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Hearings on the Berman Bill
Posted by AdvancedBill Evans in on September 26, 2002 at 2:35 AM



THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2002
Subcommittee on Courts, the Internet, and Intellectual Property
9:00 a.m. in 2141 Rayburn House Office Building
Oversight hearing on “Piracy Of Intellectual Property On Peer-to-Peer Networks.”
Live Audio Feed - only available during date and time of meeting


User Comments

AdvancedNeoFlash
Date: September 26, 2002 @ 5:34 AM
if the berman bill is passed, and they start hacking people, with my norton antivirus auto protect and zonealarm on high for both zones, try me!! They always say gnutella and fasttrack, never anything on winmx. At least we have them.

We will destroy the RIAA, and it'll be fun seeing them file for ch 11, heh heh.
Advancedthumbtack
Date: September 26, 2002 @ 5:45 AM
Neo, Get a router, and use it as a hardware firewall then your zonealarm. Its safer and free up your computing power to run the programs and play music etc., rather than playing traffic cop constantly.
DMemberetucci
Date: September 26, 2002 @ 8:28 AM
I agree.. I like the Linksys products.. and they just got a lot cheaper recently, too
IntermediateW-B
Date: September 26, 2002 @ 10:55 AM
Sounds like the official name of this fascistic bill appeared to have been coined for the purposes of creating the kind of tongue-twister to say three to five times fast.
Advancedgoldenpi
Date: September 26, 2002 @ 12:48 PM
CDTBPA CDTBPA CDTBPA CDTBPA CDTBPA :-) (Smile)
P2PPPP P2PPPP P2PPPP P2PPPP P2PPPP :-) (Smile)

You dont need to bother with paranoid firewall settups to keep the RIAA out. Hacking you just wouldn't be profitable, and anyway the RIAA is too stupid for that. Their idea of hacking will be a gigabit connection to a backbone and a huge pingflooder. Why bother hacking users when you can DoS the whole network? If thats not legal they can easily enough DoS just a few hundred thousand users who are shareing MP3s and watch the network collapse.
DMemberuerseya
Date: September 26, 2002 @ 2:31 PM
Hmm get ya'self a server based firewall between ya i'net connection and your downloading 'puter like me, I got'z to say ashamedly M$ ISA Server 2000 Ent. Ed., (well it was free so you can forgive me the use of M$ software on that basis can't ya), then if ya really paranoid run ya'self a nice free copy of Norton Personal Firewall or Internet Security on the inside of the connection, the server takes the majority of the flack and shite and your network based firewall just protects you and your personal privacy that lil bit more . . . just because your paranoid, don't mean they're not after you !!!

They're coming to take me away . . . ha ha ! ? ! ? ! ? !

They're coming to take me away . . . hee hee ! ? ! ? ! ? !
AdvancedNeoFlash
Date: September 26, 2002 @ 4:59 PM
Zonealarm is free, and I have programmed it to stop that cd_clint.dll spyware file kazaa needs to work fromk going online, and a few others, so I can have a spyware free kazaa 2 (lite 2 isn't out yet).

Also, if my p4-m 1.8 ghz (soon to be a 2.2 ghz or if I want to wait a 2.4 ghz p4-m) slows down, I'll consider paying for all that.

In addition to blocking the specific kazaa spyware, gator, and gain, I use Zonealarm since I paid $0 for it. And until I move, I am using my laptop on my dining room table and my dsl modem on one of the chairs, the last thing I need is more clutter.

If that link worked, I'd use it for the live audio feed.

- Lou
DMemberCoasterMaster
Date: September 26, 2002 @ 10:23 PM
kazaa lite 2 is out now! yay! and so is that participation level hack

-Ben
IntermediateW-B
Date: September 27, 2002 @ 11:14 AM
** . . . just because your [sic] paranoid, don't mean they're not after you !!!** -- uerseya

Actually, the RIAA is more paranoid than you. Why else would they be after you? They assume the absolute worst about your intentions on the computer, thus their pirating -- er, appropriating -- the Stalinist police-state tactics associated with Communist dictatorships. Or to put it another way, the RIAA seeks to remake itself into an American KGB.
Reggaefu-dog
Date: September 27, 2002 @ 11:32 AM
W-B, uerseya was ending w/ an apropos Nirvana lyric. :) (Smile)

Just wanted fill in you new Kazaa users, go back to the previous version cause the software is responsible for pirating money in referral transactions w/ major online businesses, ie - Amazon. Checkout the nytimes article: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/27/technology/27FREE.html
Advancedmtekk
Date: September 28, 2002 @ 5:44 PM
The RIAA, is hacking computers, and installing a hard drive delet everything .exe. not good i say.
AdvancedNeoFlash
Date: September 28, 2002 @ 8:45 PM
I have my zonealarm on high. I have the gator, gain, tricker765_gain crap blocked, all of the cydoor files, etc. blocked. I have norton antivirus updated with auto protect in the background.

Let's see me get through that, eh?

Well, I have the song eminem lose yourself on my computer, knowing I could contribute to the network since it is popular, and in the time it took me to go to the bathroom, gnucleus (which I had just turned on) had in the shared files tab said it got 39 uploads.

Either they are hacking, or my 140 upload went up to 100 mb uploading! They are obviously doing something, because I get over 7000 alerts by zonealarm in the log after I have had gnucleus on for awhile, instead of the normal 100, tops 1000.

Obviously it's workin', and my little inspiron 8200 aint slowed down a bit! $3000 may be steep, but it can as thumbtack said "play traffic cop", rip from a cd to wav on my computer in musicmatch, take the other cds I had already ripped and make oggs outta them in oggdropxpd, have gnucleus on set ot host the max of 1500 people, have mozilla, norton antivirus auto protect, and winamp on all at the same time! With little lag, the only thing causing it is the ogg vorbis encoder program.

Anyway, people should use those 2 programs or something that works like them, one for viruses protecting you in the background, and one for hacks like zonealarm.

P.S.

mtekk, you make very smart and interesting comments and are a developer, but for god sakes learn some grammer :p (Joking) :D (Big Grin)

- Lou
DMemberemixode
Date: October 1, 2002 @ 7:01 AM
"but for god sakes learn some grammer"

It's 'grammar' ;P (just picking on ya!)
Advancedgoldenpi
Date: October 5, 2002 @ 9:33 AM
Firewalls wont help. You have a broadband connection. They have a gigabit connection. If everyone pays out for the 1M broadband they will have enough bandwidth to DoS 1000 users at a time. Tie that into a search bot. You have the RIAAs "hunter-killer copyright enforcer". Searches for files they dont like, either by filename or hash. When it finds a user hosting one of those files it forwards the IP to one of the systems in their DoS bank, which will use any method available to get that pirate offline. And a firewall wont help if they are trying to overload your connection. They can do it easily enough, and I think its legal under the P2PPPA. It says they cant delete files, but I dont think it says anything about network disruption.
DMemberuerseya
Date: October 8, 2002 @ 1:52 PM
The ISP will pick it up and block it at the edge of their network . . . . otherwise it would affect the overall performance of the network, I don't think the RIAA are stupid (?) enough to use such a blunt tool to squash an ant . . .. mebbe some 3l337 h4x4r$ should take a few pot shots at the RIAA if it comes to it . . . a lil dose of their own medicine eh ?
DMemberID-deth
Date: October 10, 2002 @ 4:25 PM
LOL

DoSing is stupid against many users...I have a 2Mbit connection to the net. They can 'hack' about 500 users that way. Not cost effective...

Besides, I can always reset my modem, get another IP, and be up under a different IP in a few minutes.
DMembertst
Date: December 9, 2002 @ 9:21 AM
SO. if the RIAA can hack me, then under the TIPS act of 2001, i can hack them back. What are some good utilities i got Tiger Suite PRO v2.6 but it dont work right - i also got alot of experience in C+ and ip spoofing
DMemberluckyp3616
Date: July 5, 2005 @ 2:06 AM
I am making an automated shell script (Linux) to DoS them. It sends spoof packets from 10.0.0.1, and hpe they get a taste of their own medicine. (it usess endip)
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