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Posted by OtherMike (Shmoo) in on July 21, 2006 at 7:41 PM



The previous version of this item is at:

http://www.boycott-riaa.com/article/20025

I started this new 'Welcome' thread simply because it "felt like" and "seemed" time to do so after so long.

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NOTE TO NEW VISITORS:

The new site and the old site (where you are now) use different user registrations. (Sorry about the confusion.)

Don't bother trying to post here at the old site unless you have a working DMusic account already. Just use the NEW site from now on. (Leave these old pages to the old-timers who wish to continue using them for the time being.)

Go to:

http://www.boycottriaa.com



User Comments

Otherindependentm...
Date: May 25, 2006 @ 5:45 AM
BTW, the "Off Topic" thread will be the same as the "Welcome" thread at the top of the new site from now on (and until further notice!)
Otherindependentm...
Date: May 25, 2006 @ 5:47 AM
Most of the articles you will find here at the old Boycott Riaa from now on will be "spill-over" from DMusic's Industry News Section.
DMembergfmlcka
Date: May 25, 2006 @ 6:25 AM
Mike, how long until registration kicks in?
I get invalid username/password.

PS. MPAA caught w/pants down:

http://news.com.com/2100-1030_3-6076665.html?part=rss&tag=6076665&subj=news

Otherindependentm...
Date: May 25, 2006 @ 7:15 AM
Your user/pass should work now gfmlcka (for some reason while I was working on the new comment feature, your user account was turned off, but you are back on now!)

:) (Smile)
Otherindependentm...
Date: May 25, 2006 @ 8:29 AM
Reminder to the "old-timers":

The new site and the old site (where you are now) use different user registrations.

If you have NOT created a new user account at the new site, your username and password won't work there (until you register it!)
DMembergfmlcka
Date: May 25, 2006 @ 10:02 AM
Works now, tnx.
RockgdZiemann
Date: May 25, 2006 @ 5:33 PM
Well, since comments are enabled, I guess I'll have to migrate over.
DMemberisaacfeagin
Date: May 25, 2006 @ 10:29 PM
i dont know where to put these since the new sites up...but i wrote 2 new rants/articles on my blog

[/url]http://blog.myspace.com/isaacfeagin[/url]
DMembergfmlcka
Date: May 26, 2006 @ 1:37 AM
DMemberOldCodger
Date: May 26, 2006 @ 5:46 AM

Mitch Braindead said: "Nobody has a problem with DRM and copy protection."

Yeah, just like nobody has a problem with your RIAA, you clueless excuse for a corporate chairman.

DMemberOldCodger
Date: May 26, 2006 @ 5:47 AM

P.S. I'm not making a migration over to the new site; this old site contains articles the new one doesn't.
DMemberOldCodger
Date: May 26, 2006 @ 6:22 AM

Can you believe the RIAA also had the gall to say:
"DRM has gotten a bad rap based on a notion that it's going to restrict consumer choice."

The RIAA is aware that "notion" is correct; DRM does restrict consumer choices (always has, always will).
The RIAA must think reporters and consumers are stupid.
Or, maybe they just wish they were.
Or, maybe they don't give a rip, anyway, since they've got Congress-critters to write laws they like.
Otherindependentm...
Date: May 26, 2006 @ 10:34 PM
OldCodger
Date: May 26, 2006 @ 5:47 AM

P.S. I'm not making a migration over to the new site; this old site contains articles the new one doesn't.
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Only because I haven't posted them over there yet. (Sometimes I will beat leflaw or whomever to the punch ...and sometimes he will beat me. Just depends on who's online when.)

I hope you and everybody does migrate, but you can hang out here if you want for as long as leflaw decides to keep the old place open. (Just remember that most anything else that gets posted as an article/thread from now on will only be "spill-over" articles from the DMusic frontpage Industry news section. By default, this old site has always just been a mirror of that DMusic forum all along ...which I and previous admin only had ability to ADD things to separately.)

The new site is already much better as is. (I promise)

AND we have more direct and easy ways to continually update and improve it.
DMemberisaacfeagin
Date: May 27, 2006 @ 2:27 PM
MIKE! i cant login at the new site...ive tried every password ive had for the past 5 years...it aint workin...but anyways

this is a petition for "clean elections"...in other words...no more contributions from big business to candidates campaigns

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/490055534
DMemberOldCodger
Date: May 28, 2006 @ 6:21 AM

Shmoo, I don't see where to register at the new site.
DMemberOldCodger
Date: May 28, 2006 @ 6:21 AM

Shmoo, I don't see where to register at the new site.
DMemberOldCodger
Date: May 28, 2006 @ 6:31 AM

(rather, HOW to register at the new site — I can't get the registering function to work for me)
DMemberOldCodger
Date: May 28, 2006 @ 6:41 AM

Specifically: Over at the new site, once you click the register button, there's no response (at least from my non-standard browser.) I wonder if newbies find that aspect frustrating. There should be some automatic acknowledging response once a person clicks that button, if even it were to say:
"Please wait until an administrator manually registers you later. (Automatic registering process not yet activated. Thanks for your patience.)"

Just a suggestion.
IntermediateDreddsnik
Date: May 28, 2006 @ 11:03 AM
"P.S. I'm not making a migration over to the new site; this old site contains articles the new one doesn't. "

Been spending most of my time at the new site.
Yes, it's different.
Right now some of the articles aren't there, but ....
It's a weaning process.
I am working hard to wean myself away from this one, to the new one.
DMemberOldCodger
Date: May 28, 2006 @ 1:53 PM

While the process of us being drawn over there is going on, I've been dragging my heels a bit.


Otherindependentm...
Date: May 29, 2006 @ 12:07 PM
Yes, you do have to wait for admin to manually approve the registration at the new site. (There is no "automatic" registration function at the moment. You WILL probably get a blank page after you register.)

But here's the direct link:

http://www.boycottriaa.com/index.php?option=com_registration&task=register
Otherindependentm...
Date: May 29, 2006 @ 12:14 PM
after you get the blank page, just click "go" or hit enter and it takes you back to the main-page.

I do need a valid e-mail to send you notification that your registration is approved.

(Don't worry folks, I won't share your e-mail with anyone ever ...unless you specifically ask me to do so for some reason.)
DMemberOldCodger
Date: May 29, 2006 @ 7:34 PM

"I do need a valid e-mail to send you notification that your registration is approved."

. . . as was previously needed at the old site as well.
No problem.

HOWEVER: The old site didn't require a person's name for registration (it was optional), but the new site does!
What gives?
:-( (Frown)
IntermediateDreddsnik
Date: May 29, 2006 @ 8:06 PM
-= Disclaimer:This is just my opinion. =-
- As such I'm NOT suggesting any comment following -
- this preface is true. In fact I live in a fairy-tale -
- and nothing I say should be taken seriously. -


"HOWEVER: The old site didn't require a person's name for registration (it was optional), but the new site does!
What gives?
:-( (Frown) "


The name I used to sign up was simply ...

Mr.
DMemberOldCodger
Date: May 29, 2006 @ 8:48 PM

And it went through okay?
(My compliments to your resourcefulness.)
Otherindependentm...
Date: May 29, 2006 @ 10:42 PM
OldCodger, did you not READ my notice right next to where it asks you to Register? lol

It clearly says to use a nickname or alias if you don't feel comfortable using your full real name.
DMemberOldCodger
Date: May 30, 2006 @ 12:06 AM
Mike;

I'm saying that the notice you refer to is in the wrong place. It's next to the log-in of an already-registered person.

I didn't go there first, because I knew I needed to register, so naturally I was unaware of that notice.
I found no such notice at the place where the initial registration takes place (at the link that you furnished at your post of 12:07 today on this thread).

Check these things out, and let me know if I'm wrong or not. And I'm not trying to play "Gotcha!" with you; just wondering if it might help to make an adjustment for the sake of others who apply for registering.
DMemberOldCodger
Date: May 30, 2006 @ 12:10 AM

Of course, those who happen to see the place where an already-registered member is to log in, those folks will get to see your notice. But I didn't; I followed a link directly to the registration area where there's no notice.
Otherindependentm...
Date: May 30, 2006 @ 10:15 PM
Hmm...

Not sure what you mean. That direct link above skips the front page of course, but on the very front page of the new site ( http://www.boycottriaa.com ) has the notice writen right under the register button.

If you are already logged in at the site you won't see the notice.
DMemberOldCodger
Date: May 30, 2006 @ 11:27 PM

"That direct link above skips the front page."

Yep, and thus I didn't see the notice because I used that direct link (that you gave at 12:07 p.m. yesterday) to the new site from this old site. The notice isn't on that page for registering (where that direct link takes you).

But, actually, no real biggie.
Folktomsong
Date: June 4, 2006 @ 10:15 PM
Great article by Fred von Lohmann and Wendy Seltzer that studies the harm that 8 years of DMCA has done to stifle innovation. And not one shred of evidence of deterring file sharing!

http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/jun06/3673
DMembergfmlcka
Date: June 5, 2006 @ 2:07 PM
tnx tomsong, it was a great article.

The entertainment cartels need to pull their heads out of their collective asses and realize three thing if they are to avoid extinction:

1) The harder they tighten their grip on content the less control they will have over it.
Any second year electrical engineering student with some time on his hands can defeat the protection measures then BAM,
its all over P2P which will be anonymous, encrypted and onion routed.

2) Entertainment is a luxury that can be had without the likes of them.

3) The so called "representatives" who introduce such appalling legislation will find their political careers in jeopardy once joe sixpack finds out he's been chumped.

Hollywood can burn in hell for all I care.
DMemberIFeelFree
Date: June 6, 2006 @ 4:28 PM
Are music publishers getting ready to stick it to US consumers?:

Will "fair use" be fundamentally redefined this week?
DMemberIFeelFree
Date: June 6, 2006 @ 5:28 PM
Remember Hillary Rosen? The former CEO of the RIAA is now against the RIAA suing its customers. Furthermore, "she also said that the industry should reconsider its position on copy protection and digital rights management (DRM), particularly proprietary DRM systems such as that employed on iPods."

RIAA ex-CEO questions use of individual lawsuits

How unfortunate that she didn't have such an enlightened view when she ran that organization?
DMembergfmlcka
Date: June 7, 2006 @ 5:42 PM
It's about time.

http://www.pirate-party.us/

5 yr copyright, ban DRM and no infringement penalty for non-commercial use sounds pretty good to me.

I know it doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell without major funding but it is a baby step in the right direction.
RockgdZiemann
Date: June 7, 2006 @ 6:14 PM
When everyone looks back to see how the recording industry began on its self-destructive path of greed, arrogance, and hatred for the music-listening public, they'll find that it was Rosen pointing the way. She was the one who initiated DRM and copy protection.

If any one person deserves the blame for poisoning the industry, it's Hilary Rosen.
DMembergfmlcka
Date: June 7, 2006 @ 9:00 PM
DMemberIFeelFree
Date: June 8, 2006 @ 5:10 PM
News flash! Sony states the obvious: They can't stop P2P filesharing.

Sony Exec: Music Industry Is Losing The Battle Against Piracy

"There was broad agreement by the participants that consumers, particularly among youth today do not feel that copying music or movies is stealing, and that the industry has a long way to go to combat the issue."

That's because its not stealing. Its copyright infringement, and copyright laws in the U.S. are whacked. Want to compete with filesharing? Here's how:

1) Sell a wide variety of music at high bit rates, without DRM, and without incompatible formats.

2) Charge a reasonable price that is more in line with the costs of online distribution. As a benchmark, consider AllOfMP3.com which charges about 10 cents for a 192 kb track.

3) Treat consumers with respect instead of contempt.

Of course, the music industry would much rather sue customers and restrict technology with DRM. Therefore, the stalemate will continue.
DMembergfmlcka
Date: June 8, 2006 @ 6:49 PM
Except it isn't a stalemate, they're one move (anon P2P) from losing their queen (ability to sue for infringement). Once that happens the game is over.
DMembergfmlcka
Date: June 13, 2006 @ 11:04 AM
Filesharing "contained" according to Bainwol.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/services/2006-06-12-riaa_x.htm

Yeah, it's about as contained as my laughter at the headline.
AdvancedDeadMan2003
Date: June 13, 2006 @ 5:47 PM
Good. So can they stop sueing old grannies, children, deaf people and dead people now?
Advancedpepe512000
Date: June 13, 2006 @ 7:35 PM
File sharing contained...that's pretty funny..Maybe they just need an excuse to get out of suing people, without having it look like they're losing the battle.
AdvancedDeadMan2003
Date: June 20, 2006 @ 1:17 PM
DMembergfmlcka
Date: June 21, 2006 @ 9:47 PM
This one keeps rearing it's ugly head :

http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/475

DMembergfmlcka
Date: June 25, 2006 @ 1:09 AM
Some XM radio stuff:

http://www.xmradio.com/lineup/openletter.jsp?refsrc=hp_ex


".........And unlike download services, XM subscribers never own the programming that they record from XM - it cannot be burned to a CD, transferred to other radios or uploaded to the internet."

Wrong on all four counts.
Good thing you're peddling this crap to clueless RIAA execs or else your sorry ass would be laughed out of the meeting.
DMemberPipzUK
Date: June 26, 2006 @ 10:49 AM
sob, the new site won't let me in but if I try to register it tells me I'm already registered!

Anyway, I was going to post this link there but I can't so it'll have to go here instead....

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/06/26/uk_music_dloads_via_dab/

and as predicted by luminaries on here a long time ago, the "press to pay" button is finally upon us!
DMembergfmlcka
Date: June 27, 2006 @ 11:03 PM
Our buddy Hatch at it again :

http://www.salon.com/wire/ap/archive.html?wire=D8IGRFPO0.html

When is this asshat going to get it through his thick skull that freedom of speech includes speech that some may not like? What a maroon.
DMemberCriticalCodger
Date: June 28, 2006 @ 1:47 AM

As far as his opinionated perspective is concerned, perhaps he would be inclined to allow any kind of speech . . . that's in agreement with him.

(*disgust*)
DMembergfmlcka
Date: June 28, 2006 @ 5:27 AM
Seriously, is flag burning or gay marriage even an issue for most people?
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: June 28, 2006 @ 2:44 PM
Let's see, Orrin Hatch wants to protect the flag, but keep gays from getting married...I think he talks to himself too much.
DMembergfmlcka
Date: June 28, 2006 @ 8:35 PM
"Our freedom is never in more jeopardy than when Congress is in session." To paraphrase Sam Clemens.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060628-7151.html

Broadcast flag good, net neutrality bad Stevens says. But only for his corporate donors not the vast majority of the public.
Another step down Fascist Road.
AdvancedDeadMan2003
Date: June 30, 2006 @ 1:56 PM
I can't get the new webshite to work properly in Mozilla Seamonkey with Multizilla plugin. All I get are blank pages when I try to submit a weblink.

So in case you missed it.

Spain impose copyright levy on removable storage.

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/6672/Spain+Adds+'Copyright+Tax'+to+Blank+Media

and

Broadcast Audio Flag Debate Heats Up

http://billboardradiomonitor.com/radiomonitor/news/business/leg_reg/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002763427
AdvancedDeadMan2003
Date: June 30, 2006 @ 1:57 PM
I was referring to the new www.boycottriaa.com not working very well with Mozilla. Just in case you wondered what I meant.
AdvancedDeadMan2003
Date: June 30, 2006 @ 2:06 PM
Haha!


Get insured against being sued by the music cartels!

http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9209
AdvancedDeadMan2003
Date: June 30, 2006 @ 2:34 PM
French Lawmakers approve 'iTunes Law'

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/13621
AdvancedDeadMan2003
Date: July 1, 2006 @ 3:56 PM
Intellectual Property is Intellectual Theft ... at Gun Point

http://www.counterpunch.org/smith06302006.html
DMembergfmlcka
Date: July 1, 2006 @ 7:40 PM
Good counterpunch article DeadMan.

"The Flag just sailed through the Senate's commerce committee without a recorded vote, a pretty sure sign of bipartisan ownage by the relevant lobby"

More than just about anything else this is what galls me about our government. Special interests write legislation which is in nobody's interest but that special interest, they then bribe 'representatives' to pass that legislation into law and the vote isn't even recorded so the people most affected
don't even know if their congresscritter sold them out or not.

Ban lobbying by corporate interests, it's almost always bad law that comes of it.
DMemberCriticalCodger
Date: July 2, 2006 @ 6:12 AM

Most of our sheeple don't know or care about things until they are personally affected. By then, it's too late to do much about it. The few that do know or care can easily become disgusted and cynical (like me), because our government no longer truly serves or is responsive to its citizens except when it has little choice otherwise....and that seems to be a rare occurrence. Mainstream media frequently is part and parcel of the problem.
Typically, government bows to corporate interests or expands its base of authority or falls in line to pay homage to the push for globalism.
Yes, we desperately need to ban lobbying by special interests, but those very interests will prevent the badly needed reform from passing even if a bill for such were to reach the floor of Congress through valiant efforts on the part of some concerned citizens like us (or like I used to be before I all but gave up hope).
Hence, the chances for change are miniscule, and continued pessimism is justified. The way I see it, only God could bring about substantial improvement. So, that being the case, I suppose as long as there's life left there is always a glimmer of hope and we can still pray for a miracle.
DMemberCriticalCodger
Date: July 2, 2006 @ 6:15 AM

If anyone thinks I'm wrong about my assessment of the situation, I'll be open to listen to any good reason why.
Otherindependentm...
Date: July 2, 2006 @ 7:22 PM
Folks, at the NEW site when you submit items (and, I think, even when you first register as a member/user) all you will see for confirmation is a blank page. (You can kick me for being a dumbass non-techie for STILL YET not having figured out how to put a "link recieved" message of some sort on that blank page. I'm STILL working on it.)

...but most of your sent in items DO seem to be gettin thru. (I still have to manually/physically approve them ...so it might take a day or 2 before they get posted. Please be patient.)

You DO have to have a user account/membership at the new site before it will work tho.
AdvancedDeadMan2003
Date: July 3, 2006 @ 11:45 AM
Thanks for letting us know
DMembergfmlcka
Date: July 5, 2006 @ 3:14 PM
Interesting goof on those stupid MPAA warnings starring all our favorite scumbags:

http://ia301217.us.archive.org/1/items/Abuseofpower/AbuseofPower.mov

Burn Lay burn.
Folktomsong
Date: July 6, 2006 @ 6:28 PM
Hilary Rosen has been named designated hitter to confront Joe Lieberman on tonight's MSNBC debate with Ned Lamont.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13085442/#060706a

Invitation for comments are here:

Hardblogger@msnbc.com

Here are my comments.

Hilary, your own actions (in the immedaite aftermath of 9/11) to put the internet in the pocket of Ashcroft, and hire torture advocates such as John Yu, Ted Olsen and David Israelite, make you a pariah.

You got your blood money.

Like OJ Simpson, you should just disappear fom public view.
DMemberIFeelFree
Date: July 13, 2006 @ 7:41 PM
The defendent in a file sharing case requests the evidence against them in court and the RIAA folds like a house of cards! They even have to pay court costs.

The RIAA Loses in File Sharing Case

DMemberCriticalCodger
Date: July 26, 2006 @ 8:37 AM

Two interesting (not) links at the Google advertising area on our site's news page a few minutes ago:
"Catch Illegal Downloaders"
"IP Attorneys"

Hmm.
DMembergfmlcka
Date: July 27, 2006 @ 9:05 AM
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