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BayTSP chases BT 1st seeds
Posted by Electronicpovertystricken in on January 13, 2005 at 7:54 PM



http://p2pnet.net/story/3540
Thursday 13th January 2005

“Identifying the first individuals who upload illegal content allows companies to track all subsequent users who download and share a particular file,” says the company.

BayTSP boss Mark Ishikawa says FirstSource looks for the first of “a client's” uploads to eDonkey and BitTorrent. When it spots a file name matching the content, it starts a download to confirm that the file is what it appears to be, says the Hollywood hacker.

“Once the content is validated, the system captures the IP (Internet Protocol) address and identifying information of other users downloading and sharing the pirated material. The system also logs which portions of the file that each user shares. This [sic] data is stored in an infringement database as evidence in the event the client decides to pursue litigation against the file sharers.

“Clients can monitor the system via a Web-based interface and have the option of automatically or manually issuing Digital Millennium Copyright Act-compliant take down notices, even while the downloads are still in progress.”

First to admit
The software is already being used by software companies and the MPAA, Slyck's Michael Ingram quotes BayTSP spokesman Jim Graham as saying.

"This is primarily targeted at movies and software."

He says BayTSP, "is the first to admit you can't see the entire eDonkey network or spot every seed the minute it's uploaded. Basically we're saying we can spot the first handful of sharers. Particularly with large files you can spot the first person with 100% and then track everyone who's increasing their percentage."

Ingram asked if FirstSource could identify the origin of every new file.

"It's a relatively new system," Graham answered, going on: "I'm not sure how many titles it's been tested against, so I really can't give you an accurate number ... I think over a period of a few months I could give you an accurate percentage."

Original BitTorrent seeders, "have always known their vulnerability, which was illustrated by a recent study into the BitTorrent system," says Ingram, adding:

"However, never before have they been such a high profile target."


User Comments

Otherindependentm...
Date: January 14, 2005 @ 1:41 AM
Can you say "terrorism"

uh huh, I thought you could.
Advancedawehr
Date: January 14, 2005 @ 3:20 AM
this was front page not 9 hours ago... sheesh.
Advancedgoldenpi
Date: January 14, 2005 @ 4:51 AM
Should be a fairly effective technique - shut down a few releasers of course, but scare off many others. The networks will be adjusted, edventually.
Otherindependentm...
Date: January 14, 2005 @ 5:37 AM
oops, I may have reposted the same or similar article as one of the other admins...

...sheesh. I am still getting my feet wet cause I just now got here with my "magical admin powers"!

Shmoo

:D (Big Grin)
DMembergodless-heathen
Date: January 14, 2005 @ 8:34 AM
First of all, people should stop sharing movies. Nothing that comes out of Hollywood is worth spending hours to download. I mean, "Taxi", hello. If they do plan to share movies, they should do so on private networks through clients like WASTE. The reason I'm saying this is I'm tired of BT trackers being shut down because of movies. I'm tired of the MPAA using this as ammo to lock down all digital content. People should stop shuffling their sh*t around and force the movie studios to realize that the reason they're not making money is because 70% of all movies suck now. I blame the cast of SNL, but unless someone shoots them all what can you do.
Electronicpovertystricken
Date: January 14, 2005 @ 3:42 PM
terrorism: yes I can say it, at least we know our enemys on this front.
Advancedawehr
Date: January 14, 2005 @ 3:45 PM
youre right about one thing.. 99.99% of movies suck and have done so since the turn of the millennium.

If they didnt, theyre based on a book or older series which was far better than what was "allowed" on the proverbial silver screen by our ultraright censor panels.
Intermediatewet1
Date: January 14, 2005 @ 8:26 PM
I may have seen a total of 2 or 3 shows of the tv series Steinfeld (or however it is spelled). All of them by accident while visiting and not by choice. This is a prime example of mindlessness that such series have stuped to. Any time you can walk into a series, in the middle of a show and you haven't missed anything and can pick up in the middle as if you were always there, it tells you something. No plot, only dialogue between the actors to support the show, and the same thing will happen tomorrow that happened today. Nothing of consequence. Had to be very cheap to make that show.

If the like is what I have missed then I haven't missed anything.
Advancedawehr
Date: January 14, 2005 @ 11:10 PM
All the good series got cancelled in 2000 because they figured out they could feed us crap if they collude.

That's the reason why they hate filesharing. It allows us to resurrect old shows from the wasteland of cancellation, and create our own tv networks.

Mod an xbox, install xbox media player, download tv shows.. voiala!
Advancedawehr
Date: January 14, 2005 @ 11:12 PM
I think its time for these companies to branch out into new ventures... ones which dont involve dependence on crappy movies and tv shows.

let us make our own entertainment. While hundreds of millions in special effects are nice.. its not necessary in the quantitites they provide.
People were perfectly happy with short flash clips like all your base! =)
DMemberdogpile
Date: January 15, 2005 @ 5:25 AM
Have uploaders in China and Vanuatu.
DMemberdeskyrider
Date: January 15, 2005 @ 8:27 AM
just more propoganda.

1) they dont have access to every single tracker out there.

2) alot of things are distributed through different means then uploaded to so-called public trackers.

3) in the so-called 'inside movie piracy' article thats all the rage now. bittorrent and edonkey level of distribution is there after 30-40 thousand people already ahve it. so whats the point in going after first seeds if that many people already have it ?

just another scare tactic to try to keep people from distributing their stuff.

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