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Math Wiz Claims Piracy Solution
Posted by Bluegrassleflaw in on June 8, 2003 at 9:23 PM



http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-pirate8jun08,1,4236837.story?coll=la-headlines-business

Math Wiz Claims Piracy Solution

A software developer is set to unveil technology he dreamed up after
finding that visitors were copying from his Web museum's jukebox.

By Jon Healey, Times Staff Writer


When Internet users started ripping off songs from the online Museum of Musical Instruments, they angered the wrong guy: millionaire mathematician Hank Risan.

Risan's unorthodox museum is a Web site devoted to guitars and their role in music history, reflecting his personal interests as a collector, restorer and musician. The original version of the site boasted a virtual jukebox with thousands of songs from various musical eras and genres.

Then, early last year, the Recording Industry Assn. of America called to complain that Risan's site was letting users play songs on demand without the record labels' permission — a no-no under copyright law. Worse, visitors could copy songs with just a few clicks of a computer mouse.

Risan, who had used his computing skills to make a fortune in the financial markets in the 1970s, was mortified.

So he fought back.

He unplugged the site's music and, dipping into his sizable bank account, put together a team of 16 software engineers in Santa Cruz. After more than a year of research and development, his venture — called Music Public Broadcasting — has developed a set of products that it says can give record companies, Hollywood studios and other copyright owners unprecedented protection against piracy.

Risan's conversion from guitar collector to software peddler illustrates something important about the battle over online piracy: It's a fluid technological arms race, with innovations coming from unexpected places on both sides of the fight. Just as entrepreneurs around the globe exploit piracy to build their businesses, so too do clever programmers try to profit by developing ways to protect copyrighted works.

Naturally, other anti-piracy companies are skeptical about Music Public Broadcasting's claims, and it remains to be seen whether any of its products will make a dent in the piracy that's rampant on the Internet. The company has just started trying to sell its wares, and it has yet to announce any customers.

Risan's museum is expected to show off one piece of the technology next month when it launches an online radio service featuring songs from 160 different genres and time periods. The music will be transmitted in a manner that Risan says will defy digital recording on today's computers, something that the leading vendors of anti-piracy software haven't been able to do for other services.

The company also has been demonstrating products designed to deter copying of CDs and DVDs, promote file sharing without piracy and beef up existing protections on the labels' downloadable songs.

Many executives at the major record and movie companies say that though they're eager to use the Internet to distribute their works, they're daunted by the risk of piracy. They have kept pressing technology suppliers such as Microsoft Corp., Macrovision Corp. and RealNetworks Inc. for tools that are not only more effective but also more flexible.

Music Public Broadcasting is trying to capitalize on that demand.

"I was shocked at how easy it was to strip [electronic locks] off of copyrighted material," Risan said. Although many people have told him that piracy can't be stopped with software alone, he said, "That, to me, [says] Aha! I have a new challenge in life."

As he tells it, Risan's personal history is replete with self-imposed challenges and you're-not-going-to-believe-this experiences.

Risan (pronounced rih-ZAHN) says his fascination with music began when he was a toddler, sitting under the piano bench at his San Fernando Valley home while his mother played classical music and jazz. At age 15 he became an apprentice to a guitar maker in Los Angeles, who taught him how to build and repair instruments, and by 17 he'd started rounding up vintage Martin six-strings.

He also was a mathematical prodigy, drawn in particular to topology — a sophisticated approach to characterizing and understanding shapes in multi-dimensional space. This interest spilled over into biology in the mid-1970s while Risan was an undergraduate at UC Santa Cruz, where he studied such things as the topology of hemoglobin.

"He was among the most brilliant students that I ever had as an undergraduate," said Leo Ortiz, chairman of the university's ecology and evolutionary biology department. "He never ran out of gas."

Risan learned to use mainframe computers to power his research in math and biology, which he continued while seeking doctorates simultaneously at Santa Cruz and UC Berkeley. But a brief stint at the London School of Economics in the late 1970s prompted him to apply his computing skills in another arena: finding and capitalizing on patterns in financial markets.

Risan said he made and lost millions of dollars trading securities. He was 30 and comfortably in the black when he was severely injured while training for a bicycle race, which got him to slow down — briefly — and shift gears. He became a dealer in rare musical instruments, collecting, restoring and selling 19th and 20th century guitars.

The move paid off handsomely, as Risan proved adept at selling instruments at premium prices.

"He is a very flamboyant guy, and he does things with a level of style that I don't think is duplicated in the fretted-instrument industry," said Stanley Jay, president of Mandolin Bros. Ltd., another elite dealer of stringed instruments. "In this industry, to make yourself stand apart, you need to be self-promotional. And he does that extremely well."

Risan said the inspiration for the Museum of Musical Instruments was his desire to catalog and share his personal collection, which has grown to about 750 instruments, most of them guitars. The virtual galleries include photographs and essays about dozens of guitars, about 75% of which come from Risan's collection.

After launching the museum three years ago, Risan hired a company in Scotts Valley, Calif., to add a virtual jukebox to the site. "The system that was put in place, I was assured, was secure," he said.

He assumed the jukebox's songs couldn't be copied digitally because they were "streamed" to users, meaning that they arrived in small pieces that weren't meant to be stored on the computer. Those pieces also could be scrambled as they were transmitted from the Web site.

But as piracy experts are fond of saying, anything that can be played on a computer can be recorded, regardless of how it's protected. Encrypted streams and downloads must be unscrambled to be heard on a computer's speakers or shown on its screen. And there are several programs that can intercept music or video on its way to the speakers or screen after it's been unscrambled.

Microsoft tried to address the problem with a technology known as Secure Audio Path, which it built into two recent versions of the Windows software that runs personal computers. This technology is designed to stop an unscrambled audio file from going anywhere on a computer other than its speakers.

The main drawback is that only computers with Windows XP or Me can receive music that uses the Secure Audio Path technology. That's why none of the online music services are using it — they don't want to exclude the large part of their audience that uses Windows 98 and earlier programs.

Theory Into Practice



Risan drew on his mathematical skills to come up with a different approach to the problem of unauthorized recording. Drawing on a branch of topology known as network theory, Risan said he could look at the networks a computer uses to move data internally and "visualize how to protect the copyrighted material as it transfers through those networks."

The firm claims that its technology controls those pathways, letting copyright owners dictate what can and can't be copied. "We control pathways that don't even exist yet," Risan said.

Music Public Broadcasting uses the same basic approach to prevent CDs and DVDs from being copied, protect downloadable songs from piracy and deter music and movies from being copied through file-sharing networks without the copyright owners being compensated. In order for it to work, though, the company must put software in users' computers to control those internal networks. Risan acknowledged that consumers won't accept such controls unless they're allowed a reasonable amount of freedom, but he said his technology can strike that balance.

The company, which has spent millions of dollars on development, hopes to license its technology to online music and video services, record companies and movie studios. It also will try to persuade consumers to pay $10 to $12 a month for the new radio service, or twice as much as other services that don't let users request specific songs. Risan said the radio transmissions would use much less digital compression than competitors do, raising the company's costs but delivering better sound quality.

Overcoming Skepticism

Russell G. Weiss, an attorney at Morrison & Foerster who represents Music Public Broadcasting, said the company also has asked the RIAA for a discount on the royalties the radio service pays to record labels and artists because of the extra protection it provides against copying. If it succeeds, Weiss said, that could prod other Webcasters to license Music Public Broadcasting's technology and seek the same discount.

Zach Zalon of Radio Free Virgin, the online radio arm of Virgin Group, said he would love to license technology that prevented his stations' Webcasts from being recorded by "stream ripping" programs. Stream rippers break through every anti-piracy program on the market, Zalon said, "so if you could somehow defeat that, it's fantastic."

An executive at a major record company who's seen the technology for protecting streams and CDs said he was impressed, although he's not sure the demonstration can be duplicated in the real world. "If it's not snake oil, it's pretty awesome," he said.

Lawrence Kenswil, president of Universal Music Group's ELabs, said the labels' goal isn't to come up with a perfect defense against piracy, just one that's hard for the average person to defeat. "The question is, would the typical consumer bother to defeat it, not whether it's defeatable."



User Comments

Alternativeashleighj
Date: June 8, 2003 @ 9:47 PM
this is such a bunch of nonsense, i didn't finish reading it.

let's suppose you have the bestest, most securest thing ever to prevent me from downloading your song that you're letting me listen to.

i can still click "save stream to disk". if that doesn't work, i can still press record on my tape deck. i can get a second sound card in my computer and use it to record the output of the first one. maybe i can do that with just one sound card, i dunno. maybe i can use a disk-writer plugin so the player writes a .wav file to the disk. i bet someone who knows more about than i do has 20 more ideas.

math genious? whatever. do the math.
Bluegrassleflaw
Date: June 8, 2003 @ 9:56 PM
How about this:

Pro audio engineers will take a digital track and "warm it up" with a tube compressor and re-record it, analog out back to digital in. Its considered state of the art, digital tube emulation notwithstanding.

Ok, so you can prevent someone from making a digital copy. How can you stop someone from making A SUPERIOR ANALOG TO DIGITAL REMASTERING?

IntermediateSpica
Date: June 8, 2003 @ 10:20 PM
i agree.

analog recording is good enough for people who buy videotapes; it will be good enough to record streaming audio. I have been ripping streamed songs for a while now; it doesnt matter where it comes from - web radio or gameboy.

that self-declared "math wiz" should stick to his other, non-computer-related hobbies.
Alternativeronnie71
Date: June 8, 2003 @ 10:57 PM
Lawrence Kenswil, president of Universal Music Group's ELabs, said the labels' goal isn't to come up with a perfect defense against piracy, just one that's hard for the average person to defeat. "The question is, would the typical consumer bother to defeat it, not whether it's defeatable."


This is what bothered me.. there always be ways around it.. but this statement ... its not about piracy its about control... fuck you
DMemberFadedInTheLight
Date: June 8, 2003 @ 11:19 PM
This is how you secure music. First you stratigicly place these devices that cancel out any sound that is produced. You then claim to not know what the hell is going on. After a week or so, you announce through the internet, that you have a device that can be implanted into the ear and will allow you to hear again. This device works by getting a direct feed from the mashines that are canciling out the sound, so you will hear normaly, only you can control it so that copywrited sounds arn't broadcasted. Then when you want to listen to music, you register your device with the RIAA. When you want to listen to music, you can then pay per play for the song you want to hear.

I exspect the RIAA to put this system in place in 10 years. It will be sanctioned by congress because it is viewed as the only way to fight digital piracy, and defend the bottom line.
RockgdZiemann
Date: June 8, 2003 @ 11:47 PM
Hell, if they don't want me to listen to their music, well.....

okay.

Stupid is as stupid does.
WorldFunksaw
Date: June 9, 2003 @ 12:33 AM
The perfect Anti-Piracy method is already on CDs and has actually made it's debut in the United States.






It's called St. Anger. It's so bad, no one would even WANT to copy it!
WorldFunksaw
Date: June 9, 2003 @ 12:36 AM
Anyway, the thing about anti-piracy measures is that even if it's hard for the average person to defeat the copy protection, all it takes is *one* hardcore pirate to turn it into an MP3 and send it down the pipeline to all the regular shlubs.

In fact, if I wanted to have a digital copy of a song (to play on my iPod or to make a mix tape or whatever) but couldn't get it from the CD, wouldn't I be *forced* to use a file-sharing app to accomplish that goal?

Morons.
IntermediateSpica
Date: June 9, 2003 @ 12:44 AM
yeah, ronnie is right.

But all those schemes are usually quickly comrpomised by insiders. I expect the very same people who made the system will also make a way around it.
Just like the programmers at apple put a filesharing tool into their pay-per-download service.

The smarter a person is the more likely is the person to be against copyright.
IntermediateNiceGuy2003
Date: June 9, 2003 @ 1:28 AM
Faded, your reply to this sounds very much like a story I wrote a year ago about all this. In it you had to pay everytime you heard a song, watched a movie or even turned on your computer. If this happens, then I'm moving to Canada or somewhere in the South Pacific.
Advancedgoldenpi
Date: June 9, 2003 @ 2:12 AM
Another one? And this one seems to be trying to use network theory. Cant see how thats going to do anything. Besides, Microsoft is going to easily crush all competition. They have WMP bundled with windows, they already have deals with most legal download sites. There is of course the minor detail that their protection has more holes than a sieve, but they have more than enough business sense and connections to overcome that. This is just not a good time to enter the PC DRM field. MS is aggressively crushing all competition, and with the promise of palladium in a few years noone wants to commit to anything else in case they have to make an expensive change later.
DMemberchrisbacke
Date: June 9, 2003 @ 2:16 AM
funksaw, there's a *lot* of CD's out there I've heard, borrowed, bought, or otherwise (legally) obtained that weren't worth my time and/or money to rip them... if the RIAA wants to produce such crap that no one will **want** to rip it, more power to them - i've got a couple thousand indie artists to listen to :) (Smile)

Chris
http://www.woodsongs.com
Indie radio show with 500,000+ listeners
Advancedgoldenpi
Date: June 9, 2003 @ 4:04 PM
Hmm, streaming protection. There could be some demand for that, because both windows media and realmedia streams are easy to copy. Just earlier today I was prepareing the latest batch of good programs from radio 4 for the p2p networks. Its against policy to share realaudio, so I have to recode to ogg and tag them.
DMemberMediamaster
Date: June 9, 2003 @ 9:57 PM
HA HA HA!

Funny solution, Faded. After the congressmen are paid their "donations" they will probably make it a bill.

Hail Mp3!!!
DMemberLitheon
Date: June 10, 2003 @ 2:23 AM
I read this and I just keep thinking back to when the RIAA said their sales were dropping because of online "piracy" from Napster. Their sales dropped bacuse everyone knew what was crap and what was worth buying. Online piracy was invented and then paid not made into law. The RIAA wanted everyone to keep buying the crap too because all the CEOs couldn't afford to keep their Gulfstreams flying, their limos full of gas, and still have enough to take their 120ft yachts for weekend cruises.
DMembernovuselysium
Date: June 10, 2003 @ 4:41 AM
This 'math wiz' is an idiot. That's about all I have to say.
Classicalmracky
Date: June 10, 2003 @ 12:38 PM
It didn't read like he was an idiot, more like he was extremely rich (hired 16 programmers for a year -- ouch).

This guy is another step in the never-ending cycle of technology encoding sound waves.
DMemberarundevi
Date: June 10, 2003 @ 5:03 PM
Math Wiz ??

who gave him the title. he is going to come up with a solution which microsoft with 100's of programmers and RIAA with vault full of money cant do.

i can only laugh through my you know where.

who comes up with these news.
DMembertheerm
Date: June 11, 2003 @ 5:36 AM
... This is kinda stupid if you think of it. Why can't you just use an audio out from one computer to an audio in to another, or maybe a cd or something. Once you have that analog signal that's it. You can pirate it. Tape, CD, another computer, cd-r deck. It's just as easy as pluggin' in an rca jack.

I'm not upgrading to XP, or ME I actually downgraded from XP to 98 when I got this computer just because the software is sooo bloated, and they took out a simple thing like netBEUI thus making it next to impossible to network. I will more than likely NOT upgrade to Pallidian, because I belive by that time. Microsoft will have decided that rent once a month must be paid to them for using their software. $10 a month sure does sound reasonable doesn't it? Next version 20 next 30 etc.

I've started playing with linux (it really is the future), however it lacks in the user friendly department. Just doesn't quite feel right, and no real multi-track recording software is out there for linux either.

Who want's to read a man page just to learn how to change one option that should be in a dialog box with a check mark. Most linux programers just don't get that. Sure it's bigger that way, but it is better for the average user ... wait a sec, we are talking about music sorry.

Erm
http://noriaa.the-erm.com
Advancedgoldenpi
Date: June 11, 2003 @ 7:57 AM
Netbeui never has worked properly, should have been removed years ago. MS could use palladium as the excuse to abandon the old tech completly. Im sure MS would like the idea, it would force a lot of upgrades, but they are probably worried all those upgraders would instead upgrade to linux and NFS.
DMemberLitheon
Date: June 12, 2003 @ 2:39 AM
It seems to me that if Palladium does come about the prices of motherboards and peripherals without the technology will plumet. If this is true then I'm going to buy as much of it as I can. It could be too late by the time MS announces it though knowing them. They are probably already sneaking parts of it into the computers of those people that frequently download the updates for Winblows from the MS site.
DMembertauisgod
Date: June 12, 2003 @ 2:49 AM
In a week we find out this guy is a porn barron and his 12 "programmers" are all ex-strippers, and this whole thig is a publicity stunt.
This is almost as good as that one company that swore they had something which would survive a digital-analog-digital conversion.
BREAKING NEWS:
Poor college undergrad nullifies 12 years of collective work by self-professed math wiz and his cronies by buying a 1/8th inch male-male audio cable and connceting his line-in and line-out.

God forbid I ever hook my Nomad Jukebox to my speaker line and hit the record button.
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