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NEVER A BETTER TIME TO BOYCOTT!
Posted on Tuesday, June 28 @ 07:15:49 EDT by CodeWarrior

If you are angered by the decision the Grokster case, it is all the more important that you boycott. We cannot let the bullying by the Copyright Cartel stand.

What we must seriously consider at this point, is use of our place as a large consumer base, and if the RIAA associated labels want to attack us, then let them be met by the most widespread boycott possible. If Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer wishes to attack consumers, then we should consider our option of boycotting not only films associted with MGM, but every other financial enterprise associated with MGM. What this means is NOT just boycotting their entertainment division, but every company associated with them.

To me, the name MGM should become a curse in the mouths of consumers,

MGM seems to have nothing but disdain for us as consumers, and thus, we should show them how we feel about them, and their associated toadies in return!

I know some will say that we cannot boycott all the associated companies of all members of the MPAA, but, we can boycott targets. For the naysayers, I would ask, what effective measures would you suggest to address this issue?

~Code

I just want to say here and now that Boycott-RIAA and Boycott-MPAA have the same ultimate goal/agenda/ideals in mind and at heart.

(And, I promise to NEVER go to the movie theatre again when it is an MPAA film on the screen!)

AMEN~! Full respect / Full Support / Solidarity /

You're doing a great job Shmoo!

When it,s time to vote, remember who was in office and how they have played their part, and remove the bad actors. As far as the boycott I have to beat my on drum, I have not been to the movies scense Path Adams (robin williams) came out, the reason, I have a family of four, it cost over fourty dallors for tickets ,popcorn and a drinks. My view of the entertainment industry changed that day, I concluded MPAA and the RIAA were in the rape the public mode and I refuse to be a victom.T

The supreme court decisions also shows that U.S.A. is no longer a land for the free, this is now the land of big business and crushing the many or the one is more important then adapting to the present. Purchasing their form of goverment from the sellouts in washington is now the norm, this country is in deep shit when it comes to me and you having any wrights any more and when you back a person into a corner you give them no other choice but to fight back. The entertainment industry is just a minor problem in this country, the goverment has forgot who they are to serve, now the powers to be wish to rule.

As StreamCast ceo Michael Weiss stated ...

"Seriously, I believe the real winners today can be the independent content creators-indie labels or individual artists - they'll be able to stay ahead of the majors in exploiting p2p technology and the networks to gain a fan base and to sell, promote and distribute their works efficiently."

A lot of people dont relize that Kmart was boycotted, even Wall Street.
Boycotts DO work.
Altho' I doubt that the boycott was the only reason for Kmart's demise, perhaps sales were down for many other reasons, including the reasons for the Kmart boycott.
If/when the general public has had enough of a problem, we tend to advoid that problem weather we are consciancly boycotting it or not. The RIAA backed music industry IS a problem.
I don't fileshare copyrighted materails, but I support p2p.
PS: Dmusic needs spel chek

This is off subject but PCworld has a free spell check that works very nice on the internet.(ieSpell v 2.1.1) ran it for two months now, no problems.

"This is off subject but PCworld has a free spell check that works very nice on the internet.(ieSpell v 2.1.1) ran it for two months now, no problems."


"When it,s time to vote, remember who was in office and how they have played their part, and remove the bad actors. As far as the boycott I have to beat my on drum, I have not been to the movies scense Path Adams (robin williams) came out, the reason, I have a family of four, it cost over fourty dallors for tickets ,popcorn and a drinks. My view of the entertainment industry changed that day, I concluded MPAA and the RIAA were in the rape the public mode and I refuse to be a victom.T"

you're f***ing kidding me right?

No

boycotting is great. but two other things are needed to make it affective.

1) give the public a viable alternitive

2) find a way to market and distribute that alternitive to the masses where IT WILL BE NOTICED.

number one is already avaliable. number 2 is where the effort should be and many are trying.

An alternative to the RIAA backed music industry is easy enough, it'll take awhile but it'll happen; a Dmusic song will get downloaded more then a Britney mp3.
An alternative to the movie industry's monopoly is a bit harder, but the seeds are planted at sites such as Joe's Cartoon

If you are angered by the decision in the Grokster case, then you really do not have a firm grasp on what has happened.

Right on. Who needs companies that make money off of copyright infringement anyway.

boycotting is great. but two other things are needed to make it affective
There is nothing more effective then not buying! Rember the school yard bully, the first time he got his ass kicked, he changed ever thing about his self to get along. Pain is a great teacher! Slumping sales for a business is painful and most of the time the cure to this pain is to restructure, lower prices and realign with the customer needs. This is the basic format used by all businesses that are in trouble. Business must strive for a win win situation to survive, if not they will drown in their own stupidity. No sales will force the change we are looking for.

Just passed along the imfo I new to InsaneWayne, where can the spell check on D-music be found, there,s two of use that do not know about it.

"I know some will say that we cannot boycott all ..., but, we can boycott targets. For the naysayers, I would ask, what effective measures would you suggest to address this issue?"

Well that's easy Code!

The problem is not with boycotting, but with the choice of targets. You have chosen appropriate targets, but not necessarily effective ones.

The ruling points out that you can't always go after the direct infringers. Sometimes, to be effective you have to go after the indirect infringers.

There is really only one entity to which both the RIAA and the MPAA play step-and-fetch-it. Only one organization that, if push comes to shove, will stand up and make the other sit and shut up.

That is the National Association of Broadcasters. The NAB is the most important marketing arm the RIAA has. Without radio play, there are no CD sales. Ask any musician. Televison rights make up almost half of the take of any movie. Television advertisment is mandatory or there are no movie goers. Ask any indy.

Fortunately for you, the NAB are some of the most monitored entities in the world. As such, they are the ones most immediatly succeptible to a boycott. Keep in mind that every television, radio and cable station receives both overnight ratings and sweeps ratings. These number are directly responsible for how much money they can bill their advertisers. If their ratings go down in ONE sweeps WEEK, their revenues are down for an entire quarter. Ratings are a thing the NAB members check every single day.

Now if you were to plan a "Turn OFF Bad Radio. Turn ON Great Podcasts" and "Turn OFF Bad TV. Turn on Great Indy Movies" during an up and coming sweeps week, you could be remarkably effective FAST!

Indy podcast music and movies would of course be delivered via P2P systems. (All infringement free.) I suspect there would be plenty of freely available content to program ONE WEEK of radio and TV.

K-mart went out of business because they had terrible customer service. It was far more important to save $$$ by laying off employees than making sure your customers got serviced timely and properly, encouraging their return.

captainMorgan, I like the way you think, indirect pressure, let,s set some dates like over labor day weekend.

"There is nothing more effective then not buying!"

yes and no. this is true only if the general public boycotts and it hasn't yet. People love music and unless you give them an alternitive (IE sugarless products for those who love chocolate and the like, non alcholic beer etc....) they'll keep right on buying.

"K-mart went out of business because they had terrible customer service."

Good, that means Wal-Mart won't be far behind. there's always multiple reasons, seldom ever just one.

Someone should find out when the sweeps weeks are first.

There is nothing more effective then not buying!"

yes and no. this is true only if the general public boycotts and it hasn't yet.

You do not have to drag a business down to zero, just drag them below the profit line, this may only require a reduction in sales around 20 o/o in most cases, look at the auto industry (chev/ford) they overpriced their vehicles so they chopped off the proffet end of their sales by having no sales, their still moving units but still going in the hole, thats why there rated as junk bonds, there no clear course set yet to correct their problem.

"Right on. Who needs companies that make money off of copyright infringement anyway."

I had far rather do that than to give my money to those making money off copyright sequestration, off suing consumers, and ripping off the public for decades (read here RIAA).
~CW

Further clarification on the above statement. I do not condone "copyright infringement"..but, let's face it..people copy letters, magazine articles, photocopy photos, and on, most without authorization of the "copyright owner"...hence, a culture of copyright infringement.

Every webpage I have produced (tyope "codewarriorz" in Google and see how many sites you find) are copyrighted , through the point of creation model, and everytime people load my pages, they load all the copyrighted text, pictures, etc..and without my express authorization....

In fact, I am the person who coined the phrase, "Every time a webpage is loaded, copyritht infringement occurs" because there is NO such thing as "impled permission to make unauthorized copies". In fact, even if a site had a notice saying you can copy the contents, you still had to load all copyrighted material BEFORE you saw the authorization.

So, this high and mighty Copyright Cartel BULLSHIT, is JUST THAT...bullshit!

We are a culture used to xeroxing, scanning, making rubbings of gravestones, videotaping, audiotaping, etc...and in fact, in every way you can think of, constantly making unauthorized copies of work SOMEONE created, and at the point of creation, COPYRIGHTED. So, I don't want anyone giving me bullshit about how sacred copyright is, because all these bastards at the RIAA and MPAA are probably in their law offices, copying things right and left without the prior express permission of the copyright owner.

As you can tell, a sore spot has been hit on this one.

I've had my works copyright infringed by one of the largest news agencies in the world, and I didn't do an F'ing thing about it...I'm not a whining crybaby like these F'ing A-holes.

And, another thing...there is nothing SACRED about digital for God's Sake. Analog media and the copyright rights of book authors, are just as important as some a-hole in a three piece suit claiming digital rights on some movie or song!

End of Rant.

Sorry for typos

So many typos I have no time to fix them all.."impled" should be implied..

Anyone, I appreciate companies with the chutzpah to offer peer to peer services like Kazaa, Grokster, et al (the only one I ever used that worked worth a damn to me was Kazaa...that Earthstation Five was a joke)...

Free sharing of digital materials DOES NOT NECESSARILY EQUAL copyright infringement...but lawyers copying materials without prior authorization might well be...

"If you are angered by the decision in the Grokster case, then you really do not have a firm grasp on what has happened."

Paint me as not having an F'ing clue then...despite reading the f'ing decision and posting it for others to d/load!

I call upon all those that support freedom to take down the websites of those that oppose it. Hack them to death them maybe they will listen to the people that are buying thier products and making them rich.

"It's over. Wormer dropped the big one."
--Animal House

"K-mart went out of business because they had terrible customer service."
My ma worked at the Ludington Kmart for 25 years until it was closed, we both STILL own some stock in the company for laughs. I watched as Kmart failed for a few reasons, but at no time did Kmart mention the boycott against them. I find myself wondering how much the boycott had to do with the failure. "Terrible customer service" may have caused Ineedalover to shop elsewheres, meaning Lover boycotted Kmart UNconsceincely.
My point being that the RIAA doesnt even mention the boycott...
(Im still hoping Hot Topic will buy up what's left of Kmart and replace Martha Stewart with Marilyn Manson)
"If you are angered by the decision in the Grokster case, then you really do not have a firm grasp on what has happened."
I feel the decision was a small setback in the case. However I thought it was a grade-school decision to make, Im not loading my rifle pissed off, but really irked. What pissed me off were the posts at ZDnet.com until I relized that RIAA rats were posting their misinformation.
My fingers are bleeding from playing guitar today... Im not posting too much tonight

http://www.drudgereport.com check this out sweet Justice, contractor looking at taking supreme court judge home for a motel. God Lord thats to bad

OK reality check. We are hearing that box office is down in the first part of the year. So Hollywood is no doubt whining. And blaming it on downloading, for they would never blame themselves.

But I wonder about the overall profits of the studios. I'll bet DVD sales are up. Maybe it balances out.

I don't know exactly where to get this info because I don't monitor the financial stats on movie studios or related businesses.

I am very suspicious of this drop in box office -- which has been reported everywhere. Obviously America is changing its behavior to some degree -- and my guess is that more people are staying home watching DVDs. Which is not good from a boycott standpoint, unless they are DVDs borrowed from the library.

I mean, I heard that Warners has sold $150 million worth of DVDs of the Babylon 5 TV series. That is mostly gravy, because the show was already produced and in the vaults. Repeat this scenario with a jillion other TV series that are now out on DVD and presumably selling like hotcakes. How can they not be making money hand over fist?

drudge report has a story about a survey, 1050 adults interviewed. Number one complaint cost and number two poor quality srill others just wait for it to come out on DVD.

peatrap, that story about the Supreme Court justice's house is not too bad--it's too damn good!! It's delicious!! I linked to it earlier, and as far as I can tell it's legit. The guy actually ran for the governor of California. I hope he pushes it--I'd give a donation to the site if he gets the approval of the board! Sometimes payback is a bitch, ain't it?

"don't know exactly where to get this info because I don't monitor the financial stats on movie studios or related businesses. "

I'm not sure they do either.

The Next sweeps period is Oct 31- Dec 4 roughly. They always start on a Thursday and end on a Wednesday.

And remember that people who work in your local TV stations are people in your community

THE RIAA is full of POWER HUNGRY OUT OF LINE BUREACRATS WHO WANT TO SUCK THE MONEY AND RIGHTS OUT OF THE CCOMMON MAN. IF THEY WANT TO GO INVESTIGATE AND SUE SOMEONE, IT CAN BE THEMSELVES.

Their actions are illegal. Besides, what U.S branch of law enforcement are they Answer is NOT ONE AT ALL

Welcome, DocFreedom.. stick to dmusic and discover the wisdom on this site.. it is considerable. As for the supreme court... surprise, surprise!! I look at it as an opportunity for independent artists to grow, anyway.. since Riaa/mpaa is crap that induces lawsuits, more people seeking good stuff will expand the search.

"That is the National Association of Broadcasters. The NAB is the most important marketing arm the RIAA has."

NAB is included by default already. We turned off the radio a long time ago. P2p is more-so what had kept the RIAA tunes in the limelight/promoted these past couple years.

If the MGM v Grokster decision somehow spooks the sheep into not sharing RIAA tunes, then, guess what ...we WIN!

box office sales are down because people are getting sick and tired of paying ten bucks for a ticket. That and the lack of really good movies being produced. It has nothing to do with downloads....imo