You've probably heard this by word of mouth, or checked him out on TRL this week, talking about this ordeal. But that's right, Sean Combs is changing his name to P. Diddy. Although he has made it big throughout the public eye as "Puff Daddy," which was a name given to him by his late friend Notorious B.I.G., P. Diddy says he is tired of his played-out name and the whole hype that was brought up around it, and is now ready for a new start with P. Diddy. He is soon to hold a ceremony for this event sometime in June. Along with artists Prince and Ol' Dirty Bastard, who have changed their names, Sean Combs says he is excited about this and cannot wait.

However, let's not forget that Prince altered his monker for legal reasons, so that he could remain somewhat artistically free.

hahah...

puff daddy sounded stupid, p diddy is even worse.

lol

blah blah blah...this isnt gonna make the fact that he's a damn criminal null and void...puff daddy, p. diddy, senor diddy...whatever he calls himself, he's the same no talent fool

-Frawg

hear hear!

only idiots would not know that p.diddy and puff daddy are the same people. this wont stop people from remebering that he is the same criminal badboy as puffdaddy ever was. what an idiot.
and a dumb name change too.

[doobybrain]

i agree.

[doobybrain]

yeah i know come on p. diddy sounds like a cartoon character. i guess he thinks that hes not going to get sued with a gay name like that

- nicolas

To play devils advocate, I doubt he'd be a multi-millionaire if he had 'no' talent. I mean face it, he's a succesful business man and producer extrodinaire. He's one of the tops in his profession so atleast give him props for that. As for his name change, bleh it's a publicity stunt, I guess he thinks people will not associate his mishaps with this new name or something similar to that affect.

Come on, this isnt anything new, remember his rock act P.Diddy2000? This is just another example of some horrible rap culture ordeal. I can go on and on with examples of freakish names,sayings, etc. For example all the "Lil"'s out there, or the God awful, and unceasingly annoying "Bling Bling". Or lets go on: the fetish with platinum, the one pant leg raised, the hat turned at multiple angles, the idolization of crime, drug use, and degradation of women. Or how about the fact that while blacks make up 12% of the US population, they make up 48 percent of the US jail system, and still rappers sing about the fact as if pride should be taken from that fact. Or how you shouldnt "love dem ho's".
There are a few intelligent rappers out there who actually do promote positive things, and try to deviate from the cultural norm, but unfortunately there rare.
And while P.Diddy is one stupid name, its nothing new in the cRAP community.

Enough venting.
Nate

Heh, considering I've seen this posting April 1... wonder if this is some April Fool's day posting I actually heard P. Daddy not P. Diddy but no matter... he's just another guy who made a few $$s and now is a spoiled brat and thinks everyone should bow down to him.

It's called a culture and in a community not everything is perfect. If there was a 'perfect' community/utopia then someone is keeping it to themselves, because so far I have seen nothing of the sort. To speak so vividly and condemning another community, you should look inward and identify with the community you belong to and ask yourself if it's any better/worse than what you're condemning. Know what I mean? Personally, I would never ramble on about a community I didn't know about, as it appears you did in this thread, but that's neither here nor there. I guess I'm beginning to ramble now but as you did, I had to vent. Thanks for hearing me out. Peace.

* Attila whipes the sleep out of his eyes

To play devils advocate, I doubt he'd be a multi-millionaire if he had 'no' talent. I mean face it, he's a succesful business man and producer extrodinaire. He's one of the tops in his profession so atleast give him props for that. As for his name change, bleh it's a publicity stunt, I guess he thinks people will not associate his mishaps with this new name or something similar to that affect.

Vince Brown (Attila)
attila@deviantart.com

reminds me of diddy kong from the super nintendo donkey kong country game. good (and positive) rappers like Black Eyed Peas, De la Soul, Jurassic 5, and Pharcyde should get more attention than that loser.

yeah lol

Nicolas (Cype)
nicolas@dmusic.com

what the hell is wrong with this guy..P-diddy..
how would ever buy his albume , p-diddy, is it an ice-cream or something..man u need to grow up..
ok..u r good rapper n all..but ...P.Diddy..that even worst then slim shaddy..

He may be a talented producer who can make money, but he isn't a good artist.

Says you.

I don't happen ta care for that genre as a whole (tho there are exceptions), but who are you ta say he isn't a "good artist." Who died and madej00 paragon of all artistic perception?

My take on it is that no one, and I mean no one, can make a success in the music industry as it currently exists and not have a talent for what they do. How can someone be a "talented producer" and not be a "good artist?" A talented producer is, by definition, a good artist.

I'm sorry, but I'm just SO sick of all these comments schmuckin' artists for havin' "no talent," etc., JUST BECAUSE the person commenting doesn't happen to like the artist's music. Listen, everybody, stop thinkin' that you're tastes are the be-all and end-all of quality music. When will you be able ta like what'cha like and let others like what they like without puttin' it down? Stop this pussy shit and have a little respect.

Milla

ergg ... YOUR tastes... (I hate when I do that)

p diddy is probably the stupidest thing ive ever heard

hehe

I agree, attila.

Yeah, at least as stupid as Blackstreet & Mya Featuring Ma$e & Blinky Blink.

Actually milladrive, there is something called aesthetics, and a general sense of artistic beauty.
Atilla, I wouldnt ramble about something unless I had thought it through and decided whether it was worth condemning. Please dont use the "none of us are perfect" routine. Thats like saying, well dont condemn him for being a thief, your not perfect either. Come on.
There are plenty of cultures that dont have anything near the problems Ive talked about. As for rambling about a culture I dont know about, I know quite a bit about both rap culture, and black culture. Please dont assume just because Ive said something against the black man that I dont know what Im talking about.

Milla, I will tell you most rappers out there have a miniscule amount of talent. It has nothing to do with liking the guys music or not, it has to do with a knowledge of music. I dont think much punk is very inspired or talented, but I enjoy it immensly. Rap and R&B is at a point right now where its very monolithic, and alot of it comes from the culture it originated. Rap now has certain guidelines you must follow or you wont succeed. I mean look at the crap Eminem got when he came out just cus he was white.

As for puff daddy, I totally respect him, and Master P, because here are 2 guys who came from nowhere and created huge record companies through hard work. I have nothing but respect for that. But I cannot respect what they produce, cus so much of it is cookie cutter, pre processed crap.
Man Im venting alot lately.

P.S. Atilla, this is nothing personal, as I respect not only your work here, but your tastes in music, and you have AWESOME picks for daily dmusic, but I do disagree with you on this issue some.

Nate
http://www.digitalobscurity.com

As to yer 1st point, beauty's in the eye of the beholder. My issue is you're settin' yerself up as an authority on fact when you're merely stating yer opinion.

W/some o'the things you said in yer post, you remind me of every single label exec who thinks he or she knows talent, and that those they think have no talent are, in fact, talentless. Remember, 1 person's annoyance is another person's joy.

Apparently, what you consider merits of talent are different from mine. I consider the talented as those who can do what they do well. What's your definition? If someone creates sump'm w/a formula, it sounds as tho you don't respect that.

I do agree w/you about r&b's monolithicity (is that a word?) in the last 10 ta 15 years, but does that mean that those who create the best of it have little or no talent? I think not. Those guidelines you speak of: do those artists succeed because the guidelines've been followed? ... or do they just say what the people who're buyin' the shit can relate with?

Either way. I hardly think they're talentless, and I can't possibly w/a clear conscience say that the best of'em have miniscule talent.

The only way I can agree w/the word "miniscule" is if we dare ta compare the topic at hand w/the classic _melodic_ sounds of Detroit, Philadelphia, and Minneapolis.

Milla, how do you define well? You say you dont set yourself up as an authority, but you do, because you obviously are telling me I am wrong.
So if I grab a spoon, some pots and start to bang about randomly, do I have talent if someone likes me? hardly. Many people have terrible taste, just cus they like someone doesnt mean that someone is talented. To study music is to know music in a way. Only when you try to perfect a skill do you recognize talent in others. I define talent as that which is as close to perfect in a skill as possible. The more complex and demanding something is the more talent you have in that feild. As for the talent levels of those in hip hop, rap, and r&b, the real talent lies in those who actually produce the music. There a very few exceptions where the rapper and the person making the music are the same person. Same with r&b. Only the singers in R&B can sing where as most rappers cant or dont. Even then most singers in r&b dont make their own music. I consider them singers, not musicians.
And when I compare talent, I compare them against classical composers such as beethoven, mozart, back, chopin, etc. Those guys were geniuses, and music has made a general slide downward since that time. If you look at the complexity, skill, design and thought woven into a classical song, you are amazed. Music now doesnt have that. There are some people who actually try to weave complexity and skill into their songs, but their rare. Most people follow the pop format of verse/chorus/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/chorus.
And its no I dont respect stuff created with a formula created for no other reason than to sell. Thats not art, thats a crap factory process.
And its one thing to create something with the intent of relating to others, and its another to just keep following the status quo, never deviating into the forien land of originality.




Nate
http://www.digitalobscurity.com

riiiiiiiiight

I only say you're wrong in laying down your opinion as fact. I never said your opinion was wrong, tho I may disagree w/it. All I said was that opinion is not fact and that talent is, like beauty, a thoroughly subjective thing.

Spoons, pots, and banging: Yes. Yes it does. At VERY least you'd have a talent for bangin' pots w/spoons!

"Many people have terrible taste..." There ya go again. I personally can't go out on a limb like that, especially since those same "many people" would probably disagree wholeheartedly, as they believe their tastes are just fine. Again, if someone's tastes are different from yours, it doesn't mean they're "terrible" tastes. If anything, many people's tastes are more narrow than they could be were they exposed ta more than just a regimented playlist on their 2 favorite radio stations. ...but "terrible?"

Talent: the natural endowments of a person; a special or often creative artistic aptitude; ABILITY. (M-W 10th Ed.) ...Says nuttin' about perfection; just ability. If you have the ability to turn someone one w/your craft, I'd say you have talent. If you can sell a million piles of your own shit, I personally think you have a talent for creatin' shit and sellin' it. Don't put such a high price on talent. It comes in all shapes and sizes.

When you compare contemporary music to classical works of geniuses, you're comparing apples, oranges, bananas, watermelon, kumquat, and about 100 other fruity goodness.

"That's not art..." Boy oh boy. Always remember the million piles of steaming ... ART. It's a thoroughly subjective word. You and I (and other somewhat normal people) would think it nothin' more than a retched pile of shit ... but there ARE others who'd think it's art. (Just building extreme examples.)

I'm certainly not sayin' you are wrong to have such high personal standards or to have obtained knowledge of "serious" music. I simply disagree and think it's wrong when people dismiss other people's creations as bein' without artistic merit or created w/no talent.

I think it might have been better to say that anyone who sings but does not write their own music is not an artist (that being someone who creates). I think a musician should be classified as anyone who puts forth any type of music through anytype of instrument including singing.

bla bla bla, he sucks we know it.
If you are so inclined to listen to rap go get something on Ninja Tunes or better yet, listen to the Beastie Boys.

black rap = no talent mumbling

BUT ... Frank Sinatra (for instance) never wrote a song. Does this mean he wasn't an artist?

How you curl your "2" can be almost as exciting and important as creating the "2" in the first place.

What a LOSER!

OK smelv1n, You are a rascist! dont deny! You have a lot of BS to say, what have you done in your life? Your just mad because you are a loser and no one cares about you! Oh...I like how you call it "Black" rap...knowing that it was Black people that invented Rap. Just because you dont something doesnt mean you have to Dis-respect people in the process...Now that I am done beating up on smelv1n, I can talk to the rest of you...Puff Daddy, or whatever you want to call him, is a "BS Artist," meaning he doesnt make "His own songs," he just adds different sounds to other Hits. If you want to call that Rap than thats your opinion, I will hold to mine.
"Children are the Future, Wu Tang is for the Babies"

Wow, and I thought "Flaming" died when BBS boards went the way of the 8-track tape...

Why don't you just say something ugly about somebody's mama...

I think we should try to help poor Mr. Combs. I suggest we try to develop some alternatives to "P. Diddy"..

"P. Doody" (he is a cRapster!)
"P. Dud-E" (poor album sales)
"J. Lo-zer" (how low do you have to be for J. Lopez, the queen of dirtball magnets, to leave you?)
"P. Dippy"
"Muff Baddy"
"Johnnie Cochran's Boy" (look ma, no glove...)
"P. Daily" (poster child for regularity)
"P. Didey" (can do Depends commercials in his old age)

Okay, gang, your turn...and leave my mother out of it...

trust us. its P. Diddy as stupid as it may sound.

[doobybrain]

the next stupidest thing has got to be that Mr. P. Diddy himself actually thinks that changing his name will make the public forget the crimes he commited as Mr. Puff Daddy. idiocy i say...

[doobybrain]

flaming will never die. flaming i think is the heart of all message posts.

[doobybrain]

I thought Puff Daddy was dumb...but P. Diddy...c'mon! That's just crazay....just cuz u change your name doesnt mean you change your REP

yes that is a case where the singer can still be an artistbut in todays pop music anyone with a voice could basically sing any of the songs that are put out today.

What is up w/ him. First he's Puff Daddy and now P. Diddy! Wonder what the difference is?
Oh I know... Puff Daddy likes Jumbo asses(J-Lo-ser), and P.Diddy doesn't(his way of saying I'm changing my name because Puff Daddy was with J-Loser and P.Diddy is a free man) Gosh That's how pathetic he is.
~Amelia~

In the words of some country band (you like country, don't you), rap is crap.

I hate music made only to sell. F*ck mainstream. F*ck 14 year olds who havn't developed a unique music tase and listen to mainstream.

yeah i aint much of a fan of diddy, but he wuz definitely a huge impact on the music and rap world. much props for that.

pockketz