Posted by Jon Newton in on July 19, 2003 at 11:31 AM
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We foresee a sudden jump in PACER accounts.
The PACER Service Center is the Federal Judiciary's centralized registration, billing, and technical support center for electronic access to US District, Bankruptcy, and Appellate court records.
And it's the means by which anyone can find .pdf's of the subpoenas spewed out by the RIAA in Operation Nail 'Em All, under which it's using the US legal and enforcement systems - both funded by taxpayers, of course - to chase down and prosecute file sharers on behalf of its record label clients.
As you already know, RIAA lawyers Jenner & Block use 512h subpoenas to get the names of people they can then theaten and sue, targeting students because - they think - teenagers are more easily cowed than someone who's been around a while.
To use PACER either through dial-up service or the Net, you need a login and password and after that, you pay an access fee of $.07 per page. And if you open, or already have, an account, you can get to the DC dbase here.
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User Comments
sleestack
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Date: July 19, 2003 @ 11:34 AM
Everyone spread the word!!!
Download Kazaa Lite 2.4.0 from here:
http://www.k-lite.tk/
It has a built-in IP blocker so RIAA can't find you.
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newjon
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Date: July 19, 2003 @ 11:40 AM
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independentm...
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Date: July 19, 2003 @ 1:42 PM
I aint payin no 7 cents a page for NOTHING! And I SURE as hell aint payin no 99 cents to listen to a song!
Smells like a scam 2 me!
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IFeelFree
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Date: July 19, 2003 @ 2:03 PM
Independentm...
As I understand it, this service would allow you to find out whether or not you're going to be sued by the RIAA. Some people might want to know in advance.
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M1
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Date: July 19, 2003 @ 3:27 PM
I'd call it peace of mind. People who were dumb enough to share large amounts of copyrighted files could rest easier after not seeing their names on any subpoenas.
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SinisterX
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Date: July 19, 2003 @ 4:09 PM
I can't share anymore until I get a new machine. I am seeking to setup my own network and share every dam file I have. I am an adult so lets see if they come after me. They haven't yet. Boycott every dam label and spread the word. do not support the RIAA! Boycott for onw whole year.
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jack22181
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Date: July 19, 2003 @ 4:26 PM
HAHAH
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scayf
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Date: July 19, 2003 @ 7:12 PM
Let 'em sue. I'm a poor guy, so I'll have to sit it out in a Federal pen. It's gotta be better than Ramsey or Coffield...
Fuque the RIAA.
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Nortlander
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Date: July 19, 2003 @ 7:52 PM
You know, the RIAA is only concerned with the "illegal" sharing of copyrighted songs. They don't appear to care at all that p2p networks are used for other purposes.
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sinai
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Date: July 19, 2003 @ 8:23 PM
yup...like downloading copyrighted movies
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Bleargest
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Date: July 19, 2003 @ 9:18 PM
M1 get your facts straight before you fire off. If you read they are also sueing someone who is sharing 5 tracks, thats all, not 1000 not 1500, but 5. So thinking making your list smaller will protect ya is gonna get ya nailed. I would suggest educating yourself to bounce off of a few proxies say 10, lets see them trace that back.
In the end we will win!
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NiceGuy2003
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Date: July 19, 2003 @ 9:50 PM
I have a plan, but I'm going to need to get a job just to implement this plan. In the end, the RIAA won't be able to touch what I have in mind.
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JusticeForAll
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 1:13 AM
Doesn't shock me that they're mentioning sueing someone sharing 5 tracks-that's part of the RIAA's intimidation strategy. That's why they opted NOT to tell the mainstream (bribed) media which file sharers they intended to target. That way, the majority would feel safe-telling themselves 'I only have 600 files, so the RIAA won't be coming after me'. It's a psychological trick. It's not working. Also, it's telling that the RIAA tactics are failing because although they're filing subponeas left and right, they're already talking about being willing to make settlements-even though the cases haven't gone to court yet. Correct me if I'm wrong-but if they have the law on their side and file sharing is "illegal", why in hell would they be offering to settle before the cases even make it to court? Is it because if the RIAA uses the many dollars they have (and will need) to sue the American public that they will lose their cases AND their money? Are they afraid that (as a result of their foolish lawsuits) their true evil will be exposed to the mainstream American public-forever destroying any attempts of reconcilliation? Any House member that is backing the RIAA better be damned careful-like that Conyers (House member from my district that is working with another House member to create a bill that if passed would send file-sharers to jail.) He will not get my vote again. I will be spreading the word.
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goat1974
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 1:15 AM
Bleargest: From what I have read the five songs are quoted as a "represenative sample." To me this means that the person may have more than five songs and they many not. Granted five songs is miniscule, but we are dealing with the RIAA.
You used to be able to find email addys of RIAA folks on their site. I guess they got tired of the hate mail. What's wrong with telling them how you feel?
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MSoper
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 1:40 AM
Hi there gang!! I too support this cause and down with the riaa and its hench men!! I recently emailed my Reps. from the US Senate for their support in our cause and unfortunately, Lamar Smith is a representative from my state of Texas. When I read that he supported the riaa and that idiot from Utah. I sent him a nice email stating that I will be voting against him in 2004!!! Enough with the RIAA bullshit!! What they are doing is felony offenses!! Destruction of private Property and Invasion of Privacy. Violating our 4th admendment of the Bill of Rights. I have stopped about 4 to 5 yrs ago buying music cd's.
Anyway, its bad enough that they want to sue 60 million people in the united states, but stoop soo low as to go after kids, the heart and soul of our future!! Now that right there, RIAA, you can burn in hell!! BOYCOTT RIAA BASTARDS!! BOYCOTT AOL!! They both and sink like the Titanic and there will not be any help for their rescue. BURN RIAA BURN!!!
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Idontcareican
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 4:34 AM
Bankrupt the RIAA - represent yourself in court and offer a one dollar settlement. They are going to have to be really ready for a backlash if they put you in jail. What’s being on CNN MSNBC NBC CBS and all the others worth? I don’t know but do the time, write a book and get rich.
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CodeWarrior
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 10:53 AM
Hey, has there been any suggestion about starting a bluegrass defense fund for legal defenses of those targeted. Since there are millions of people using P2P, a couple of bucks times millions would be a considerable amount, and these folks are going to need legal representation.
Any thoughts>
BOYCOTT THE BASTARDS! BAN THE BASTARDS!
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theHERMlT
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 11:23 AM
I still urge everyone to stop sharing/downloading anything. Just tune out the tunes. While hiding behing ten proxy servers will probably protect you from an immediate lawsuit, it will not protect your right to privacy. The monsters out there will make privacy their next target, (and I think annailating privacy is the prime directive), and John Ashcroft will have his "Total Information Awareness Act". I believe that 5 US states have already started outlawing the use of a firewall. (I have notes...).
Every P2P user that is busted, as wrong as this action is, is one less voter changing the system.
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CodeWarrior
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 11:51 AM
Wouldn't be just awful if all these kids would were sued filed for bankruptcy? I mean, that would mean they couldn't get credit for seven years, but a judgement isn't worth much against someone who is bankrupt!
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vinylman
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 12:09 PM
Has anyone here gotten a PACER account? Perhaps one person could register and list the ISPs and people named in the subpoenas for all to see?
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hoser411
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 12:30 PM
Get your own PACER account. It's free as long as you don't accrue $10 in charges during a billing period.
A judgment is just like a student loan...You can't void it by declaring bankruptcy.
As soon as I read the article about the RIAA's enemies list, I called Time-Life and cancelled my DVD order. I told them exactly why--they're in the RIAA, and I'm boycotting. I ordered my no-RIAA bumper sticker. And I'll be waiting for a legal defense fund for the RIAA's victims to be established that I can contribute to.
Finally, if you're scared to share p2p, then do what I plan to do for now. Buy used CDs on Ebay, listen to them on your CD-RW (DON'T make a copy, for goodness sakes!), then sell them back on Ebay. Sort of a revolving library scheme. Imagine if everyone did this?!?! RIAA, you can't hold back the tides!
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CodeWarrior
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 1:26 PM
WHICH DEBTS ARE DISCHARGED IN BANKRUPTCY?
The most common debts that you may get rid of are:
(1) back rent
(2) utility bills
(3) some court judgments
(4) credit and charge card bills
(5) department store and gasoline company bills
(6) loans from family and friends
(7) newspaper and magazine subscriptions
(  legal, medical and accounting bills,
(9) most unsecured loans (e.g., debts for which there is no collateral)
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scayf
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 2:56 PM
Can't draw blood from a turnip.
Let 'em sue.
Fuque the RIAA.
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CodeWarrior
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 3:23 PM
to me, the suits of the RIAA are saying, we are very serious that you should not have our copyrighted music. i agree, i should not listen to your artists, should not buy their cds, nor have their music around me. thanks for enlighening me on what i should spend my money on. and thanks to hatch,conyers, and berman on reminding me of voting for the right people...not you unholy three.
BOYCOTT THE BASTARDS! BAN THE BASTARDS!
~REGISTERED AND READY 2 VOTE~
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StillNotBlac...
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 5:37 PM
As for the current situation concerning the RIAA, MPAA, and the congressmen that they grease the pockets of in dubious "Campaign Contributions", I say that it is a DIRECT ASSUALT on the American Populous! These congressional idiots fail to realize that it is We THe People that elect them to protect our rights gauranteed to us in the US Constitution (which seems to be increasingly utilized as Ass-Wipe for Congressmen and Senators alike), not to infringe upon our rights that our forfathers gave to us by directly, or indirectly, dipensing "Hollywood Justice" upon the mass populous with the frivolity of thier lawsuit-happy, narrow-minded lobbyist organizations! I support the efforts of Boycott-RIAA.com and shall not be purchasing music, motion pictures (either at the movies or on DVD/Video), or any merchandise pertaining to such persons and businesses that are members of the RIAA and the MPAA!
In addendum to this, I suggest that each member of Boycott-RIAA.com take time to print out, of have printed out, copies of the massive list of individuals, bands, and companies to be boycotted and hit the streets handing out fliers to all that will listen, and, go one step further by adding to that list the names of the congressmen/women from thier homestates that support the RIAA and the MPAA (and any such other organization that would directly attack the populous with ridiculous laws and litigation) to allow the knowlege that their Congressman/Woman has the intent of making them and thier children FELLONS!
We need to grab the RIAA and Congress by the balls and tow them around for a while as they have done to the general populous for years. If you do not believe that your rights are consistantly violated, read the US Constitution in full, then compare what it says to a great deal of the laws that have been allowed to pass throughout the years without the direst vote of the American People. I smell something fishy on Capitol Hill, guess what, the American Citizenry has been screwed!
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DamningEden
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 9:01 PM
Is this an international operation? I'm not even an American citizen, and I'm immensely pissed with the situation. I supported the music industry for years, and they turn around and pull shit like this. It's bullshit, it has to stop. If a couple million people stopped buy albums altogether, then we'd hear some real whining from the bastards. Then again, they'd probably continue to blame it on file sharing. Either way, give 'er shit, and keep fighting the good fight.
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CodeWarrior
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 9:20 PM
DamningEden- what we have seen is that other countries are getting on board in passing these DMCA like laws and going after people who are using P2P networks. Bad laws and tyrannical acts are like viruses, they have a habit of spreading. This is an issue we must all face and I really appreciate you bringing this up. The internet has made us a global community. These acts by the MPAA, RIAA and others, will be taken up by federal law enforcement in this country and others. This is not just about civil lawsuits. And, it is not just a movement against young folks. These are acts which target all citizens using the net. We MUST present a unified front and coordinate our actions globally. We must all hang together or hang separately.
Right on with the comments DamningEden and welcome to the fight!
BOYCOTT THE BASTARDS! BAN THE BASTARDS!
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DamningEden
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 9:37 PM
Hey, I try. I'm gonna hurt myself and take a look at Candian copyright laws to see where I stand. I'll see if I can't stir up some shit in the Great White North, we don't like being fucked with either
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goose16
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Date: July 20, 2003 @ 9:40 PM
I'm new to this site, so forgive me if this is has been covered elsewhere.
I've read several threads and something keeps sticking in my head about all this. If the RIAA and others think they are losing all this money to illegal downloads, how can someone like Brittany Spears (as much as I don't care for her music) be worth over $1 billion? I saw something on VH1 or E! about how she was worth all this money, but if she's losing all the money to the illegal downloads, how it the hell can she have that much money?
I think the artists, and industry in general, will make the money if they put out the products that sell to the most influential audience (teens, mostly). If they would put out a product (whether it is the song, the artist or just a persona of a person) that people are slightly interested in buying, they will. I know it's hard to market artists like new, more serious music like they do with people like Brittany Spears and Justin Timberlake, but that's part of being a business in an ever-changing marketplace.
I think if all the hoopla around the p2p file sharing were just about the artists making their money on the songs, just look at the amount of money Brittany and even Metallica bring in for their product from concerts, memorabelia, magazines, etc.
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kneo24
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Date: July 21, 2003 @ 11:54 AM
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kneo24
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Date: July 21, 2003 @ 11:56 AM
Doh! I posted in the wrong article. Oh well.
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DamningEden
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Date: July 21, 2003 @ 12:32 PM
OK, time for all you fellers in the Great White North to pitch in. Try to set up a street team at this site. The more support they can get on this issue, the better. If you do set one up, then be sure to spread the word, we need all the help we can get. The RIAA can't possibly defeat it's millions of disgruntled customers,can it? And if they want to play international hardball, then it's time for them to step up to the plate. Remember, make sure to let the RIAA know that it can suck it. Suck it long, and suck it hard.
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bulls-on-parade
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Date: July 21, 2003 @ 3:01 PM
Don't forget they are not only going after music but movies. The 1998 charter communications act includes movies...
I like how they say we are hurting the artists...actually we are helping them. By not buying their albums, posters, etc (through a boycott) we are not contributing to Britney and Eminem's coke habits or James Hetfield's alcoholism or Christina's whoring around...so they should be thanking us for keeping their puppets alive!!! VIVE LA RESTANCE!!!!!!
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IFeelFree
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Date: July 21, 2003 @ 5:24 PM
For now, the RIAA can only go after U.S. citizens. And they're only going after people who share files. So, it's important that all of our international friends keep sharing their files as much as possible. That way those of us in the U.S. who are nervous about sharing our files will have plenty of music to download. The RIAA will see that their strong-arm tactics are not having a significant impact on file sharing.
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DamningEden
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Date: July 21, 2003 @ 6:36 PM
Bulls-on-parade
Nice name, better band. And with our support or otherwise, Christina would still be whoring around.
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ScramJet0
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Date: July 21, 2003 @ 8:39 PM
I've read around today about how the RIAA wants to basically hack our computers and/or put viruses on them. I say lets fight fire with fire. Now I'm not saying I'm going to do this or you should go do this (just to cover my ass), but it wouldn't be all that bad to see someone hack RIAA.com and fuck those bastards right back.
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CodeWarrior
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Date: July 21, 2003 @ 9:22 PM
Not much to say today on this topic except to say that , for the next year, I will make certain I avoid giving any money to any company, artist, or service associated with the RIAA. Also, I think it would be a cool idea for a defense fund to be established to help whoever the RIAA has chosen to attack.
BOYCOTT THE BASTARDS! BAN THE BASTARDS!
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CodeWarrior
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Date: July 21, 2003 @ 9:37 PM
Oh yeah, I just wanted to reinforce everyone to remember the names of the jerkoffs in congress who are trying to take our right of privacy away...
John Conyers (R-Michigan) and Howard Berman (R-California).
Orrin Hatch (R-Utah)
Representative Lamar Smith (R-Texas)
and remember to lobby against the following legislation by contacting those who represent you...
The Piracy Deterrence and Education Act of 2003 HR 2517
Another anti-infringement bill, HR 2752
Consumer, and Computer Owner Protection and Security Act (ACCOPS)
These ASSHOLES are trying to throw up as many of these clone bills as possible, hoping the sheer number and different places of origin will allow some to slip through. Let your senators, representatives, governors, and every other politician know that we are vitally concerned with our civil rights and that these proposed bills ARE direct attacks on our liberties and constitutional rights and we will vote anyone out of office who sponsors this crap or goes along to get along. If they want to keep their office, they better keep their priorities straight...the voters should be their one priority. Get it straight or get out politicians!
BOYCOTT THE BASTARDS! BAN THE BASTARDS!
~REGISTERED AND READY TO VOTE RIGHT!~~~
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Draken
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Date: July 21, 2003 @ 10:09 PM
conyers.....i still can't believe that fool...*sigh* but anyway....
I still can not believe the RIAA is hurting theirselvs so bad, and then blaming us cause we don't want to spend $15+ on a new cd cause it only has 1 good song! if they were not a bunch of money grubing greedy little bitches that felt they had to use OUR legal system for their short commings *not being able to be the first on the block with the new Hummer H2* and they want to eat up MORE tax payers money in doing this, then i think the US Goverment should step up, junk the DCMA cause they had NO clue what they were getting into, and telling the RIAA we are shiping all of you to IRAQ for cannon fodder!
GET THOSE DAMN SILLY BASTARDS OUT OF THE COUNTRY I FOUGHT FOR!
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tom-skywalker
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Date: July 22, 2003 @ 4:31 AM
hey can the riaa only sue you if they sent you a warning on instant message or kazaa? i read somwhere that they had sent out warnings to people and are they mainly goin after people with popular artists like emenim?
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CodeWarrior
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Date: July 22, 2003 @ 8:16 AM
Even Michael Jackson is aghast about this criminalization of fans, and he said something that the RIAA is too stupid to get..
"It is the fans that drive the success of the music business." - Michael Jackson
BOYCOTT THE BASTARDS! BAN THE BASTARDS!
~REGISTERED AND READY TO VOTE RIGHT!~~~
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sweety12
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Date: July 24, 2003 @ 7:21 PM
how many files do you suspect will be the main target? i used to have 900... i downloaded stuff, burnt it for my friends, then never deleted them, but now i only have 36, and i'm slowly burning them off onto cds so i can delete kazaa, at least until this blows over. Also, do any of u guys have pacer? is it hard to understand? i registered, but i'm having a hard time figuring out what i want to search.. civil or criminal? it'd be civil, right? and what do you search? sorry, i'm not that good with computers, and i'm sorta freaked out about this whole law-suit issue.. i dont know what i'll do if i am sued.. i'm really scared.
thanks for the help...
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mykpfsu
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Date: July 28, 2003 @ 6:40 PM
Really dumb question...but... for anyone ywho knows how do you search the pacer system? The only thing I can come across is for party names which the username isn't listed. Email me the info if you would, thanks.
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