entity2k1
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 10:39 AM
Sweet... I love IE. even though people talk a lot of shit about MS they do make a tight browser.
peace
-entity2k1-
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kobi
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 10:49 AM
So, can I safely install this over my 5.5, or shold I wait for the final?
oh, DOM 1? am I missing something?
so many questions...
[Kobi] http://members.nbci.com/imkobi
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san-tor
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 11:01 AM
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spacejazz
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 11:01 AM
kobi: I've been using 6 since it's release and the only problem I've had with it was Themebar never worked (which I don't use, mind. I was just having (or not, as it happens) a look-see). And it wouldn't remember preferences when d'ling an MPEG.
ie: Downloaded a XBOX movie which brought up the Media bar thingy. It asked if I wanted IE to open this file type or Media Player. I said Media Player, it said, that's nice. I said, thanks. I checked out some gamecube stuff the same day. Well hello, Mr. Media bar... again.
I've found it rock solid aside from those mentioned. Auto-resize is a god send, too.
:: the future has already begun ::
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flash_5
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kobi
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 11:10 AM
spacejazz: thanks, though I've forgot one thing. I'll wait until microsoft Israel will release this preview. Otherwise I may not be able to see Hebrew sites :\
and about that bug, maybe it's not a bug at all. Microsoft always "push" their new features like that. It's like that stupid office assistant: always pop up. hmm, maybe not.
[Kobi] http://members.nbci.com/imkobi
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nomadic
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 11:12 AM
I personally think M$ did somthing right for once. This actually stable for once , i have personally tried to crash it doing odd things such as throwing oddly declared scripts at it. No crash for this. Maybe Windows XP wil be worth me purchasing.
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klynx
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 11:12 AM
cool, thx for the hookup attiluh
I hope this fixes my stupid jpg issues.
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tazman-666
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 11:23 AM
I got the IE6 public Preview about 3 weeks ago, now it does nothing but crash. Hopefully this new release will sort it out. if no, its back to good ol' IE5.5 
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klownhaus
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 11:32 AM
IE is kick ass. I have been using the beta version and havent had alot of trouble with it. I hope the update doesnt start giving me trouble. HAHA that would suck pretty bad wouldnt it.
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sindex
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 12:27 PM
i got IE6 first public beta a few months ago and it looked pretty good. but few things annoyed me, like the damn media bar (totaly useless!). but a few weeks ago, i got rid of it cause after a while, IE stopped displaying images (fixed by restart) and after a while, it wouldn't open new windows (fixed by restarting IE). but now, the problem stayed when i uninstalled IE6 and went back to IE5.5
and instead of "illegal operation" it gives you a nice little error box, asking you to report the error. and you can't forget websites that want IE5+, thinking IE6 is not compatible with them.
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barta
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 12:36 PM
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attila
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 12:45 PM
They've tweaked the Media bar and is and has always been optional, so the problem of it popping up is on your end. Just turn the option off. I love what Microsoft has done with IE. Hehe, I like going around to other sites and seeing my article ganked word for word... but it's all gravy, as long as you make it look sekzy. Stay devious!
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Attila Networksą·°
attila@deviantart.com
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trodden
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 12:57 PM
nice..ie 4 life!
[ trodden ]
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amgv84
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 1:12 PM
Hey i've been using the beta for a few months now and its great!
If it freezes, it brings up a message to terminate JUST the window that froze - not every single ie window you have open, so you dont lose everything.
And the media bar works great, if I open a windows media player file link, it just opens it in the bar, it doesnt have to load the whole stupid win mp prog. AND it now has a print preview!
Plus the Personal Bar shows the weather and headlines of whatever type you choose. Oh and now webpages can choose a color for the scroll bar, so devarts scrollbar matches the rest of the page now.
I love ie6 so far!
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cype
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 1:13 PM
Another thing I won't download.
Cype
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amgv84
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 1:16 PM
oh yea! I forgot! It also has a little icon in the bottom right corner to show you security on the webpage you're at, like if its sharing info through other sites and stuff, and if you double click on it it shows all the info on the page.
Plus the auto-resize on images is nice, if the image is bigger than your window it will resize it to fit,(unless the page coding says otherwise) and when you put the cursor over the pic a button will appear to enlarge it if you want.
And it skins very nicely now.
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warfish
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 1:33 PM
w00t! ie 6! i like it  . i like standart browsers  . and there are too much new in ie 6. it is good.
have a nice die!
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yathosho
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 1:57 PM
nothing against IE, it's one of the best browsers around. but those SMART TAGS are evil, any way to disable those? otherwise i'll make OPERA my primary browser
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attila
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 2:21 PM
yeah.. it's all optional. As in, it's in 'options.' But Smart Tags can be disabled by doing a Custom installation.
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Attila Networksą·°
attila@deviantart.com
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flx
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 2:32 PM
How many people believe MS would have included full support (their words, I have not tested...) for CSS1 and DOM1 without Mozilla and Opera having already done it?
not i
flux
...and smart tags will not be disabled by the vast majority of IE users. How do you feel about that link to msn.com on YOUR site?
How much should microsoft pay you to put a sign in your frontyard?
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attila
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 2:37 PM
flx, that last part has me confused. If they don't want smart tags, they would most likely TURN THE OPTION OFF. Know what I mean? :/
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Attila Networksą·°
attila@deviantart.com
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kobi
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 3:25 PM
As said on zillions of places (including ie6's site), you can have a meta tag in your site to disable these "smart" tags FOR ALL USERS. It's not half as bad as some people make it seems, in fact, smart tags can be very useful.
[Kobi] http://members.nbci.com/imkobi
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superpimp
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 3:27 PM
First of all, smart tags are disabled by default. Second of all, the first news DM posts in SEVERAL days is about IE, what kind of bullshit is that?
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attila
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 3:33 PM
"Second of all, the first news DM posts in SEVERAL days is about IE, what kind of bullshit is that?" .... Huh? :/
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Attila Networksą·°
attila@deviantart.com
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attila
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 3:34 PM
You sound ungrateful... :/
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Attila Networksą·°
attila@deviantart.com
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nerotek
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 3:53 PM
came with the xp. i don't see a difference except longer window gens, and an annoying resizing feature that took forever to find and disable :/.
--*^[nero]^*--
www.nerotek.com
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tigert
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 3:57 PM
I'm using Opera and am very happy with it.
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tigert
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sirmorphix
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 4:22 PM
I am thinking I will hold out until the final version of 6 is up and running. After my "lightstep" scare, I think I've chanced enough lately
Oh, and Attila rocks!  Heh, why did I do that?
Cheers
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Sir|Morphix -- Asuka and Blue
AIM  irmorphixx
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Blue Prophecy http://www.theblueproject.net
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brub
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 5:51 PM
Most of you guys that complaint against Microsoft dislike it just because everybody else does. IE 6 as been on my Pc running Windows OS, with all of Office and a bunch more Microsoft stuff.
They made their money producing great product and like everything popular a small group of know-it-all are trying to make it look bad. IE 6 as a great interface, everything is optionnal like Attila said. Just don't install it.
Netscape and Opera hold together about 10% of the web surfer computer. 90% can't all go wrong!
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phoenix2k
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 5:55 PM
Bitch keeps on crashing on me every 15 minutes!! >
Gotta get this update, thanks for the info 
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pixelcatalyst
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 7:01 PM
any security-related concerns that we should know too?
[-]www.pixelcatalyst.com
-digitize the portal that shadows oblivion-
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sentinel
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 7:27 PM
Someone commented on it only closing window? I'm sorry, but every single time mine has crashed it kills the whole set (usually about 10 open). Is this an option somewhere? or does it just not close them all if you are a bunch of different sites (like if all the browsers i had open where NOT on deviant they all wouldn't close)
Thanks for the help, IE 6 is a major improvment over 5 once you remove all the image bar jargon.
,,
sentinel
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excitefx
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 7:31 PM
Subject 1.
I have used MS products for most of my computer life starting with DOS 5 so it's a sort of mantra to bitch about Microsoft. Its like complaining about the cable bill.
Subject 2.
I have made a few splash screens for my personal site that would lose its meaning and style if the graphics were resized...I hope that this is automatically disabled in the public final release version.
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idlejam
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 9:26 PM
whooooo.. i guess i gotta dl this. it is about time i updated anyhow.
[ idlejam ] [ iji ] [ elle ] [ tha pimp slave ]
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ashame
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Date: June 24, 2001 @ 11:41 PM
Hmm... I do like IE, but the last public beta buggered up my sys...
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Attachments are there to click on...
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starvingartist
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 12:09 AM
flx wrote:
"How many people believe MS would have included full support (their words, I have not tested...) for CSS1 and DOM1 without Mozilla and Opera having already done it? not i"
ER... Actually, Microsoft's IE 5 for Mac was the first browser released to fully implement CSS1 and DOM1, before Mozilla or Opera. And Microsoft helped created CSS1, so of course they'll back it up.
So yeah... I believe MS would have included full support for CSS1 and DOM1 without Mozilla and Opera, because, like, they did.
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xgear
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 12:12 AM
Screwed my sys up last time. I'm not touching this until its not a "preview".
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unicr0n
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 12:37 AM
flx, IE is always goin to support new things before NS/Mozilla. Why annyboddy used NS 4.7 is beond me, it was a pain in the ass for annybody trying to use frames or tables. Coding for bothe IE an NS was almost impossible and it was always NS that was the problem and alwasy will be as far as i'm concerned. I still think the new Mozilla can't compete with Opera or IE 5.x.
:: Were all casualties of life ::
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spyder-design
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 2:04 AM
I tried the IE6 preview at work a while ago and it seems to be pretty good but you don't notice *that* much of a difference... somethings were a bit annoying and I think it was really meant for XP. Maybe that has changed...
Anyway, someone mentioned all the browser windows crashing when one window does in IE. I'm a multi window person and I've found that if you use ctrl+N to make a new IE window then it is linked to all the others... if one of the browsers in the chain crashes then the rest go with it (normally). By loading new instances of IE from your desktop or wherever, it creates a separate instance of the browser that won't be taken down by a crash (at least not a minor one).
otherwise IE is the best browser there is
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altermind
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 3:23 AM
works good for me
.:defining reality:.
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essorant
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 3:24 AM
Anyone know if it works on win 95? (not my choice - it's a corporate PC). I'm currently running IE5.5 quite happily, but the MS blurb says it's for win98 upwards.
. · • · . essorant . · • · .
http://essorant.ipfox.com/
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princesnoopy
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 3:45 AM
/me lubs the new IE... im with entity i like ms... hehe bill gates sure is a good businessman I mean.. come on.. if he didnt do what he did they wouldnt be in the position they are! Its business ppls...
-- PrEeNz SnUpEe || http://www.princesnoopy.com?page=main&ID=gbook
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fisk
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 7:47 AM
It plain sucks... for general browsing: use opera, for security reasons (bank/visa deals) use MSIE 5.5 w/ SP1 ... IE6 is plain crap in comparison.
::fisk
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apbsick
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 8:23 AM
After testing it since the first Public Preview, Ver 6 is definitely more stable, faster and easier to use. The only problems i get with this new version are Winsock errors with other programs that use the wspwsp.dll file. Also, i have noticed that the Explorer Bar functions aren't in this version....
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mongoose
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 8:37 AM
so does it overwrite your current copy of IE? and I hope smart tags dissappear before the final, because I'm not in the mood to have to add that stupidly long meta tag to every one of my pages just to prevent links to MSN
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-cassius-
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 9:00 AM
mongoose: yeh it overwrites it. but the browser is so much better that ie 5.5, well, in my opinion anyway.
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iMike
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 10:38 AM
(trendwhore) DOWN WITH M$! I HATE IE!(/trendwhore)
(me)Looks pretty good will have to download it at home. NOt gonna do it here at the office cause I want like confident software when I'm developing and stuffs.(/me)
(me again)Sixers suck(/me again)
-=[iMike]=-
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adelpha
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 11:20 AM
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apbsick
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 12:08 PM
Just wanted to point out that smart-tags are actually off by default and it's so easy to turn them on or off with the little i button on the toolbar they're nothing to worry about. The image functions are great and the security features are much better now.........
Sorry but IE 6 rocks and it's not even the full version yet
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Frawgster
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 1:09 PM
Click on the Tools menu, select Internet Options and click on the Advanced tab. The option for smart tags should be under the Browsing section. Just click it to remove the X. I think that'll work. Or, you can just take the route I took. Rather than downloading a "Typical" file, select "Advanced" or "Custom" when downloading the install files, and just remove the option to download smart tags.
-Frawg-
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Frawgster
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 1:17 PM
-Netscape and Opera hold together about 10% of the web surfer computer. 90% can't all go wrong!-
90% can be wrong if the option they choose is practically shoved down their throats (As is the case with most MS products). Have you even used Opera or Netscape? In my opinion, Netscape blows, but Opera is turning out to be a really good browser. Just because a vast majority of a group of people "choose" a certain option, doesn't make that option the best. I say "choose" because MS used bundling tactics to gain significant market share...tactics that are directly related to the ongoing antitrust case. I can still remember the days when Netscape had a good portion of the browser market. They didn't lose all that market share solely because their product is inferior to IE, it had a lot to do with IE being bundled with and tied in tightly so Windows.
-Frawg-
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brub
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 4:25 PM
Just because peoples have e-mailed me about it. And Frawgster mentionned it in his post. Yes I have used Opera and Netscape. And like someone said in a earlier psot. Microsoft is a business, and business want's the biggest part of the market.
And since most of the users that are not computer wiz like a good portion of poster here. They usually go with the easiest to use. Computer company noticed that, then they offered the easiest to use.
I started on the web with Netscape back about 6 years ago. and since IE 4.0 I have never looked back. Yes it's good to be different, but the major part of the population can't be wrong.
IE rocksm, Opera is getting there, but Netscape is going downhill since ver.4
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pressf8
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 8:48 PM
Heh, if MS didn't bundle IE with windows how would you go download NS or Opera?
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pressf8
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 8:48 PM
Heh, if MS didn't bundle IE with windows how would you go download NS or Opera?
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overkill
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Date: June 25, 2001 @ 9:30 PM
for essorant -
according to cnet (browser.com): "...won't run on Windows 95 machines."
_____________________
put me to sleep. forever.
[groundEleven] http://g11.i85.net
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dro5s
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Date: June 26, 2001 @ 3:20 AM
oh no i don't want the media bar ... i know it will mess up with everything ...
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Frawgster
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Date: June 26, 2001 @ 7:37 AM
 Touche press...Good point. But still, IE is tied in very tightly to Windows. It's actually a fairly difficult task to remove it and its components completely without crippling Windows itself.
-Frawg-
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spdrmn
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Date: June 26, 2001 @ 7:44 AM
I think it'z real nice of U guyz to let MacroKrap test out it'z WareZ in U systems for free.....
I am not quite so trusting however, and will be wroking right along with my tried and tested 5.5 till I the FINAL version of 6.0 is out and I hear it'z OK. I don't like testing something az integrated as IE in my very complicated system with the chance of it phukin' up the wrokz when there'z no real reazon to do so. Why make your box N2 a guinea pig machine for MacroCrap?
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Frawgster
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Date: June 26, 2001 @ 8:07 AM
-IE rocksm, Opera is getting there, but Netscape is going downhill since ver.4-
I agree. Though, in my opinion, MS used less than ethical tactics to obtain it's current browser market position, I will admit that their browser is, hands down, the best available to us. I, like you, used Nestcape back in the day. But eventually, NS turned to crap and IE kept progressing. Opera is, as you say, "getting there." I do use it ocassionally and am fairly pleased with it. It does lack some of the functionality of IE, but it's still young and has tremendous potential.
-Frawg-
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Anonymous
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Date: June 26, 2001 @ 8:18 AM
am i the only one that finds the whole new IE reduction of screen completely annoying? I mean is everyone really that computer ignorant that we need such obtrusive navbars all over the screen?
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baranromis
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Date: June 26, 2001 @ 9:26 AM
It's sweet... I'm using it right now.. it has soooooooooo many nice functions.. like you hover your mouse over a graphic and it brings up options like save, print and et cetra.. It also includes an address book.. very very clean.. oh and the favorites bar, and the internal multimedia player ROX.
Art is a deliberate recreation of a new and special reality that grows from your response to life. It cannot be copied; it must be created. -Anonymous
BaranR
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mrfox
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Date: June 26, 2001 @ 11:17 AM
this is great, although i hope i don't have to download this, cause it would take forever so i hope i get a cd in the mail sometime!
[When your work speaks for itself, dont interrupt]
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hergs
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Date: June 26, 2001 @ 8:02 PM
Been using it for about a month now. Not too bad for a beta, especially beta from MS.
I think it was mentioned before, but yeah, the media bar doesn't keep your prefs really, keeps coming up. Other than that, when you look at an image larger than your viewing space IE automatically makes it smaller so you see the whole thing, but there is some distortion at times. If you hold your cursor over the lower right corner, an icon comes up that allows you to make it full size.
Also, when you mouseover the upper left corner, a toolbar thing pops up with a few options, good thing to have, but can get annoying (to me anyway).
At any rate, good stuff from MS, hasn't crashed once for me, pretty good for a month of use. Also, I haven't found any eggs http://www.eeggs.com yet, if you have, let me know  .
[hergs]- http://www.hergs.com
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-blah-
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Date: June 26, 2001 @ 10:35 PM
Personally, IE rules. Netscape isn't that great. I'm glad to see Microsoft continuing on their IE program. Hope it will be good!
P.S. Why doesn't Netscape support CSS well?!
-BLaH-
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flx
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Date: June 26, 2001 @ 11:59 PM
Couple of random comments...
I like IE 6..ok?
Mac IE5 was developed by a totally different group of Mac developers hired specifically to develop IE Mac from the ground up, so they were not MS indoctrinated. It is the best version of IE ever made by far.
*cough* PNG *cough*
Microsoft only helped develop the standards because they had too. Without competition they would not pay W3 any attention at all.
unicr0n:
IE will not and does not support "new stuff" before everyone else.
Opera already has awesome CSS2 and DOM2 support, and Mozilla has a decent CSS2/DOM2 implementation already. IE JUST got css1 and dom1!
I'm sure IE will catch up, but since IE seem to be tied to OS releases these days, we will probably have to wait for Window 2002/.Net or later to get it.
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menunim
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Date: June 27, 2001 @ 12:38 PM
had ie6 beta for a month or so. what's up with the media bar - useful for all of the first cupole of page views. just don't use it. simple.
i do like the fact that you can resize images that are too large for your view area. in my line of work it helps. eventually i can design galleries with full-size images.
i sent MS my two cents on everything. but that's what the betas all about - error spotting
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Anonymous
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Date: June 28, 2001 @ 7:32 PM
fuck yew
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