"It looks bad to the observer who is not
familiar with the industry,"
That's his excuse for sending out a letter
to Shit Head. The rest of Nationwide's
approach looks bad to the observer who IS
familiar with the industry. Or the law.
June 7, 2007 -- Nationwide Collections Inc.
of Fort Pierce, Florida, is after me for a
debt "originally owed to Columbia House."
They want me to "prevent legal action" and
let me know that a judgement against me
could affect my "ability to get credit, buy
a home or car" unless I promptly pay the
balance due of...
$19.77
When I was finished laughing, I wrote back
to them (below) and asked for that elusive
thing the RIAA can never seem to produce in
court -- evidence. I hope they find some so
I can waste some more of their time.
I did have a Columbia House Music Club
account (had one at BMG Music Club, too) and
I assume the $19.77 charge is because I
still needed to buy one more CD when the
music industry turned pure evil.
I never did. A clear breach of contract. If
this charge came from any other industry,
I'd feel ethically obligated to pay it.
Before Napster I would have felt even more
obligated to pay it since I would have
thought not doing so was somehow ripping off
musicians. I made an agreement and didn't
fulfill my part of it.
Fortunately, small claims court isn't
concerned with morals, just the law.
I looked back through my checking records
and the earliest check I find to Columbia
House was in April of 1997. That means that
any agreement I signed was prior to that.
As I recall (which is why I hope Nationwide
provide actual documents), the original
agreement was to buy 5 CDs at regular club
prices in three years. By not having
purchased that last CD by April, 2000, I
became in breach of contract on or before
that date.
In these type of civil cases, this would be
"discovery," or "cause of action" -- the
earliest time I could be legally determined
to have breached said contract.
According to Arizona law:
12-548. Contract in writing for debt; six
year limitation
An action for debt where indebtedness is
evidenced by or founded upon a contract in
writing executed within the state shall be
commenced and prosecuted within six years
after the cause of action accrues, and not
afterward.
So Nationwide is like a year too late. At
least. Every state has a different statute
of limitations on written contracts, from as
little as three years (Alaska, Maryland, New
Hampshire, North Carolina, and South
Carolina) to as much as 15 years (Kentucky
and Ohio), so I could have a problem if I
lived elsewhere.
But I don't. So I sent them the following
letter:
June 5, 2007
Nationwide Collections, Inc.
805 Virginia Ave, Suite 1
Fort Pierce, Florida 34982-5881
Re: Record number (Redacted)
Dear Sirs:
I am in receipt of your June 1, 2007 letter,
which refers to "Debt of $19.77 originally
owed to Columbia House."
Having never received an invoice from
Columbia House for the amount in question,
the validity of this claim is highly
suspect, especially in light of security
breaches concerning customer records at
Columbia House as far back as March, 2001 (
http://www.zdnet.co.uk/tsearch/Security+breach+customer+records.htm). Therefore, it is
necessary to dispute the validity of this
debt.
To give this matter any further
consideration, I would need to see a signed,
dated copy of any original contract,
including the terms and conditions, plus an
itemization of all account activity from the
date of the contract to present, as well as
a description of the goods and/or services
billed for.
In the event that such documents do exist
they will be checked against the statute of
limitations for civil matters in the state
of Arizona, which have almost certainly been
exceeded and during which time absolutely no
effort whatsoever has been made by anyone to
collect the alleged debt.
You have threatened legal action (as
illustrated by the phrase "Please prevent
any legal action" on the payment form) and
harm to my credit rating ("A court judgment
could make it difficult for you to obtain
future credit" and "could affect your
ability to get credit, buy a home or a car")
over a sum of $19.77. This is a violation of
the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act.
George Ziemann
I have not heard from them since.