Message: Hi

Yea i got a few comments on your organization here.......

first of all your whole idea and concept is a complete joke..

do you think you'll actually change the laws to make piracy legal? thats rediculous.....the RIAA didn't create piracy laws the united states government did............

I own a record label and its a small label.........I have nothing against big record labels.....What your saying about how big labels own the market and people shouldn't buy there albums they should buy albums from smaller labels instead to stop feeding the monsters..............

that tells me you don't know shit about how marketing works........Nothing is stopping people from buying those cd's from small labels.........Sony and other big labels don't restrict those small labels from putting there cd's at big distributors like Best buy walmart or sam goody........thats the responsibility of the marketing department at the small label.....its all about selling the client (Artist) to the distributor...If they can convince the stores that there client will sell they will buy..........Remember its not the size of the dog in the fight that matters is the size of fight in the dog.........Yes the big labels have a bigger bank account but thats because they know how hot market...........

Why don't you take a course in marketing and businss before you decided to start bashing the laws of america.......Allowing piracy will do nothing but hurt the music industry........that money thats earned from cd sales don't just go to the musician.........People down the chain need to eat just like everybody else...........

Why don't you do us all a favor and shut up while you are still behind...........Just gonna make a further ass of out of yourselfs.......

(E-mail adress and other info withheld by admin)

...maybe it was unfair of me to post something like this from one of our detractors that was obviously writen while drunk.

(Naw, I write half my stuff while I myself am drunk too, so... FAIR GAME!)

Hmmm....I see why this guy has a small label. He's illiterate. Maybe he hopes to sell his small label to a big label. In any case, if this is an example of his persuasive skills, he can't be selling much.

umm, has this site ever argued for legalizing "piracy"? Did I miss something?

The guy has a point....somewhere.....I tried to find it..........couldn't really see one.

I do think he's worried about getting hurt in the fallout created by the practices of the big labels.

That alone tells me the boycott might be at least a little bit effective. If they weren't worried about it, they would just ignore it.

He is right on one thing, the corperate whores in washington do right all the laws.

What did he say the name of his record label is?

I think his record label must be "Hot Market"
"Yes the big labels have a bigger bank account but thats because they know how hot market..........."

As far as PIRACY, we all know piracy is defined by federal law as robbery and/or murder on the high seas.

If he MEANT to say "copyright infringement"...then I think this post answers this topic from at least my humble point of view.
http://news.dmusic.com/article/17917
"As an admin (one of many), a writer for the site, and as
a member of the site, I continue to see people who seem to
think the stand of Boycott-RIAA and/or DMusic, is that we
condone sharing of copyrighted RIAA files. I am speaking now,
officially, ONLY for myself, and I certainly invite not
only Shmoo, but George, Leflaw, and Tom to chime in,
but here is my position for the record.

I DO NOT condone nor do I encourage, the sharing of
RIAA associated, copyrighted song files, nor for that matter,
do I as Admin of Boycott-MPAA.com, condone nor encourage the
sharing of MPAA associated movie files."

Wow, this juy must have been drunk... or high on **AA dogma I don't know but he must have been on something...


"first of all your whole idea and concept is a complete joke.."

If he even read our concept instead of just reading the title and judging based on that.//

"do you think you'll actually change the laws to make piracy legal? "

Our goal is not to make piracy legal.

"the RIAA didn't create piracy laws the united states government did............"

This is debatable - some (including myself) believe that it is beyond reasonable to say the **AAs boguht these laws with ther money/power.

"I own a record label and its a small label.........I have nothing against big record labels....."

Why though? Do you know not of the troubles and unbalance they bring to us, and to the laws that were created to help us all?

"What your saying about how big labels own the market and people shouldn't buy there albums they should buy albums from smaller labels instead to stop feeding the monsters..............

that tells me you don't know shit about how marketing works........"

Does it really? Or are you too confident in the way the parket works now and afraid that it will in fact change? It is true that they own the market... saying that you should support the independent artists instead of the major lables though has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with knowing about the market works - it is a personal believe and/or action, and the point you made about it a horrible red herring to the reall issue.

"Sony and other big labels don't restrict those small labels from putting there cd's at big distributors like Best buy walmart or sam goody........"

Well, this may be partially true, but it is not as clear cut as you put it - the **AAs have large influences over these chain stores as well.

"Why don't you take a course in marketing and businss before you decided to start bashing the laws of america......."

Why don't you start actually reading a site before bashing it and it's people?

"that money thats earned from cd sales don't just go to the musician......"

Hardly any goes to the msicians, and this is one of the things we are protesting about.

"...People down the chain need to eat just like everybody else..."

Tired out argument, people need to eat, but people don't deserve to eat through corruption. If they want to ear, they have to do the honest work Americans do every day to earn less than the corporates who earn much more and do less.

"Why don't you do us all a favor and shut up while you are still behind.........."

Why don't you stop speaking for everybody but yourself while you can?


".Just gonna make a further ass of out of yourselfs......."

Like you just did? You really think your lack fo coherence, bad grammer, debatable arguments, and blind accusing and flaming made US look like asses? *laugh* *laugh*

"the RIAA didn't create piracy laws the united states government did............"

No, but the RIAA abuses copyright laws and bought Orrin Hatch to serve the best interest of the RIAA instead of the best interest of the people (that means Hatch broke his oath).

"Allowing piracy will do nothing but hurt the music industry"

Actually, P2P did nothing but help the record industry.

God damn idiot.

I agree Sherm..and US Piracy Laws have nothing to do with copyright infringement.

He can reference
http://www.boycott-riaa.com/article/9140
"Piracy is defined under Title 18, Chapter 81, Section 1652, "
and
http://www.geocities.com/codewarrior_wins/
"18 USC Sec. 1652 01/26/98
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 81 - PIRACY AND PRIVATEERING
Sec. 1652. Citizens as pirates
Whoever, being a citizen of the United States, commits any murder or robbery, or any act of hostility against the United States, or against any citizen thereof, on the high seas, under color of any commission from any foreign prince, or state, or on pretense of authority from any person, is a pirate, and shall be imprisoned for life."

lol that guy is an idiot. Like we want piracy to be legal! Sounds like someone has little uhhh label syndrome Seriously what a joke LOL - I only wish he'd get on here and post like a real man.

"What your saying about how big labels own the market and people shouldn't buy there albums they should buy albums from smaller labels instead to stop feeding the monsters..............

that tells me you don't know shit about how marketing works........"

Oh? I wonder if this small label person has ever gotten ANY of his music played on radio??? Unless he has a few million dollars at his disposal, it's likely he hasn't. Why?? Because the 'big labels' do own the market. They pay for their OWN music to be played on the radio. No one else gets played. Sounds like they own the market to me.

How is music sold? Typically, it is sold because people have become familiar with it. Today, there are many MORE ways people become familiar with music. Before the internet, radio and concerts were just about it (except for hearing that great CD in an independent music store). Today, new marketing opportunities are everywhere. One of the biggest is Peer-to-peer file sharing. What a better way of spreading your music worldwide!! Yet, the 'big labels' have screamed 'piracy' and sued 12-year-old girls, dead grandmas, and disabled moms over it. Why??? Why???

To keep the likes of your small label from becoming successful.

They also make marketing deals with Best Buy like companies that your little label could never afford to cut. And you want to tell us about marketing??? I doubt you are truly an owner of a small record label. If you were, you wouldn't make such idiot remarks.

Well, guess MP3user answered all my questions for me.

He's a small lable for a reason.

How can you take this "dee-dee-dee" (think Carlos Mencia) seriously? His rampant disregard for spelling & basic English grammar label him an ignorant, thus how can anyone take is POV as anything but incoherant rants from a likely RIAA shill.

Do you suppose that if I get drunk/stoned and write a crazy rant like this one they will post it as an article on the main page too??

Sober up dude. Then we'll listen. Until then, to use your own words : "Why don't you do us all a favor and shut up while you are still behind...........Just gonna make a further ass of out of yourself"

Everyone is entitled to a drunken rant now and then on an open board but sheesh, not on the first date!

psst, JC, try incoherent and ignoramus. k?
just sayin.

"Allowing piracy will do nothing but hurt the music industry"

Just look at how pirated copies of Windows put Bill Gates in the poor house.

"Message: Hi

Yea i got a few comments on your organization here.......

first of all your whole idea and concept is a complete joke..
do you think you'll actually change the laws to make piracy legal? thats rediculous.....the RIAA didn't create piracy laws the united states government did............"

Answer: Hi pig!

""Your"" ""small"" ""label"" is probably a sub of one of the four majors so since you are RIAA tell your wormy friends that if I was them I will start running right now because the rope is breaking and now that you missed, it is our turn to fire. We will see soon if any one of you parasites is left to laught or if you still feel like laughting! Death to the music pests!

By the way I am not trying to change the DMCA. I just ignore it. The DMCA is not a law The constitution is.

Stop trying to enforce the DMCA. Not only you are going nowhere but you are actually comitting a crime and you must know that there are consequences for this. Tell this to your friends at the RIAA!

We are gaining! You are losing, and the Ala Sadam Hussein propaganda is not going to help you. You can corrupt the judges, the congressman, the members of governements worldwide, at the end of the day you will have to face us. We don't need you! Parasites!

Yes we will rebuild the music industry. But sorry you will not be part of it!

I tend to agree with the perception of those here who think this person is not representing himself honestly.
Wouidn't be at all surprised to find out he actually is some sort of RIAA apologist (though obviously not a very effective one).
We've told him how the cow cuts the cabbage.
The ball's in his court now. If he declines to respond, we can very well just forget him and move on....and, for our part, no worse for the wear!