independentm...
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 3:15 PM
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independentm...
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 3:15 PM
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independentm...
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 3:33 PM
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independentm...
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 3:36 PM
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independentm...
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 3:37 PM
There's a neat pic of anti-industry protesters at the eMTv link above.
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independentm...
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 4:26 PM
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nitedreamerxp
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 4:37 PM
The RIAA has said theres a right way and a wrong way to conduct business well, well maybe they should look in the mirror. Take it from them folks the way they do business is the wrong way what a dip those RIAA spokesmans are.
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 4:42 PM
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 4:44 PM
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 4:47 PM
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 4:59 PM
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 5:51 PM
2 more mothers are fighting the RIAA
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/09/18/1734258.shtml?tid=123&tid=99
An anonymous reader writes "p2pnet is reporting that two more single mothers are refusing to be victimized by the RIAA. Patricia Santagelo was one of the first to stand up and fight the lawsuits, which some say resemble protection racket schemes. Now Dawnell Leadbetter of Seattle and Tanya Andersen of Oregon have decided to follow suit and stand up against the recording industry behemoth. From the article: 'Don't let your fear of these massive companies allow you to deny your belief in your own innocence. Paying these settlements is an admission of guilt. If you're not guilty of violating the law, don't pay.'"
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independentm...
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 6:17 PM
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independentm...
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 10:19 PM
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independentm...
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 10:42 PM
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nitedreamerxp
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 11:33 PM
I could go for Indie ringtones minus the DRM that'll be cool having ringtones nobody in the mainstream has. 
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independentm...
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Date: September 19, 2005 @ 11:58 PM
Turns out that the Digital Rights Agency is a middle-man between indie labels and the pay services. They try to get the indie artists' music on those 'indie' labels onto the pay services, but they take a cut from the royalties for their services.
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captdunsel
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 12:02 AM
hey schmoo. don't know if anyone's told you lately but you're ok man. you do a great job. thanks.
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independentm...
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 12:47 AM
Thanks captdunsel, I love you too!
*smootch*

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independentm...
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 2:14 AM
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independentm...
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 2:17 AM
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kyodylee
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 2:28 AM
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independentm...
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 3:20 AM
Not sure what's up with all that kyodylee, but thanks for the head's up.
Also, a shout-out and nod to DeadMan2003 (and everyone else) who continue to post links that are relevent.
However folks, (right or wrong) I am trying to avoid the "front page" with any stories/items that are p2p.net 'originals'. If Jon Newton and crew have a scoop that you think our readers need to see, go ahead and put a link here In The News, but don't C&P the article itself. (We can all just hop over there if it needs to be seen.)
No, don't ask me what the "bad-blood" is all about (if there IS any) because I honestly don't know. (All I know is that I have been told by quite a few trusted friends that p2p.net doesn't like it when I go to the "front-page" with one of their original articles.)
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 9:32 AM
Kinda silly considering that they are for copyright reform like this site is. A little hippocritical don't you think?
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 9:34 AM
"The movie studios figure they lose as much as $3.5 billion a year in revenues due to the illegal copying of movies on videotape and DVD, and they are deeply concerned about possible further losses due to digital distribution via the Internet."
I'd love to know where they get their figures from.
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grumpygeezer
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 10:28 AM
"The movie studios figure they lose as much as $3.5 billion a year. . ."
"I'd love to know where they get their figures from."
There's this principle that from creative minds comes creative ideas.
I guess we should applaud their creativity?
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ShadowMom
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 11:15 AM
I don't know how creative they are, but they certainly do have creative bookkeeping, don't they?
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gdZiemann
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 11:35 AM
"I'd love to know where they get their figures from."
They just take the difference between what they expected to make and how much they actually made, then add in all the money they wasted trying to stop it.
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compmore
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 12:35 PM
No, don't ask me what the "bad-blood" is all about (if there IS any) because I honestly don't know. (All I know is that I have been told by quite a few trusted friends that p2p.net doesn't like it when I go to the "front-page" with one of their original articles.)
breaking my rule here but bad blood works both ways. The people here know why. over on their website whenever boycottriaa is mentioned it's NEVER in a negitive way.
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INeedAlover
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 1:41 PM
"I'd love to know where they get their figures from."
They are made up, under the assumption that a bootleg sale or download = lost sale.
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 8:07 PM
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 8:07 PM
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grumpygeezer
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 10:26 PM
"I don't know how creative they are, but they certainly do have creative bookkeeping, don't they?"
You're correct, of course, and that's what I meant with my subtle sarcasm about them being creative — I was referring to figures!
They (the MPAA) harbor creative if not delusional ideas about what shoulda or coulda been.
It's as George and INeedALover said; the result gets padded unrealistically.
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autodidact
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 11:03 PM
Apple's Jobs Warns on Music Pricing
"PARIS (Reuters) - Apple boss Steve Jobs, the man behind the popular iPod digital music player, called the music industry greedy for considering a hike in the price of digital downloads, warning such a move would drive users back to piracy...
"'If the price goes up, they (consumers) will go back to piracy and everybody loses,' he said."
How does *everybody* lose if iPodders return to free downloads? That makes no sense.
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JazonBladen
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Date: September 20, 2005 @ 11:34 PM
Film studios unite to beat piracy
"Six major Hollywood studios have formed a joint venture to protect their movies from the threat of electronic theft.
Motion Picture Laboratories will research and create new technologies to stop the unauthorised distribution of films, particularly via the internet.
The company, also named Movielabs, will have offices in Los Angeles and a $30m (£16.6m) budget in its first two years.
The studios pooling their resources are Walt Disney, Sony, Paramount, Warner Bros, Universal and 20th Century Fox."
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gfmlcka
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Date: September 21, 2005 @ 12:57 AM
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Capt-n-Jack
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Date: September 21, 2005 @ 3:17 AM
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independentm...
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Date: September 21, 2005 @ 7:32 AM
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 21, 2005 @ 12:06 PM
I asked this in another news item comment.
How do you playback an iTunes album like a DJ mix compilation or Pink FLoyd of other 'live' type recording whereby each track mixes into the next without pauses?
AFAIK Gapless/Seamless playback is not available on the iPod (Any flavour). So when they sell a Pink Floyd album on iTunes for instance. Do they sell it as one big AAC file where you cannot skip between tracks? Or do they sell them as seperate tracks and you have to endure track breaks?
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RaidHHI
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Date: September 21, 2005 @ 3:28 PM
You endure track breaks, unless the software your using supports fading. Then it can fade out the previous track and fade in the next track; it seems like they are seamless this way.
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awehr
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Date: September 21, 2005 @ 4:59 PM
Deadman:
you can import songs from cd's into itunes and merge the tracks. If you use advanced tools you can create bookmarks/chapters within ripped tracks. (my friend did this with harry potter audiobooks)
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 21, 2005 @ 5:07 PM
My question was with regards to 'purchased' iTunes tracks. I know all about what you can do if you own the original CD. I am referring to the possibility that when you purchase an album on iTunes that requires 'totally' seamless transitions from one track to the next (Like DJ mix compilations). Do you end up having to suffer pauses/glitches between tracks? Crossfading is not an option in DJ mixes whereby the tracks need to have a seamless transition in 4/4 timing.
Not only would you be purchasing lossy compressed tracks with DRM at inflated prices. You would also have to suffer 'gaps' or crappy crossfades on your iPod player or have to recompress again to 1 big file and suffer no track skipping and less quality.
I want to know how iTunes handles this and how they would handles complaints about such a failing.
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 21, 2005 @ 5:08 PM
That's iTunes the store not the software just to make that double clear.
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 21, 2005 @ 5:08 PM
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 21, 2005 @ 5:11 PM
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 21, 2005 @ 5:12 PM
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 21, 2005 @ 5:13 PM
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awehr
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Date: September 21, 2005 @ 5:18 PM
DeadMan: I'm reserving my judgment regarding that slyck article.
Though the fact that their servers were a centralized failure point worries me. Are other p2p developers lying when they say their services are decentralized like winmx was?
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peatrap
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Date: September 22, 2005 @ 9:24 AM
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independentm...
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Date: September 22, 2005 @ 3:02 PM
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independentm...
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Date: September 22, 2005 @ 3:05 PM
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nitedreamerxp
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Date: September 22, 2005 @ 4:18 PM
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nitedreamerxp
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Date: September 22, 2005 @ 4:24 PM
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otech
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Date: September 23, 2005 @ 9:16 PM
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ShadowMom
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Date: September 23, 2005 @ 10:12 PM
I haven't even been here long enough to remember that page....thanks, otech!
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stilltrying
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Date: September 23, 2005 @ 11:37 PM
Hello Steve Thanks for the link to and promo of the site BoycottRiaa in your lastest edition of Disc and Dat!!!!!!
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 24, 2005 @ 4:27 PM
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 24, 2005 @ 4:29 PM
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peatrap
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Date: September 24, 2005 @ 4:39 PM
RIAA reports that their effects to stop file swopping in the New Orleans area has hit a all time high, news at six.
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ShadowMom
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Date: September 24, 2005 @ 8:04 PM
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captdunsel
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Date: September 24, 2005 @ 8:36 PM
good news bit deadman, the only problem is that if they keep getting rid of the morons they may at sometime find somebody with a clue.
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peatrap
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Date: September 24, 2005 @ 9:41 PM
Is recording enternet radio legal or not?
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IFeelFree
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Date: September 24, 2005 @ 11:49 PM
ShadowMom:
My favorite quote is from the discussion following "when playing a CD becomes a 'privelege,' not a right":
"We will be telling our children or grandchildren tales of how we used to be able to buy movies and watch them as many times as we wanted.
How people actually collected libraries of music and movies that they listened to and veiwed over and over again for free.
They wont believe us."
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gdZiemann
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Date: September 25, 2005 @ 1:45 AM
"RIAA reports that their effects to stop file swopping in the New Orleans area has hit a all time high, news at six."
In a follow-up story, the RIAA also reports that they have not sold, er, shipped any CDs to New Orleans for weeks, a clear indication that the pirates now control 100% of the market in that city.
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Re: When playing a CD becomes a "privilege"
The RIAA has been claiming for years that this already is the case.
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IFeelFree
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Date: September 25, 2005 @ 2:34 AM
Another good quote:
"If you give the record companies a DRM scheme that goes from 1 (open) to 10 (unusably locked down), they will start at 14 and lobby Congress to mandate that it can be turned up higher by default. "
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independentm...
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Date: September 25, 2005 @ 6:44 AM
A rant found in the INBOX:
They're FCKD! Title 17... (designed by the great founding fathers of the DMCA..They've been waiting for this)....Call for info..310-860-7607..The RIAA has been changing the medium of digital sound recordings, for years; raking the stupid ass consumer all the way with new packaging and slick formats but my but Ol' boy Oran Hatch wasn't having it..I've been following this since 1998.. Check this BS out...As defined- a digital sound recording is a one time event. Period. When the fcking track is dropped in the studio and mastered at the lab, the result use to be analog but now it's called a "Digital Sound Recording" ....The consumer doesn't pay the lic. for the artwork, packaging, display, ONLY the "Digital sound recording" .......Keep that point in mind.
Let's take an example of a track entitled "RIAA Rape" if "RIAA Rape" was recorded onto the medium of (LP) in 1972 and I were to buy the recorded (LP) of "RIAA Rape" true, because the recorded event was analog in it's original form, the consumer should have to pay for the re-release of the music into the Digial format of CD but that's where it's designed to stop...Put simply....After you own a copy of a "Digital Sound Recording" you're now entitled to a "Copy" in it's original digital for for life.from one medium to another..So now..Since the RIAA decided to change the format to the "downloading" if you own a "Digital sound recording" on the medium of compact disk and you would like a copy in a different digital format..The RIAA now has to give it to you for FREE which inevitably means a huge "Send in the denegrated MEDIUM of CD to move your DATA to a new medium" because the law was written for the consumer NEVER to move the DATA..only the RIAA can...basically, my Teena Marie CD that was ruined and skips..can be sent in to the RIAA for a 1) new COPY of the denegraded MEDIUM to move my Lic. data..or Move the DATA to a new medium such as Mp3 or online Data base..I hope you take the time to understand what this means...Send ALL of your CD's you own to the RIAA and demand the "Digital Sound Recording" to be copied..else becoming a "serial Copyright offender" and recieve a new Lic. on the new format...The law was designed FOR the consumer...Not to pay every time the RIAA and the device makers want to change formats...the o's and 1's never change... SEND IT BACK TO THEM AND DEMAND A NOTHER COPY WHEN IT SKIPS...CD'S ARE DEAD but you still own the LIC. to the digital sound recording fools!!!!!!!!...SEND IT BACK!!!!!
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captdunsel
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Date: September 25, 2005 @ 11:20 AM
"if there is a maxell cassette in this car and it doesn't work, we'll replace it. free.
problem was you had to prove that you bought it, that it wasn't damaged through mistreatment and they would only replace the media not the content on it.
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Accipiter777
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Date: September 25, 2005 @ 7:22 PM
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independentm...
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Date: September 26, 2005 @ 2:28 AM
Slashdot says:
An anonymous reader writes "Slyck is reporting that LimeWire is working on new code that will block non-licensed material. The new code checks to see if shared material is licensed, if it is not, the LimeWire client will politely inform the user, 'LimeWire can't determine if one or more files have been published under a suitable license. These files will not be shared.'" From the article: "Approximately 3 to 5 days ago, LimeWire developers began working on two new branches, cc_reverify_interval-branch and cc-publish-branch. The code in the first branch works to verify that every file shared has a license. If this is not the case, the file will not be shared. The second branch is for publishing one's own work without a license. According to the release notes, individuals can attach a Collective Commons license if the work is either their own or have permission to distribute the work ... According to a LimeWire beta tester who informed Slyck of this news, this feature is already complete. Developers are simply waiting for the signal to integrate these branches with the main branch, providing Mark Gorton, CEO of LimeWire, decides to go through with this."
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independentm...
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Date: September 26, 2005 @ 2:38 AM
Folks, this is something from the INBOX and I can't vouch for it. (And I don't know if I would trust it or not.) I'm just passing along the message.
====
Any help I can give I will.
Let me know.
Winmx is back online.
Vladd44.com
goto forum, down Patch.
Restart winmx
Once online,Winmx chatroom is ->
Vladd44_2F6971461E61
If this website has somewhere to post this info that would be cool.
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independentm...
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Date: September 26, 2005 @ 2:57 AM
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 26, 2005 @ 5:03 AM
WinMX is a bit old hat and was dying out anyhow. There are still plenty of free alternatives out there (Ares, Gnucleus, Shareza, eMule etc)
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 26, 2005 @ 10:00 AM
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 26, 2005 @ 10:13 AM
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 26, 2005 @ 10:17 AM
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DeadMan2003
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Date: September 26, 2005 @ 10:19 AM
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INeedAlover
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Date: September 26, 2005 @ 5:05 PM
What typical Music executive arrogance. ""Now, we need to understand that listening to music on your computer is an extra privilege. "
BULLSHIT. I got a better idea. How about we stop BUYING your DRM crap and put you out of a job, Tommi Kyrrä??? It's quite apparent you don't DESERVE the position you have.
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Dreddsnik
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Date: September 26, 2005 @ 6:18 PM
"Any help I can give I will.
Let me know.
Winmx is back online.
Vladd44.com
goto forum, down Patch.
Restart winmx
Once online,Winmx chatroom is ->
Vladd44_2F6971461E61
"
I tested the first version of this "patch" right when it came out. It worked, but intermittently, for me, anyway. The one referenced in this particular post is updated and seems to work more reliably for me.
This is not really a "patch" per se as it is a modified "hosts" file.
I am going to TRY to explain how I think this works with my limited understanding ......
The cache servers are no longer "DNS'd". That means .. to me anyway .. that they cannot be accessed by typing an URL " www.blahblah.com ".
They can be accessed, however, by typing IP addies. Since WinMX seems to be coded to use URLs, without those URLS being accessible through a DNS, WinMX can't connect. This HOSTS replacement seems to direct those lost DNS entries to their IP counterparts.
It works.
I know at LEAST one person here who can explain this better than I. Hopefully they will chime in and correct me if I am wrong, or explain it a little better.
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Dreddsnik
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Date: September 26, 2005 @ 6:32 PM
"WinMX is a bit old hat and was dying out anyhow. There are still plenty of free alternatives out there (Ares, Gnucleus, Shareza, eMule etc) "
Probably true, but, it was easy enough for my mom to use ( a big litmus test for useability in my eyes ). Been playing about with Shareza as a possible alternative. It needs to pass that little test though  . With mom here in the states and grandchildren in Hawaii, it was a nice way to get those large video files of the grandkids from there to here.
Legal uses don't count for much anymore though.
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jeffmorse752
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Date: September 26, 2005 @ 8:24 PM
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Dreddsnik
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Date: September 26, 2005 @ 9:24 PM
One down, one precedent set ??
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ShadowMom
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Date: September 26, 2005 @ 9:59 PM
No, this is the same story that's been reported for a couple of days. The case against the mother was dismissed, not the case against the child.
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gfmlcka
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Date: September 27, 2005 @ 12:30 AM
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