RaidHHI
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 5:12 PM
If you think I should shed a tear, I'll be disappointing you. He was incompetent as an Administrator from the getgo, his public "lets ban Raid" topic was a good example of it.
Now that he's gotten some negative comments from people other than myself, he wants to step down. He shouldn't have stepped up in the first place, and I for one am glad the moron isn't in command anymore.
May he fuckup some other site instead.
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independentm...
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 5:22 PM
I just talked to leflaw and he requests that I take on the administrative duties again.
I will comply.
With the stipulation that it is understood that I have less time than I did before to dedicate to the effort.
(I will do my best, but I can not quit my day-jobs. A fella and his famb dambly has to eat and pay rent y'know!)
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http://boycott-riaa (this site) will functionally remain, per our wishes, as the main center-place/focal point of the Boycott Riaa community. Functionally, nothing much here will be changed. (Well, maybe I will fix/change/eliminate all the dead links and menu items.)
The http://boycottriaa.com site will become an appendage or annex of THIS site. It will be used as a resource (replacing some of the old-dead menu items here which have been too hard for admins like me to update quickly and easily enough to be useful.)
The http://boycottriaa.com site will not have a "log-in" and/or any interactive features for now. ONLY THIS PLACE, http://boycott-riaa.com shall have "commentable articles" and "log-in" functionality. Operating as it always has done so all along and before.
More details will be passed along as soon as they are worked out.
Keep the faith!
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tomsong
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 5:26 PM
You recommended him.
It was obvious from the gitgo that he wanted to tie-in his own websites. So I am pleased that the links to all his various busiess startups are gone.
I think the only thing anybody was ever discussing was updating the rogues gallery and legislation buttons. Or even delete the top ribbon, no one esp. Leflaw don't mind.
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independentm...
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 5:40 PM
RaidHHI, I know you were a bitter enemy of Twarrior.
But please do not cruely "gloat" over your victory.
You and Twarrior's nay-sayers may have won your war against him. (Right or wrong.)
However, show some class and at least admit that Twarrior had his heart in the right place even if he wasn't sufficinet enough for the task attempted.
(Lord knows, I myself doubt my own ability at this job.)
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In other words, LAY OFF!
(RaidHHI, you yourself COULD "step up" and take an administrative role here if you REALLY wanted to help out with things on OUR side of the music/copyright wars. Just give leflaw a ring and offer your services.
Or, do you REALLY feel comfortable doing all the hacker/warez (whateverthef**kitis) ripping crap that YOU think hurts the RIAA (but I think only promotes them)?
We could use your technical talents and skills. (I think leflaw would actually PAY you for 'em if you would knock off the pseudo-illegal crap while employed.)
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independentm...
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 5:58 PM
Tom, I gave Twarrior leflaw's e-mail and contact info the same as I would give ANYONE who displayed interest in helping out this site. (Not like that stuff isn't publicly available anyways.)
Twarrior had/has website management skills (which are obvious) that I lack/lacked.
My own available time that I am able to dedicate to the Boycott Riaa effort has decreased over the past year due to my poverty and need to dig myself out of the hell of debt. (I owe almost $100,000 on student loans and old credit cards and medical debts.)
Try paying all that crap off on a minimum wage job while also paying rent because you lost your house due to an ex-wife who f**ked you over -- AND trying to be the full-time mod/admin at a website that is up against the evil RIAA.
It's f**king HARD!
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grumpygeezer
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 6:30 PM
Regarding the challenges of moderating and administering our website that's up against the RIAA and is comprised of such diverse members . . .
Hats off to those who put out efforts based on good intentions if not optimum skills (Mike, especially, but, hey, it would be hard to deny what's been said about Twarrior laboring at least for what he thought would work).
Being diplomatic and speaking charitably about the departed is a noble endeavor, but that will never be expected as the general reaction in the wake of adverse circumstances and emotionally charged
conflict.
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independentm...
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 6:36 PM
Like I said...
"flock of cats"
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grumpygeezer
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 6:50 PM
Yeah, that is just about the case, isn't it.
But, really, I wonder if a person could conceive of avoiding any compelling need for herding in the first place, while still striving to maintain the thrust and pursuit of the website's goals.
To me, that would be an existential issue.
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independentm...
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 6:55 PM
Thanks alot grumpy. I have been standing on the edge of this diving board for months and years now...
Your single "one-finger's-shove" risks sending me plunging into the deep end of the pool.
lol
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pepe512000
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 7:30 PM
I love tomsongs remark.."You recommended him"..almost a scolding there Shmoo..  Glad your willing to keep on trucking....you're good here!
Yes, Twarrior was trying...in a few more ways than necessary....but I'll go with grumpy.
So glad to see the site hang in, and I sincerely promise I'll never complain about anything here (other than the riaa's of this world) again..ever!
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leflaw
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 7:34 PM
De mortuis nil nisi bonum.
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independentm...
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 7:47 PM
I usually deserve and welcome any scoldings pepe.
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I don't understand Latin, but leflaw said something about "death" (mort) and "not" (nil) and I think (bonum) means "benefit" or "good tidings" or somesuch.
(De) is obviously equated to the English "the"
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lol, lawyers tend to speak in latin (legal terms) to confuse and befuddle the audiance.
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Folks, we are going to be ALRIGHT ...despite the loss of our most recent admin.
We WILL carry on just fine!
Never you worry! (leflaw told me in ENGLISH to charge forward!)

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grumpygeezer
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 8:10 PM
What? No one here speaks Latin?
leflaw's remark:
"Of the dead, speak no ill."
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independentm...
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 8:15 PM
Well, I was close in my translation.
(at least by feel/emotion)
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independentm...
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 8:17 PM
(and, I didn't look at any dictionary)
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pepe512000
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 9:09 PM
"Of the dead, speak no ill."? Alright leflaw..what did you do with the T-man?
On the serious side...thanks for keeping things alive here...it's a great site!
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RaidHHI
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Date: February 27, 2007 @ 11:25 PM
Independent,
"RaidHHI, I know you were a bitter enemy of Twarrior."
He chose to become an enemy... That was his choice. He didn't actually achieve enemy status until his "lets ban Raid" thread, yes, at that point, despite his good aspects, I no longer liked him...
"You and Twarrior's nay-sayers may have won your war against him. (Right or wrong.)"
Schmoo, It wasn't a war against him. I was thoughtful with posts since my ban, and I can take no credit for his decision to step down. I'm surprised he did...
"(RaidHHI, you yourself COULD "step up" and take an administrative role here if you REALLY wanted to help out with things on OUR side of the music/copyright wars. Just give leflaw a ring and offer your services.
"
Oh hell no.  Administration isn't my place. I'm not calm enough for it, I'm quick to judge and punish. So, thanks but no thanks. I know myself too well.
And I like the way this site runs now, even the posters who don't like me I have a certain appreciation for their views.
"Or, do you REALLY feel comfortable doing all the hacker/warez (whateverthef**kitis) ripping crap that YOU think hurts the RIAA (but I think only promotes them)?"
I sleep well at night, and we don't offend anyone. Well, aside from some artists mebbe? and the riaa. I have a genuine love for music and I always have. I'm sorry that you and I disagree on the following point: if it's good music (to me, because really, only the listener can judge it right?) then I'm going to acquire it to listen to. I'm going to make a copy, I'm going to load it on my mp3 player, I'm probably going to burn several audio cds of it, and yes, it will eventually be released to the scene for others to enjoy. Label affiliation if any is not important to us. We'd release Indie just as easily as Riaa material.
Leflaw was supposed to send me some boycott-riaa things last year..
"We could use your technical talents and skills. (I think leflaw would actually PAY you for 'em if you would knock off the pseudo-illegal crap while employed.)"
First of all, for a cause I believe in, I don't charge to help if I can. I believe in this cause mind you, and I wouldn't charge a cent, but I have no desire to do anything here other than be a user who might contribute financially on occasion.
I do the computer thing for a living, and I do it on my own time, all the time, I just got home from the 4th job tonight. I have to do the HHI thing, which is time consuming as well. And then theres BugHunter, a time consuming task in and of itself.
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pessimist
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 12:59 AM
"I was thoughtful with posts since my ban ..."
This is basically true.
"And I like the way this site runs . . ."
Raid strikes a harmonic chord in many of us with that sentiment.
". . . even the posters who don't like me I have a certain appreciation for their views."
You've got to give a guy credit for saying this.
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Twarrior
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 3:06 PM
Stepped down my ass. I emailed you asking to post something on my behalf, but I'll just post it here. You and I talked about this Shmoo. It is dissapointing that you would lie when I've said Leflaw REMOVED ME. I did not go against my will
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Twarrior
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 3:06 PM
I did not go willingly, it was against my will*
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Twarrior
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 3:07 PM
The True Meaning
History repetes itself once again as things come full circle. Administrator after Administrator, before me now and forever after my leave -- have been chased away by the unsolvable paradox that is Boycott RIAA. However, it's not so unsolvable. One only needs look at whats right in front of them and see it for what it is.
I am incapable of being chased away. However -- just when you're starting to make alot of headway and Leflaw lays you off -- one doesn't really have a choice in such maters. So yes, my time has come and my leave has been forced against my will. I was not told why. The silence is deafening. It speaks more than words ever shall be able. Life is perception so it really is your choice as to how you see it and navigate through it.
Some might see this perpetual and endless circle as self-sabotage on Leflaws part. I disagree. One must ask themselves "What is the true meaning of Boycott RIAA?". It's not a website. It's not Leflaw. It's not me. It's not ShadowMom. It's not Shmoo. It's not a name. It's not a face. It's an idea and ideas are immortal.
One can not touch this place and not leave filled with inspiration. One can not darken it's doorstep without making new friends. One can not enter its rooms without leaving with a wealth of knowledge.
Perhaps this virtrual residence on the Internet isn't about web design templates, or chat rooms, or spell checkers. Maybe the lack of coordination and the fighting and the trolls and desperate need for synchronized communication isn't something that defeats the purpose, but instead -- enhances it. If a thousand inspired people become disgusted with the limbo this site remains indefinately entrapped within then what do you think will happen?
They will go out and make their own websites. Their own communities. Their own successes. Inspiration not possible had they not come here and heard the most important thing to be heard -- THE MESSAGE!
If a thousand people come and say "I can do better than this place!" and so they shall -- then maybe thats what this place is all about. Not a place to coordinate and actively fight the RIAA -- but instead -- a place that motivates others to rise up on their own -- to be independent -- and to forfil their own destines and further drive back the RIAA darkness into the light.
Pessemism inspires purpose. Optimism inspires hope. Both inspire cooperation and objective.
Knowledge is what you know. Intelligence is your capacity to learn. Experience is how long you've known what you know. Wisdom, however -- is the ability to correctly use the previous three things.
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Twarrior
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 3:12 PM
"Twarrior has apparantly stepped down."
Bullshit. I was forced out by Leflaw.
"Many of you had been opposed to some of the changes he had been trying to implement. I personally didn't care for a few of those ideas myself, but I did defer and often defended him because leflaw had hired him for the job and I know his sincerity was true in wanting to help out our effort."
Yes, it was true in my desire to help.
"Everybody deserves a chance at things when they honestly want to give it a try."
Too bad my chance was revoked prematurely.
"I got an e-mail from Twarrior informing me that he was no longer going to fill the roll as the Administrator. He requested that I post his e-mail openly, but I don't feel right in doing so. (Especially since it is possible that I will end up with the job again.)"
Again, bullshit. I emailed you with the full details of Leflaw removing me. I did NOT ask you to post that email. But I did ask you post an announcement in my own words about it. Which i just had to do in the form of a comment. I would never ask anyone to post public a copy of private corospondance.
"His tone/mood however, was upbeat and positive. He placed much emphasis on the fact that Boycott Riaa is MORE-SO about that message that we have collectively always intended to convey and NOT about the personalities of the people who work for the site and/or participate in our forums."
This is the first real truth so far. What I had ask you to post I just did. It is upbeat and possitve. I don't appreciate you twisting the facts or speaking for me when I asked to be able to speak for myself. This is very dissapointing and you and I need to have a private conversation about this. I am dissapointing in Leflaw's choice but I am outright displeased with your twisting of my words and disallowing me to speak for myself when I requested you post an article -- not an email. We will talk about this later. I concider you my friend. You have just jeapordized my trust I previously had in you.
"But either way, our MESSAGE will continue. The RIAA and the evils pervasive throughout the recording industry will always continue to be criticized by those of us who "get it" and understand.
Fear not! The message continues regardless of what happens!"
This also, is true.
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Twarrior
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 3:16 PM
"Regarding the challenges of moderating and administering our website that's up against the RIAA and is comprised of such diverse members . . .
Hats off to those who put out efforts based on good intentions if not optimum skills (Mike, especially, but, hey, it would be hard to deny what's been said about Twarrior laboring at least for what he thought would work).
Being diplomatic and speaking charitably about the departed is a noble endeavor, but that will never be expected as the general reaction in the wake of adverse circumstances and emotionally charged
conflict."
Your words are wise. For as long as people decide to fight eachother as opposed to cooperate, this site will never be one where cooperation forges alliances and stratagies against the RIAA. But perhaps, as i've said, this is for the best. Perhaps these conflicts are an admission of our own flaws where as the RIAA acts as they are perfect as if they are Gods gift to the music industry. The message is whats most important. That, at least -- is being successfully relayed.
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Twarrior
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 3:18 PM
"It was obvious from the gitgo that he wanted to tie-in his own websites. So I am pleased that the links to all his various busiess startups are gone."
Not just my own but many others as well. Cooperation. Syndication. The ability to spread the message father, faster and to more people. But instead personal egos, such as yours, frown upon any sort of efficent strategy.
But thats fine. Alot has been proven in all of these events. But know the most important thing that its not about you or me or this website or that website. It's about the message. That is what some of you are so quick to forget.
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CodeWarrior
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 4:00 PM
"No one can speak ill of the dead," ...as some may know, I am a fan of the works of Kurt Vonnegut...In his work PLAYER PIANO, Kurt uses the reference meaning someone excluded from a group in power, rather than a dead person.
Remember the Zen maxim...never confuse the Moon, with the finger pointing at the moon.
~Code
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pessimist
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 5:44 PM
"Pessimism inspires purpose."
There you have it, folks!
(I should consider using that as my motto.)
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pepe512000
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 5:51 PM
Thanks Code..that makes sense.
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pessimist
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 6:09 PM
"Never confuse the moon, with a finger pointing at the moon."
Interesting.
This website has an expressed purpose.
Someone might assert that it's not directly achieving its primary goal but that the goal might still be attained in an unexpected way as a reaction to negative forces that are preventing its direct attainment.
Yeah, someone might assert that.
In fact, someone DID assert that.
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pessimist
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 6:26 PM
Pessimism is inspirational!
Wow.
(I love it.)
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Twarrior
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 6:55 PM
""Pessimism inspires purpose."
There you have it, folks!
(I should consider using that as my motto.)"
Glad I could be of help. Hehehehe. I guess my usefulness doesn't require admin status after all, eh? 
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Twarrior
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 7:03 PM
"Schmoo, It wasn't a war against him. I was thoughtful with posts since my ban, and I can take no credit for his decision to step down. I'm surprised he did..."
I didn't. Leflaw forced me out and if Leflaw says i'm gone, I'm gone. Shmoo is officially on my bad side for twisting the facts of the mater though. I won't stay mad at him forever. But what he did was so NOT cool at all. I gave him full defails of my convo with leflaw -- something i'd never ask him to post public. My ban on you was temporary and for good reason. I even appologize that it went past 2 days because people forgot. It was your choice to attempt to make an enemy of me. Either way -- as I said to Leflaw that Shmoo was privy to (this all started because I was trying to do my job and leflaw resisted coordinating with me, would not read the status updates i'd give him and other various problems -- when he said he'll take that as a resignation and he accepts, i replied with):
"It's not a resignation. I'm not a quitter. I'm telling you to let me do what you hired me to do. I have the "Get it Done" attitude it takes to get things done and i've done ALOT so far."
You know -- I was hoping to make this little peice of dramatic horse shit as peaceful as possible so that users don't get riled up at the fact that all this happened. I should have known better. So of course SHMOO has to be the one to make maters worse. Now THAT shocks me.
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Twarrior
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 7:06 PM
If leflaw doesn't want me anymore, thats fine. If he doesn't wanna tell me why he canned me, thats his perogative. But I did not step down and i will not have him nor shmoo spreading this particular lie. I will say whatever must be said to clear it up. So I hope Shmoo rectifies his error. Otherwise i'll have to do whatever it takes so that my name is not slandered.
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Twarrior
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 7:07 PM
I do not wish potential web clients to (even tho the chances of this are slim) come accross this and have this cost me a job having them thinking i'm some sort of unreliable quitter. This is public record.
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leflaw
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 9:20 PM
This is public record too:
Its a good idea in life to listen rather than talk on occasion, but it is necessary to shut your own mouth in order to do so. Otherwise, you may miss the advice that smarter people than you are trying to impart. Not rocket science. Shut up and listen. Use your ears, not your mouth.
When I tell an admin that I require a conference call, I am not playing. We thought we would do you a favor and tell the public you resigned, but if you prefer -
I FIRED YOUR ASS for incompetence, insubordination and self dealing, and refusing to get on a conference call with me. The decision was ratified by other admins as well who all thought you were out of control.
Feel better now?
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CodeWarrior
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 9:33 PM
Res Ipsa Loquitur
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pessimist
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 10:03 PM
Negligence is self-explanatory.
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Twarrior
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 10:05 PM
"This is public record too:
Its a good idea in life to listen rather than talk on occasion, but it is necessary to shut your own mouth in order to do so. Otherwise, you may miss the advice that smarter people than you are trying to impart. Not rocket science. Shut up and listen. Use your ears, not your mouth.
When I tell an admin that I require a conference call, I am not playing. We thought we would do you a favor and tell the public you resigned, but if you prefer -
I FIRED YOUR ASS for incompetence, insubordination and self dealing, and refusing to get on a conference call with me. The decision was ratified by other admins as well who all thought you were out of control.
Feel better now? "
Thank you, yes I do. Now hopefully the playing field is still fair so I'll state my possition on that.
What you concider to be insubordination was just me speaking my mind. I was not insubordinant in my statements, nor rude or anything of that nature. I did not refuse a conference call -- I offered a detailed 17 page report (which i did type) prior to the conference call. I asked first if such a report would be something useful. I also suggested i write one quarterly. I never refused to call. I said the report would mean you would have a typed copy for your records. You did not rebuttle that with "no, i'd prefer the conferencene call". You did not reject the typed report. Had you rejected the typed report and insisted on a conference call -- i'd have complied.
As far as other Admins, as well as long standing users here, etc... who know far more about the Boycott RIAA and DMusic than I do and ever will -- it has been a constant problem that it seems as though the bosses here do not care about the site. That the bosses can talk the talk, but not walk the walk. That they are not open minded to new ideas and that the bosses only care about their own personal stances on things and not about fighting the RIAA at all. It has been stated both publically and privately by Admins and users alike -- that lack of communication and coordination is a huge problem. Things are in shambles and no one will do anything about it. Also -- fighting and trolling has run rampid here for a small eternity -- to paraphrase one user "It's hard to have the courage to speak up around here because it feels like you're voulenteering for a drive bt shooting".
I find you leftlaw -- to want to talk more than listen. Willing to talk the talk but not walk the walk. You expect others to do things but won't provide the tools required. I find you irrational and unreasonable. Closed minded. Not open to communication and both DMusic and Boycott RIAA would be smashing successes if you'd just pull your head out of your ass and not be such an arrogant son of a horses patute!
Being a lawyer doesn't make you smarter than us or better than us. If you ever got off your high horse -- and not be so gosh darned arrogant -- you might learn a few things too. If you'd ever LISTEN TO YOUR USERS -- you might know what would make this site a success. As it stands -- you have enough trouble getting back to your Admins when they really need to speak with you.
You feel i'm out of control and thats fine. But i feel you need to be more in control -- and to do that -- you need communication and coordination. Something i tried to peteition for. Something I WAS FIRED FOR PETITONING FOR!
If Boycott RIAA was a "real company" it would be a joke. I've worked in corporate stuctures and as ass backwards as they can sometimes be -- they do have mostly efficent protocols and a good flow of communication and structure.
This place lacks all of it.
Now i'm not going to be a hypocrite about everything I said about fighting hindering productive comments on this site. So I do honestly thank you for your post. It does clear everything up and I appreciate it. I am not angry with you and I appluad your willingness to speak your mind. I hope you appreciate my honesty as well.
So i'll say no more about this. Case closed. We can now move on to more productive topics than my removal. After all -- this is Boycott RIAA. Not rant to / with Twarrior.
Thank you all (the other readers) for your tollerance on this as well. This topic is ended.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled BRIAA stuff.
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pessimist
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 10:12 PM
Isn't there another Latin phrase that comes to mind about now?
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pessimist
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 10:22 PM
Abyssus abyssum invocat
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pessimist
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 10:24 PM
With this reservation:
Absit omen
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RaidHHI
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 10:41 PM
Twarrior,
" I don't appreciate you twisting the facts or speaking for me when I asked to be able to speak for myself."
Heh. It's an irritation. Atleast it wasn't several days before you could try to set the record straight. Like I said last night, I was surprised you had stepped down, it wasn't as I had the impression of you doing....
" My ban on you was temporary and for good reason. "
Your ban was not really for a good reason. I proved you were incompetent, I was just a dick about the way I did it. I don't really even know why you responded to my comments. You and I are not friends, and we never were. If you think for some odd reason that I feel in the least bit sorry for your firing, you've thought wrong. I don't care now anymore than I did before your silly ban.
"So i'll say no more about this. Case closed. We can now move on to more productive topics than my removal. After all -- this is Boycott RIAA. Not rant to / with Twarrior."
Really? Wasn't it you, the first admin I know of since I've been coming here to create a thread dedicated to ranting/banning a user of this site?
Perhaps your not old enough to know this phrase, Be nice to those you meet on the way up, they are the same people you will meet on the way down.
And yes, you are a hypocrite. If I was nearly the ass you are, I'd keep going with this rant thread. leflaw was right, you should have just kept your mouth shut and let the resignation story go. Independent was trying to do your stupid ass a favor.
Now that your a normal user, please do me a favor? Write your comments for an article in notepad. You can make whatever spelling/other editing changes you wish to make, and make one long post rather than 15-20 little ones. Ok?
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RaidHHI
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 10:42 PM
Twarrior,
"Thank you all (the other readers) for your tollerance on this as well. This topic is ended."
Wait, aren't you going to strike up a plead for support from the loyal readers? Don't you remember how it goes? C'mon, you do, you wrote it once for my removal....
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RaidHHI
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 10:45 PM
I'm sorry people, but seriously. Twarrior is a horses ass, and Leflaw has finally stated he feels the kid is incompetent as several of us more technical individuals have already pointed out...You remember, the ones you called trolls and such, because we didn't think highly of mr Twarrior.
Those of you who participated in my banning discussion based on, heh, advice from the former admin, I just have one simple question for you: How does it feel to be such a dumb shit?
By the way, I wasn't banned for anything more than being hostile with Twarrior. And frankly, as you can see now, he may not have deserved it as viciously as I gave it, but it did deserve to be ripped apart.
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leflaw
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 11:12 PM
I was paying Twarrior, not vice versa. News flash. That makes me the boss.
So when the boss says have a nice cup of shut the fuck up, and all you get is sassy bullshit...
Well folks, anyone who thinks they want to admin the place, contact me or independent Gypsy.
PERSONS WHO STILL LIVE WITH THEIR PARENTS NEED NOT APPLY.
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leflaw
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 11:15 PM
Ps:
Anybody want to buy a detailed 17 page report on chat servers?
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leflaw
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 11:15 PM
pps:
Who the hell is Joseph's Jewelers?
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RaidHHI
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 11:16 PM
"So when the boss says have a nice cup of shut the fuck up, and all you get is sassy bullshit..."
If you have any brains, you shut the fuck up.
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RaidHHI
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 11:18 PM
Tomsong,
"You recommended him."
Ahh... Be glad my friend that I don't despise you as I do Twarrior. I'm going to forgive and forget your previous comments concerning me... This time.
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kyodylee
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 11:37 PM
Raid said to Twarrior: "Wasn't it you, the first admin I know of since I've been coming here to create a thread dedicated to ranting/banning a user of this site?"
Well, actually, just to set the record straight, no Twarrior wasn't the first. And Raid, you've been here long enough to know. But we'll just let sleeping dogs lie on that one, right Grumpy?
Also, Twarrior, I never for a minute thought that you resigned. Just ain't
your style. So I figured something else was going on behind the scene. But I also think that is where it belonged - behind the scene. And I think that is exactly what Shmoo was trying to accomplish. He wasn't deliberately lying, he was just trying to not air out all the dirty laundry. As Raid so eloquently put it: "Independent was trying to do your stupid ass a favor."
And Raid, I know you feel vindicated now, and rightly so, but taking the high road would just shine so much more brightly on you. Not advice, just an opinion. 
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leflaw
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 11:45 PM
Right. Behind the scenes.
On the otherhand, some people have to be exhibitionists.
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leflaw
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Date: February 28, 2007 @ 11:49 PM
And to say that the bosses here don't care about the site is 180 degrees wrong. We care about it enough not to let some nut job run off with it.
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kyodylee
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 12:11 AM
And Leflaw is da boss and let's not forget he is the one who puts his money where his mouth is.
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 12:28 AM
All in all I think everything worked out for the best for everyone. Yes, including me. Leflaw has every right to view the situation the way he views it, I have every right to see it as I see it and as for the spectators -- they've the right to their own opinions about it. However -- my side being my interperetation and Leflaws side being his -- I think there is a universal wisdom to be pointed out:
"There are three sides to every story. Your side, their side -- and the truth".
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 12:29 AM
"And Raid, I know you feel vindicated now, and rightly so, but taking the high road would just shine so much more brightly on you. Not advice, just an opinion.  "
I hope he does feel vindicated. I'd be unimpressed if he didn't.
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 12:32 AM
"pps:
Who the hell is Joseph's Jewelers?"
My main top client. A really good guy. The banners at the top is the Ad Exchange I was going to impliment as being run by this site -- but i'm still going to run it of my own accord. If you still wish to be in it, your welcome to be. If at any time you wish any Boycott RIAA or DMusic Advertisement Banners (other than the ones that are already there) please feel free to email them to me and i'll impliment them. They'll be showed on all member sites of the exchange.
If you do not wish to be in the exchange -- simply remove the HTML Code that puts the banner there -- and it will go bye-bye.
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 12:35 AM
There was alot more in my report than the IRC Stuff. Alot more. The details of the ad exchange were among it. Feel free to read up on it if your curious. But if you wish to remove the exchange, of couse feel free. It's in the main templates file in umm... the /templates/ sub directory, I do beleive. There are a bunch of duplicate dirs and files and such thats why it took me awhile to find out what to edit because i had to find what and where it all was.
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 12:38 AM
"And to say that the bosses here don't care about the site is 180 degrees wrong. We care about it enough not to let some nut job run off with it."
The ones who claim complete sanity are the ones who are truly insane. The ones who admit their level of insanity are the ones who are not deluding themselves. Everyones got issues.
The ability to accpet peoples flaws knowing you have your own and focus only on the good things is how productivity happens. But being so smart as you are, I'm preaching to the chior, i'm sure 
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 12:40 AM
"PERSONS WHO STILL LIVE WITH THEIR PARENTS NEED NOT APPLY."
How mature. A wise man is one who realizes just how big of a fool he truly is.
Besides -- not all of us are rich Lawyers and this economy isn't the greatest at the moment. I was out on my own until the 9-11 shit hit the fan. I am glad you do not and will never have to know how difficult it can be for "the other half". You are truly blessed.
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 12:46 AM
"Right. Behind the scenes.
On the otherhand, some people have to be exhibitionists."
Yep. Like keeping a closed topic going and using juvanile pokes and prods to do it
I guess brevity isn't nessesarily the soul of witt. I wish you were this outspoken when I was working for ya. lol
By the way -- just a side note -- I have found and been playing with a CMS that seems to do most everything that people want. Chatbox. The ability to edit comments after they've been posted. Etc... most of the features people wanted are there and its infinately better than Joomla. I was going to inform you that I had found it but there was this thing about getting "my ass" fired that destracted me from doing so.
The CMS is called e107 and can be found at http://www.e107.org ... when you find someone who doesn't live with his parents and knows well enough to not voice his opinions (that obviously not being me) then you might wish for them to check out this really cool CMS.
The rest of you here should look at the demo they got online. It really is nice. I've been playing with it and it ROX!
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 12:52 AM
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leflaw
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 12:53 AM
I must have hit a nerve, eh?
You are truly a troubled individual with a huge chip on your shoulder. I have reviewed all our correspondence and I stand by everything I have said.
You should inform your pal at Joseph Jewelers to expect an advertising bill.
Don't piss in my face and tell me its raining.
We will get to the bottom of this. If I find that you took one dollar of advertising revenue for putting any ads on this site, I will come after you criminally.
And you actually expected me to let you run an our ad system on your servers? You are insane.
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leflaw
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 12:54 AM
Q.E.D.
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leflaw
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 12:56 AM
Ps:
I WAS outspoken when you were working for me. You just didn't notice because you wouldn't shut the fuck up.
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 1:03 AM
"I must have hit a nerve, eh?
You are truly a troubled individual with a huge chip on your shoulder. I have reviewed all our correspondence and I stand by everything I have said.
You should inform your pal at Joseph Jewelers to expect an advertising bill.
Don't piss in my face and tell me its raining.
We will get to the bottom of this. If I find that you took one dollar of advertising revenue for putting any ads on this site, I will come after you criminally.
And you actually expected me to let you run an our ad system on your servers? You are insane."
No one has paid me anything for anything. I'm still developing the ad system. Simply remove it. I explained how. No one has given me a dime.
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leflaw
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 1:05 AM
That's a relief.
(for you, that is.)
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 1:05 AM
You also can't send Joseph a Bill for something he did not do. Simply be reasonable and remove the ad code for what was going to be YOUR AD SYSTEM or temporarily give me the access back to remove it myself. Thanks.
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 1:06 AM
I implimented this BEFORE you fired me. When it was going to be YOUR ad system.
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 1:14 AM
FYI -- someone who would i dis my financial state and threaten sueing me over something so trival is not someone i'd want to work for. I concider being fired a blessing. If you need help removing the ad exchange above I will be beisides myself with joy to render assistance.
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 1:15 AM
who would dis*
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 1:15 AM
Please let me know if you need help removing it. More than happy to help.
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leflaw
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 1:52 AM
They were right. I was wrong.
You are an insufferable asshole. You've already embarrassed yourself enough.
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 2:05 AM
Your entitled to your opinion.
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Twarrior
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 2:09 AM
FYI -- i just deleted the ad campaign. thats why the ad is no longer shown. a small inconvenience even tho i'll have to re-set all that up under a different campaign. so the code is still there. it just doesnt do anything anymore.
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pessimist
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Date: March 1, 2007 @ 11:16 PM
Alright, this it: THE ultimate Latin phrase that aptly describes our BRIAA website —
Concordia discors
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leflaw
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Date: March 2, 2007 @ 5:10 PM
No...
Gallia est divisa in partes tres...
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pessimist
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Date: March 2, 2007 @ 7:52 PM
"Gallia est divisa in partes tres" —
Do you mean to say our website is like a three-part system? Or, are you referring to three major divisions of thought that pervade it?
When I wrote "Concordia discors"
as being the ultimate description of BRIAA,
I was addressing the "discordant harmony" aspect
of how so many different viewpoints
among readers/members are evident,
yet there still can be a striving toward
the major goal of boycotting the RIAA.
("Concordia discors")
BTW:
As contrasted with how Mike often feels,
I don't see it necessary for him weigh himself
down with an impossible task of "herding cats."
Objectives can still be achieved without
walking on water.
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pepe512000
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Date: March 3, 2007 @ 12:30 AM
"Gallia est divisa in partes tres" —
Do you mean to say our website is like a three-part system? Or, are you referring to three major divisions of thought that pervade it?
Ok, I've just thrown out that Lain translator I have..I thought he was talking about three hens in some trees or some such thing...
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pepe512000
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Date: March 3, 2007 @ 12:30 AM
Latin, Latin translator...yipes.
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Twarrior
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Date: March 3, 2007 @ 7:25 PM
What we've all missed until maybe now is that just the fact that BRIAA exists, the objective is being acheived and that the rest is irrelevent. It's the message, not the website in and of itself, thats important. Websites come and go but ideas are immortal.
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