Why write a long essay, when its all here?

Who made that? That's AWESOME!

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Some Guy named Tim Yager methinks...Thanks Tim.

hehe, no problem, glad this could help the cause.

cool

+ fav's .. ow wait, this isn't DeviantArt.. this poster OWNS! lol

A picture is worth a thousand words and the all say that the RIAA sucks.

The swaztika is a little over the top though, don't you think?

*AHEM* Why wasn't credit given to Tim in the header of the article? And possibly a reference to the original 1932 creation, as well...

By the way, nice job, Tim.

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Excellent!

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And tim got the idea from me!!! Ok maybe not just tryin to get credit somewhere nevermind... great slogan logo pic thingy though

Why does tim hate white people?

cause he's a racist with that horrible icon.

Nah, he just really dug the Howard Stern Movie.

It was an Eddie Murphy movie, and, while I agree it's a racially-motivated statement, I find it quite innocuous, and anyone who knows Tim knows he's not a racist.

(I'll send that money order right away)

Of course, in all fairness, the phrase _could_ possibly be inferred as an incitement to kill Whitey Ford, or my old neighbor Whitey Wahlstetter, and since they're both dead, it'd be a little difficult to kill them, putting an interestingly humorous irony on the entire statement.

Is the problem in the implication? or the inferrence?

Comparing the RIAA with Nazis is just dumb.

Actually I took it from the movie Black Sheep.

They seem pretty fascist to me.

I know you guys feel strongly bout hating the RIAA but really, we do need the labels but ditch the RIAA and their strongarm tacktics and the music will flow once again. think comparing it to Nazis is dumb and childish myself. and ripping someone elses artwork off is not cool.

I await your flames..

milladrive: sorry, but as a white person, I find the icon racist and offensive.

I'm white, I guess I'm not narrow minded, is that it?

good real good, hehehe

BabyZ, your shoe size is unimportant to me. In fact, if it was only slightly humorous before, I think it's even funnier now.

Leflaw: Well, what's so fascist about the RIAA? Do they believe in racial superiority? Do they promote xenophobic behaviour? Are they working on installing an old-style dictatorship? Haven't noticed any of that.

And even if you believe they do - fascism is not the same as national socialism. The Nazis killed about six million people in concentration camps. Comparing a trade organisation like the RIAA with that is not just dumb, but a slap in the face of the survivors of the Holocaust.

People, please think before you use such stupid analogies.

How many "legend" artists have the labels "killed" by not paying the royalties and reporting the earnings to Aftra, denying them the healthcare that they so need in their later years? How about John Denver? 5 years after his death his label finds 19 million more sales. Maybe if Denver had gotten paid when it was earned he would have been flying something other than an experimental airplane, like a Lear jet and might still be alive. What about Aaliyah? overloaded plane for a video shoot, the list goes on and on, then the label rushes the prep and shipment of her body and doesn't pay the bill. You can't rewrite history folks to be politically correct. its a disservice to those that were affected by those events,no matter how distasteful it is/was and serves to remind us it should never happen again.

Bill, what you describe is maximising profits without bearing responsibility. That's another ism actually. Hint: It begins with a c

Whoa, wait a second. Experimental aircraft are NOT deathtraps. FAA has very strict regulations to cover this category of aircraft, as outlined in Advisory Circular 20-27E.

John Denver was flying a Long Eze, a very popular airplane designed by Burt Rutan, one of the most recognized names in aviation. Despite being a very experienced pilot, the tragedy which lead to Denver's death was a result of him flying an airplane that he was not familiar with--he couldn't reach the fuel selector. Sadly, he was at fault. And, by the way, he held a type rating to fly a Lear Jet.

Sorry for the off-topic rant, but I wanted to clear that up.

Argh, my links didn't work. The regs are outlined here:
http://av-info.faa.gov/dst/amateur/

And advisory Circular 20-27E can be found here:
http://av-info.faa.gov/dst/amateur/ac20-27e.pdf

A DIALOGUE:


J: Leflaw: Well, what's so fascist about the RIAA? Do they believe in racial superiority?

L. FASCISM HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH RACIAL SUPERIORITY.

J: Do they promote xenophobic behaviour?

L. ABSOLUTELY.. THEY ARE AFRAID TO DEATH OF THE INTERNET, OPEN SOURCE and ALTERNATIVE SYSTEMS of all sorts.

J: Are they working on installing an old-style dictatorship? Haven't noticed any of that.

L. YES. THEY WANT TO DICTATE NOT ONLY INTERNET USUAGE RULES a la DRM, SDMI, and NOw repressive litigation mandating V-CHIPS in our TV's and music devices. Its 1984, only its 2002. AND THEY HAVE A "PIRACY CZAR" AND THEY ARE A MONOPOLY. This cannot be subject to debate. The new dictatorships are virtual monopolies, and many writers have noted that the new Global warfare possibilities arfe in the nature of "network wars".

J. And even if you believe they do - fascism is not the same as national socialism. The Nazis killed about six million people in concentration camps. Comparing a trade organisation like the RIAA with that is not just dumb, but a slap in the face of the survivors of the Holocaust.

L. READ WILLIAM SHIRER's ACCOUNT OF THE RISE OF NATIONAL SOCIALISM. You know they incarcerated and legislated their opponents as well as murdered them.

J. People, please think before you use such stupid analogies.


L. YOU SHOULD STOP AND THINK: HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT LIVING IN A COUNTRY THAT HAS STARTED ON THE SLIPPERY SLOPE TO REPRESSION? WOULD YOU HAVE RECOGNIZED IT IN GERMANY in 1930? WOULD YOU HAVE RECOGNIZED McCARTYISM in 1947? THE SEEDS WERE THERE for those that opened their eyes.
NOT SO FAR FETCHED. The words "Recording Industry Association of America" are now a Statutory collection agent and expressly named as such in the US copyright act, yet they mostly represent foreign companies. That doesn't bother you? Suppose the Copyright act named the Vivendi of France, Sony of Japan, BMG of Germany as the statutory agent to reinforce copyright law, and one night the FBI comes into your house with a warrant to arrest you under 17 USC 1201 for DRM violations, and the warrant is signed by a German, a Japanese and a Frenchman. OK with you? WELL ITS ALREADY HAPPENING. You never heard of Dimitri Skylarov? Ed Felton?
"How could you say Mussolini is bad - he made the trains run on Time!"
Final thought. Remember those old science fiction movies with BIG BROTHER on a TV set in your living room that you can't turn off or reprogram, and it watches you as you watch them?

Then go read the Hollings bill.

lef

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU, Leflaw. I read that earlier post and was immediately fuming. Glad to see you got here ahead of me and straightened this out! The Association is all about being a dictatorship, and what makes it even MORE onerous is that they are using the free market economy to do it.

Oh and Tim might be a racist, but he's also a snazzy columnist

Hooray for Leflaw's comment! Tim is a snazzy columnist... way to get famous!

lol @ people who SUPPORT ME!!!

Looks like everything I create, image wise, makes people fussy. And you know what?







I'M GLAD!!!!

mwu ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!

Cryxan, You mean that guy that designed the Voyager the plane that broke a wing on take off? Around the world with part of the wing missing? I know who Rutan is and he does some really creative stuff. But a home built plane is only as good as its maintainence, and construction. As for JD not being able to reach the fuel switchover that falls directly on the builder. Take a look at http://www.avweb.com/articles/profiles/brutan/ for a description of what the process was to switch tanks.

The Voyager is hardly a passenger airplane. It was an engineering challenge, and an amazing accomplishment, even with the handicap.

I'm familiar with the Long Eze fuel system. The standard location for the fuel selector valve is on the floor in front of you. Indeed, this is the case for many small airplanes.

The nature of a homebuilt airplane is that there are variations from aircraft to aircraft. Yes, the fuel selector was in a different (though not completely unusual) location. Why has that particular plane been punching holes in the sky since 1978 with no mishaps, until 1997?

Ultimately, it is the Pilot In Command's responsibility to ensure that both the pilot and the aircraft are safe and ready to fly (this includes having sufficient fuel plus reserves) and familiarize him/herself with all information pertaining to the flight.

If Rutan's suspicion that Denver hadn't even operated the fuel selector in flight before is correct, then Denver failed to fulfill his duties as PIC. A factor that quite possibly played a role here is that he is a little below the average height.

The Eze is a two seater. It is not hard to go up with an instructor for an hour and get an introductory lesson. No matter how experienced a pilot is, when transitioning to a different airplane, this is a smart thing to do.

hey, the poster really ROCKS - thanx, Tim!

well, y'all guys speak about fascism... you are completely RIGHT, RIAA is driving you all towards totalitarianism ... however, why use the mention of 'fascism' ?? have you forgotten communism (it didn't have anything to do with community or society in fact) ?? I've been living 12 years since I was born (1977) as the communist slave in People's Republic of Poland ... Censorship (there was the office where the one willing to publish something had to bring it first to censor);no free speech at all, persecutions (my parents were political dissidents, so I know it well), the prohibited songs, listening to Radio Free Europe in fear ... nothing to do for any creative individual -- only a MONOPOLY. State's monopoly this time. Domination of one Party (Polish United Workers' Party this time). Wiretapping and other means of invigilation; political police (Security Service, or SB) ... Where DMCA and KGBDTA or Hollings' bill is heeding you to, is a commie dictatorship in the name of "capitalism" (which really is no more capitalist than Castro's 'socialist for ever' regime).

and, communism was NO better at all than fascism; in PRP (PRL), it has appeared rather mild, but in USSR, Red China, Pol Pot's Kambodza and some other states, there were tens of millions killed. And it all has been in the name of DOMINATION ("one ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and into the darkness bind them" -- doesn't it sound familiar??)

well, there is ONE THING:
we MAY NOT associate RIAA with political murderers. As somebody said: it is a slap in the face to the victims -- of holocaust (genocide of the Jews), other nazi crimes and of the communist crimes, and will label us as a 'fringe group'. nevertheless, we SHOULD associate RIAA and MPAA with totalitarian control -- because it's what they really want. could totalitarianisms exist without mass murders? I think they could. Mass murders was about madness (look at Hitler on any archive movie -- doesn't he look like a lunatic? doesn't Stalin look like an extreme paedophile, child murderer??), but totalitarianisms are about CONTROL. there may be no murders at all, but all would live in fear.

Just the over-control and JAILING every dissenter, as it is in today's communist China and as it was in People's Republic of Poland, is enough to make many people to bow their heads. Oh, just another comparison: SLAVERY. Were slaves mass-murdered ?? NO. Were they stabbed to death at every street corner? NO. They were forced to work for their masters, they've been beaten (mostly by whipping) from time to time, but they've also been "awarded" for better working (for example, moved from the fields of plantation to the house service).

We should be concentrated, we should be cool, but not quiet; our arguments should be reasonable, and so we should be, too, but not inactive; just follow the way as Karate masters do: no rage. no fuming. Just concentration of the bodily powers Karateka has, and using it as laser uses light ...

Yours,
Critto, http://www.libertaryzm.prv.pl

Critto - thank you for a well reasoned argument for someone who I presume should know better than most of 'us' from the West - please continue your insightful comments !

Cheers & Thanx !

Well spoken Critto!