores.

The thing the media and gov fear most is that we all start working together, that we demand the media quit hiding this issue, and that we continue exposing the evil on the Net, and to our friends and loved ones. They only have the power we allow them to have through our silence and apathy. It's time to put salt on the leeches my brothers and sisters. Their treachery , like vampires, fear the light of day and exposure to the searing heat of the truth.

Fight the good fight and become informed and involved. They need to hear the march of 200 million feet heading toward the voting box and the empty sound of no money buying their crap in hollywood. We already have the power, now let's use it!

Peace out!
BOYCOTTING AND BANNING RIAA/MPAA/AND OTHERS
REGISTERED AND READY TO VOTE
DMemberSpasmolytic
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 3:27 PM
Hollywood left? what a joke... the right/left are both attacking average Americans... Bush supports the RIAA... DOH!

http://www.legalnewswatch.com/news_189.html

this isn't a left/right issue... morons
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 3:37 PM
Spasmolytic is right ...well, not calling us morons.but he's right about the right v. left...it's right v. wrong and the public is in the right, not the RIAA. It does so happen most of the legislators with the "R" by their name (obviously indicating they are bought by the RIAA like H. Berman) are in the RIAA / MPAA pocket. But the problem is not only repub/neo-con in nature. But here is a good article to read (sorry, but I also posted it on another thread)
quote:
"Record Industry Will Accept Negative Publicity
Monday's edition of the Los Angeles Times took issue with this slash and burn tactic promised by the
R.I.A.A. saying the lawsuits could turn public opinion against record labels. Record executives who spoke
with MusicBiz say they don’t believe the public will turn against them and, if that happens, they don't care."
Let's make 'em care!
from http://www.musicbiz.com/faxblast/070103.pdf
IntermediatetheHERMlT
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 3:41 PM
WOW, a lot of intelligent argument!!!

2 words "ACCOPS", and "PDEA"
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 3:58 PM
message to RIAA...
" SAY GOODNIGHT GRACIE" channeled from George Burns
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 26, 2003 @ 9:35 PM
I was just thinking...since the toadies had their bots/spiders accessing the P2P networks...the P2P networks should do two things...first, have a signup advising new members that the MPAA, RIAA,BSA and their members,employees, and associates are not legally able to use the systems as their previous actions have violated TOS agreement, and this should also popup everytime a user starts a session...and also, they should borrow something from the free webpage and email providers, have an alphanumeric that is slanted and colored and all, which you must copy before logging in...since that is someth9ing bots can't do, it would force a human to do their bidding and hunt down all the files...but even if they found em, since they are logging on in violation of the terms of service agreement, they are violating Title 18 of federal law, by accessing stored electronic communications on a network without proper authority. They would lose every court case for lack of clean hands!
DMemberSpasmolytic
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 1:13 AM
haha sorry about that... i was in a bad mood because i was off to work in a half-hour =)
DMemberstanley23
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 2:24 AM
Music is nearly impossible to confine to the materialistic commune that many products are and the RIAA assumes it should be. I mean, consider the days before CD burners and search engines. Could you not sit around and listen to a friends CD, borrow it, etc. Though I'd like to think the RIAA has noble intentions in protecting its "hard earned" work, this isn't the case and end the end the artists and the people they are trying to reach will suffer. Damn the man.
Advancedgoldenpi
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 6:07 AM
Yes, one of the scariest things for the RIAA is the concept of disassociation, the way that digital information is completly independant of a physical medium. They built an industry based on selling first large plastic discs, then little plastic and aluminium discs. Now they are haveing to sell a produce which has no physical base, and as the population becomes more familier with computers they are starting to realise that. People get used to copying a file with a few clicks on a mouse and then are expected to pay for bits? The percieved value of the product goes down.
IntermediateW-B
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 11:59 AM
**The percieved[sic] value of the product goes down.**

A typical "conclusion" of those like the multinational entertainment-media complex that equate "value" with money.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 1:23 PM
One note of clarification.
I've had friends in bands in the past trying to get that big break...the record deal with a major label. These were hard working people, working a day job to support their efforts as musicians. Our effort is not to hurt any struggling musicians who really give a damn about their fans and their art. I wish any hard working, good hearted musician much success. Music has always been one of the most positive things in my life. But, this war is not about that and never was, nor ever will be. It's about the "suits" like $herman, and H. Rosen, and the arsehole, bought and paid politicians, who are in it like leeches, growing fat off the blood and sweat of hard working Americans. They have screwed the REAL copyright holders like Willie Nelson for decades. They screwed over the Blues and early rockers. And, for decades, have put out products where one song is decent, and the rest is just schlock filler. Now, the RIAA has done, the worst thing a company can do...sue thousands of their customers and try to turn them into felons. And, per the musicbiz article, they don't care if the public turns against them or not. Where the f^ck do they think the money comes from? Do they think it flows like manna from on high? No, it's from kids working at MacDonald's, kids working in factories, kids doing phone tech support, selling shoes...hard working , tax paying Americans. Not friggin' criminals. I say, let's do some serious auditing of their books...then we'll see who the felons are! No, the American public is not composed of millions of petty felons...they are what makes this country worth are damn, cause the smell of the politicians and big business would make this smell like a toilet if not for the honest people like you and me. Frivilous lawsuits in the thousands...if you or I did that, they would not only be thrown out, but the judge would bar us from making any more and sanction our lawyer for doing the work. But, I guess my naivete gets the better of me. I used to live in a country where you thought judges were honest and the cops were there to help, and big business was honest in accounting.
Check out
http://www.judicialwatch.org
I don't live there now. I live in a country where the people are sent to wars around the world, the debt grows larger daily, civil rights are being stamped on, the gov wants everyone to tattle on everyone else (TIPS) where the gov wants to watch and document everything you say or do (Total Information Awareness..now "Terror Information Awareness)...
Forty years ago, I would never have believed that we would get here. I remember reading Brave New World and 1984, and thinking how crazy, that could never happen. Now though, it is happening, and I am scared, no shit.
I am scared because the country my dad fought for, and died in a shitty Veterans hospital, died too some time ago, and never got a decent burial and very few mourners,and not even the courtesy of an obituary. Sure, that country had its health problems, in fact, for two hundred years it had chronic ailments, but a cancer took over in the 1950s. That cancer was called McCarthyism...a modern witchhunt..trying to turn honest citizens into felons on the basis of word of mouth and insinuations and greedy aspirations.

My forefathers were here to welcome the Pilgrims, they were here long before Jamestown. I can recall the commercial where the Native American on a horse sheds a single tear for what was happening to the environment.

I honestly believe that everything good and sacred about this country is under a full fledged attack. I'm not just talking about P2P, or corruption in gov, or outsourcing of our jobs overseas, or kids getting killed in wars...i'm talking about a plague spreading across this land where people don't give a shit anymore.
The only thing that has to happen for evil to win is for good people to do nothing and apathy and the grasping for security and safety is rampant.
As Franklin said, those who would trade a little freedom for security, deserve neither.

We have a president that said there is such a thing as too much freedom, who, while he lived in Austin, had the DPS arrest people for protesting on the sidewalk. We have a president that lied to the people. We have one sending us into wars, without Congress declaring one. The last war that was a declared war by Congress was WWII, and look what happened in Korea and Nam.
Korea is still at war with us.

I don't like the way our country and our world is headed. It is becoming more mean spirited and dangerous all the time. And, people feel helpless to change things. The majority voted for Gore, and the Supreme Court gave us Bush, and put its blessing on him.

I know many on this board may not be religious. For those who are , be you Buddhist, Taoist,Catholic,Mormon,Baptist, Shinto, Presbyterian, Methodist,Ba' hai, or whatever, please pray or meditate for something to happen to turn things around. For atheists, please do what you can to help.

I honestly believe that if we don't do something, we are headed for living in a country, and a world (because the evil is spreading) that will make Nazi Germany look like Utopia.

I'm sorry for the rant everyone. I love you all, but I am really concerned and worried and just wanted to vent I guess...
Peace-Out/code
DMemberIkedogg
Date: July 27, 2003 @ 2:39 PM
Hello Kitties, Ike Dogg here to give you the real deal. The idea sounds delicious. But, in reality its nasty as hell! For one, Any copywritten material being sold or played publicly must have a license issued by the owner. Which is...? you guessed it, the riaa. The riaa are not going to negotiate with you because you don't own anything. They are going to drag your azz in court and phuck you with no vaseline while the judge hold you down!
If this guy ideal would have been valid, believe me man... they would have done it already!! I have a "Real" file sharing business that will work like a charm & I won't need $2 million dollars to get started. It would be protected from the riaa or mpaa. First and foremost, if anybody starts this business ideal, I will say you got a Big problem on your hands! The ideal has been filed with the patent office of USA! OH YES! Don't steal from me muthafuckas! If you want to be apart of this "No Bullshitting" company, I have contact information at the end of this post.
In October of this year, congress will have the "Fair Use" bill on their desk to pass. So don't forget to contact them to pass it!

Here is my business:
It is illegal to share "a" file with more than one person. Right? Create a data base of users that have "legally" purchased music, movies or software. In this database you will keep the "barcode" number or the "store" receipt number of the legal purchases of everyone. When someone on the database wants to trade a file from someone who legally purchased music, movie or software item on the database. They would search through the database for a person that has this "LEGAL" material and send a request to trade.
Once the person receives this trade request, both parties email each other the legal original "receipt" number or "barcode" number of the legal purchases on both sides. That will GUARANTEE you are not trading illegally because no one has your files! You have to give each other permission and exchange digital receipts proving you got every file legally. A legal receipt would take up approximately 2k. It wouldn't be hard to build this kind of site, plus with the on going litigation from the riaa, people would jump on this quick.

The only down side to this type of trading is that once you trade your "legal receipt" of that music, file or software, you CANNOT offer it for sharing again unless you trade for it back using "LEGAL" receipts of course. This is cool, because once you used the shit you don't want it back anyway. Also, there will be renegades trading without "legal receipts." They will be greased up and poked by the RIAA for sure!

For the people who don't buy original shyt, I say don't worry! You can still trade files from individuals by trading your "OWN" bands music for a digital receipt of their music. You just have to make up your own serial number for your band's music to keep track of it. This would also be a great way for independents to keep track of their music like "soundscan!"

The riaa will try to argue this plan of mine, but I don't think they would win against this type of trading. Simply because, when you purchase music out of the store or net, it is "yours" not a lease or rental. Just like baseball cards. Its not illegal to trade cards is it? No! So by file sharers dealing one on one with each other, it totally destroys the riaa case about file sharing. These are legal transactions between 2 individuals with legal documentation to prove they both obtained legal rights to own the media they are trading. I would like to see them fight that!!! Am I a phuckin' genius or what?

I want all of you to read this 3 times, then put it all together in your mind. Try to picture what the site would look like and everything. I also want critics to try to find a hole in my ideal. First, people will say it will take too long to go through all the processes before you can download files. I say it could be as simple as a person sending an IM message. It will all depend how talented my programmers are.

Guys Im not as stupid as you look!

This is a business ideal of mine for about 1 year. I've copywritten the whole ideal 20 different ways!! So its next to impossible to bypass me! If you want a piece of this email me.

I've been looking for talented programmers to come aboard to help build this shyt. But for some reason most of them were lazy! I guess they don't want to be wealthy. Anyway, before I let loose my press release. Send your inquiries to KneeDeepInc@aol.com. If you are a talented programmer, web designer, marketing, Host Servers etc.. email me with your interest.
Advancedgoldenpi
Date: July 28, 2003 @ 3:50 AM
ikedogg: wouldn't work. It would only be legal if both sender and reciever have purchased the music, which rather defeats the purpose of the trade.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: July 28, 2003 @ 9:39 AM
yeah, GoldenPi is right...
"The best-laid schemes o' mice an' men
Gang aft agley,"

Robert Burns...To a Mouse, on Turning Her Up in Her Nest, With The Plough
DMemberShawnE3386
Date: July 28, 2003 @ 12:07 PM
The RIAA is the ultimate hypocrisy. They dedicate their lives to spewing the line "Piracy is evil, Musicians are starving because of you, Because of P2P I don't enough money for TP to wipe my ass, etc.", yet I'm willing to bet that at some point in their lives, they've taped a movie off TV instead of buying it. But wait! Isn't that..(shudder)...piracy?
YES IT IS! Anyone who thinks otherwise is simply lying to themselves. They have a perfect copy of the movie/show. Nobody profited from it because they didn't pay for it. Yet I'll double down that they'd spin it into some self-righteous pyscho-babble.
The RIAA/MPAA makes me want to puke, but I can't afford food because I just HAD to buy that 50 Cent CD at Wal-Mart for $17.99.
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