Posted by jmweirick in on January 15, 2003 at 7:50 PM
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Gateway is now offering a legal music downloading system called Mucic Vault. When you purchase your Gateway PC you can get it pre-loaded with a 40GB Music Vault hard drive with 2,000 songs. The only catch is you have to pay them $9.95 a month to access the hard drive. As if this isn't enough they will also charge you an aditional $9.95 to burn ten songs to a CD or transfer ten songs to an MP3 player, costing you a grand total of $20 dollars for one ten song CD, those of you that still buy CDs know that you can get a ten song CD from the store for only $15! We all know the RIAA is stupid but trying to counter one bad deal with a worse one is just rediculous!
Full information can be found at www.gateway.com/musicvault
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User Comments
goofycaca
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Date: January 16, 2003 @ 1:56 PM
Dude! Get a Dell!
And just download it like the rest of us.
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goat1974
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Date: January 16, 2003 @ 5:01 PM
Gee, $9.95 to access a hard drive on my computer, what a novel idea. Let's hope that MS or any other large overbearing software company does not get a hold of this idea and start charging folks $9.95 everytime they turn on their computer.
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horsefucker
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Date: January 16, 2003 @ 6:29 PM
I agree. This sounds retarded. I am going to Gateway's website to check it out (for fun).
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Mediamaster
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Date: January 16, 2003 @ 6:44 PM
No Kidding, this is itiotic. Paying to access my own hard drive. It's like that commercial of the ATM charging you to get in your refrigerator.
Oh well, don't use Gateway anyway.
Hail Mp3!!!
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Spica
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Date: January 16, 2003 @ 6:57 PM
that's what's coming to you when you buy a bundled PC.
usually those have cheapazoid parts.
you pay 10%-30% for the assembly, then you pay $200 for Windoze, and then $100-$200 just because the seller feels like it.
just assemble ur own PC and install any crack of any OS u want on it. oh how many times have I crax0red windoze 2k. 
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mtekk
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Date: January 16, 2003 @ 6:59 PM
there has to be a way to get around it. maby not connecting to the internet, and taking the mp3s from the hard drive and transfering them to a few DVD+Rs then low level format the hard drive, then install windows xp, not the Gateway version, and then acces the dvds, without the gateway software thay are free for the taking!!! also just don't get the Gateway, go with the dell, or hire me to build you a box.
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mtekk
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Date: January 16, 2003 @ 7:00 PM
oh yeah, once getting the gateway, throw away the cds or hide them, since my method won't need them, ever again...
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jmweirick
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Date: January 16, 2003 @ 7:13 PM
how much do you charge mtekk i got $9.95
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mtekk
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Date: January 16, 2003 @ 7:21 PM
umm...
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mtekk
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Date: January 16, 2003 @ 7:26 PM
haha, funny... a new box would run ya about well any where from $300-$????? hy profit is minimal, most likely less than $9.95
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mtekk
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Date: January 16, 2003 @ 7:28 PM
well evil pressplay is involved which meand this in not a good thing...
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mtekk
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Date: January 16, 2003 @ 7:29 PM
here is more info fome the site...
• Unlimited access to over 200,000 songs
• Burn songs to CDs and transfer to portable music player
• Listen to music on or offline; great option for dial-up users!
• Commercial-free radio
• Only service with an option to exclude explicit lyrics
Access music in the Vault or go online to download/stream unlimited additional songs from pressplay’s vast catalog of music.
1. Genre packs available in the following genres: Rock, Pop, Country, Alternative, Jazz, Hip Hop/Rap and R&B. Each Genre Pack includes the following:
- 150 pre-downloaded songs that are ready to play
- 30 days of the pressplay music service featuring unlimited access to 200,000+ songs
- 10 portable download credits
Only $29.99 per genre + $9.95/month after the first 30 days
2. Add a Music Vault Mega Pack hard drive to your desktop computer for instant access to over 2000 songs. This option is perfect for dial-up users – because a fast Internet connection is not required. The Mega Pack includes:
- 40GB Music Vault Hard Drive
- 2000 pre-downloaded songs that are ready to play
- 90 days of the pressplay music service featuring unlimited access to 200,000+ songs
- 20 portable download credits
Only $149.99 + $9.95/month after the first 90 days
1 - Major credit card required. Free Trial includes unlimited streaming and downloading over a 3, 30 or 90-day period depending on whether you select our Basic, Genre or Mega Pack options. You may cancel the service anytime before the end of your Free Trial and your credit card will not be billed. At the end of the trial period, pressplay will automatically charge your credit card either $9.95 or $17.95 per month -- depending on the service you sign-up for. For details please go to: www.pressplay.com
Sale subject to Limited Warranty and Terms & Conditions agreement.
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goofycaca
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Date: January 16, 2003 @ 7:30 PM
my guess would be that this mysterious music vault is actually on a server somewhere. You pay to access the server which blocks any attempts to download or burn. Then Gateway can charge you again for the CD burned from "your" music vault.
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goofycaca
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Date: January 16, 2003 @ 7:32 PM
I stand corrected. And absolutely stunned that they think anybody would buy into that.
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Remye
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Date: January 17, 2003 @ 7:47 AM
Gateway sucks anyway..tttmmm
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horsefucker
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Date: January 17, 2003 @ 12:34 PM
It used to always seem to me that when someone bought a CD they were buying the music. Afterall, they can sell the CD. But lately it seems like the recoding industry wants to lease music. so I guess their plan is that we pay them $10/month forever. I really don't understand where they are going with this because I can't imagine many people buying into it. I guess they are trying to make the same amount on files that they made on CDs. But then again, CDs were overpriced.
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j-mov
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Date: January 17, 2003 @ 7:32 PM
OK. First of all. I have a cracked Micro$oft Windoze ZP Professional CORPORATE edition that does NOT use the FCKGW-... key. It uses a key from a keygen... Second, I build computers for fun. I'm quite good at it. $180 plus shipping for a piece of crap, $300 on up for OK and better. Third, if you really want the damn songs that bad, buy the gateway, with minimum options, just so long as it has the 40GB hard drive in there. Take the 40GB out, and put it in a LINUX box. Linux can read anything, even if it's encrypted. Assuming you have the right drivers. I suggest Mandrake Linux 9.0. Anyway, you can then transfer the 2,000+ songs from the 40GB hard drive to your Linux drive, format the 40GB as NTFS, and put the songs back on it. Format the hard drive on the gateway, install OS of choice, and put the 40GB in there. Your songz are forever yourz. If you actually want to use the gateway box, you could actually buy it with some good options, come to think of it.... Just remember my motto:
If it's digital, there IS a way around it. No matter what. Don't give me that specially formatted CD shit, RIAA, because I WILL find a way around it. FUCK YOU!!
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j-mov
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Date: January 17, 2003 @ 7:33 PM
By the way, you have access to 200,00 songs, and you pick 2,000 of them to load onto the hard drive. $10 that the bitrate on those is about 64Kbps, too...
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horsefucker
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Date: January 17, 2003 @ 8:59 PM
Also, there are several software packages that record sound from the system mixer. You can subsribe to the Gateway Music Vault for one month and then record all of the songs you want.
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chrisbacke
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Date: January 18, 2003 @ 10:41 AM
I've probably already got anything they're trying to sell that I'd actually like... You'd have to be an IDIOT to actually WANT to use it the way THEY tell you to, to listen to THEIR music on THEIR terms, paying whatever prices THEY set, not whatever price the market sets...
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Nortlander
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Date: January 18, 2003 @ 11:55 AM
Is it just me, or did the world just get a little stupider, brrrr... 
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Nortlander
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Date: January 18, 2003 @ 11:55 AM
im talking about gateway, not you doodz. 
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ssokolow
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Date: January 18, 2003 @ 9:56 PM
Gateway = Gateway to evil
RIAA = Retarded Idiotic Altered (read castrated) A$$holes
No wonder they don't have the balls to fight fair.
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jmweirick
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Date: January 19, 2003 @ 4:24 PM
i like Retarded Idiots Angering Americans better but they are both good.
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ssokolow
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Date: January 19, 2003 @ 7:34 PM
yours is a good one but I am canadian.
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Nortlander
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Date: January 20, 2003 @ 10:55 AM
-i got this from the RIAA website. It's so hypocritical, its not even funny. From what i've seen, the RIAA wants to rid the world of ALL Mp3 technology.
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What is your stand on MP3?
This is one of those urban myths like alligators in the toilet. MP3 is just a technology and the technology itself never did anything wrong! There are lots of legal MP3s from great artists on many, many online sites. The problem is that some people use MP3 to take one copy of an album and make that copy available on the Internet for hundreds of thousands of people. That's not fair. If you choose to take your own CDs and make copies for yourself on your computer or portable music player, that's great. It's your music and we want you to enjoy it at home, at work, in the car and on the jogging trail. But the fact that technology exists to enable unlimited Internet distribution of music copies doesn't make it right.
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j-mov
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Date: January 20, 2003 @ 12:37 PM
well that's shit. they all need to get a fucking job!!
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DavidCullen001
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Date: January 20, 2003 @ 6:53 PM
No one's mentioned the fact that you have to pay for songs that you don't want to listen to.
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UnnDunn
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Date: January 21, 2003 @ 9:47 AM
How this works is that it's just a regular hard drive, not encrypted or anything. But the music files on it are stored in WMA format, encrypted. And you'd need a license to play them. They will only play on players that support Windows Media Rights Manager.
Obviously to get the license you'd need to sign up for a pressplay subscription. But even then they will only issue you a license for a limited time - a week or so. To renew the license, you'd have to keep your subscription active.
The 'portable downloads' are licenses they issue that do not expire and allow you to burn the songs to CD or other portable players. But you still can only burn to one CD or one portable player.
Copying the files themselves to a DVD-R wouldn't work because the files themselves are still encrypted and subject to the same rules.
Personally, I'd prefer if they supplied the music files on a batch of DVDs instead of on a HD. But that's assuming I would even consider getting this deal. Which would be a greatly erroneous assumption.
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kgnally
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Date: January 27, 2003 @ 12:32 PM
Hah. Do what the guy up above said; drop the drive in a linux box. They assume that everyone uses Windoze; haha, they are wrong. And yes, linux *can* read any file you give it, because it looks at the contents, not the .foo suffix. Provided you have software that can read .wma format in linux, you can probably quite easily break the encryption.
The real question is, since linux can do all these cool things, how long will it be before linux is made illegal?
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