Jathan Desir, 26, of Iowa City pled guilty to charges related to his role in a "criminal enterprise" that distributed "pirated software" , games, movies and music over the Internet.

When he appeared in a Federal District court in Des Moines , he pled guilty to a three-count felony that charged him with copyright infringement and conspiracy to commit copyright infringement. Desir will face a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison when he is sentenced on March 18, 2005.

The story is found at
http://news.com.com/Feds+convict+warez+pirate/2100-1025_3-5505610.html?tag=cd.top

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This was conducted under the watchful eye of outgoing DOJ honcho, John "Let the Eagle Soar" Ashcroft (for more on Ashcroft, read the account of his effort to make people do a singalong of his idiotic self generated maudlin tune, "Let the Eagle Soar", at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,7369,661458,00.html
"Mr Ashcroft, a devout Christian and a grittily determined singer, went public with one of his works last month, when he surprised an audience at a North Carolina seminary with a rendition of Let the Eagle Soar, a tribute to America's virtues, which continues: "Like she's never soared before, from rocky coast to golden shore, let the mighty eagle soar," and so on for four minutes.

The performance (which can be seen and heard at cnn.com/video/us/2002/02/25/ashcroft.sings.wbtv.med.html) was accompanied only by taped music, but Mr Ashcroft's staff are complaining that printed versions of the song are being distributed at meetings so that they will be able to join in.

When asked why she opposed the workplace singalong, one of the department's lawyers said: "Have you heard the song? It really sucks."
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There is REAL criminality in this world, and FAR more deserving of enforcement than some poor slobs trading cracked copies of Photoshop or crappy old movies like THE HULK (a total waste of anyone's bandwidth if you ask me).

How about really going after all the criminals involved in that ENRON fiasco? Oh yes, Ken Lay has "connections"....
Never mind :).

This preoccupation with digital file trading, at the expense of letting corporate criminals loose and unpunished to rip off people in their sunset years, is, in my mind, tantamount to criminal in and of itself, but, hey, I'm not a legislator.
~CodeWarriorz Thoughts

" How about really going after all the criminals involved in that ENRON fiasco? Oh yes, Ken Lay has "connections"....

Go after the criminals? hahahaha

Like Martha? she got 5 months min security while many of her share holders lost thier life savings, but thats ok she has money, if it was a poor sap like you and I we would be behind bars for 10 to 15 years.
Welcome to the corporate world of corupt power, greed, theft ,mis -handling and cheating of share holders money. A very just system we have here today according to our leaders.
So thats why the music industry keeps getting away with thier little law suits. Who can go aganist them?

"Who can go aganist them?"

We have no choice but to send Segata Sanshiro to save the people! Fear the beating!

Get the real story. Martha's shareholders did not lose their life savings. Martha was railroaded because she's a successful woman.

Code, check your facts.

Ken Lay was indicted on July 7, 2004. And according to money.cnn.com, "To date [at the time of this July 7 article about Lay's endictment] the federal government has launched 30 separate prosecutions related to Enron's implosion, including a criminal case that brought down auditor Arthur Andersen two years ago and criminal probes of about 20 former Enron employees. Of those, 11 have resulted in convictions or guilty pleas."

Corporate crime has hardly been ignored under the Ashcroft Justice Department.

As for Martha Stewart, I feel that was mostly a bum rap. She had already sold over 90% of her ImClone stock, so it is clear that she was in the process of liquidating it. I think it is probable she would have sold the tiny remainder with or without Sam Waksal's heads-up. Why should she be blamed because Waksal's family shared the same broker? The Stewart case might be an example of scapegoating to divert attention from greater crimes. I don't know about that, but I suspect it.

Now, this particular case of the software infringer may have its merits and demerits. But to make the claim of softness on corporations is not fair. Where was the Janet Reno Justice Dept., while all these crimes were taking place? They are only being indicted now, under a Republican administration. I'm not a Republican, not that there's anything wrong with that. But I'm just saying. Reno was too busy burning religious zealots in their own compounds, and rescuing young Cuban emigres from the clutches of democracy and freedom.

"Like Martha? she got 5 months min security while many of her share holders lost thier life savings, "

Out of all the cases of celeberties getting off the hook you could have chosen, you pick the dumbest example possible. She didn't do anything that anybody else wouldn't have. If someone tells you that you better sell, you do. You don't lose all of your money because some cry-babies (who invested their money voluntarily, by the way) will lose theirs, so that somehow means that you should lose yours too.

Someone got an inside tip and sold their stock so they didn't lose big time. boohoo. no fair.

RE: Martha Stewart

If anyone recalls, she wasn't convicted of insider trading, she was convicted of obstruction of justice by lying to the FBI the first time when questioned. If she'd simply owned up to it when questioned, she'd have paid a fine [probably the $15,000 profit from the insider trade] & been home during the holidaze.

If the DOJ is now sucking off to the RIAA, I suggest it do the right thing and rename itself the Department of Injustice.

autodidact...as far as the facts...
I said
"How about really going after all the criminals involved in that ENRON fiasco? Oh yes, Ken Lay has "connections"....
Never mind ."

In evidence of his "connections", when Bush was asked about his relationship with Ken Lay, he stormed off without answering, went backstage and said "Keep those moterfuckers away from me..."

Dems da facts..nothing I said was NOT factual...amd, an indictment is not a conviction....just an allegation of wrongdoing.


When Lay gets hard time in federal prison for his activities..I will make a correction.

If it were me or anyone else on this site I guarentee we wouldn't be sitting up in some country club for a few months like Martha. My new roomie would be named Bruno.

This is really nothing new.

If you read the whole article, you would notice that it says that they are going after who they consider to be "high level figures in large warez groups"

They have been doing this for years.

Think back to the Drink or Die bust, where the DOJ busted one of the largest warez groups of the time (Drink or Die was the group that released Windows 95 three days prior to its official release). Nowhere in this article does it say that they are going after individual P2P users either.

actually, i believe the term used was "leaders or high-level members of international piracy organizations." not joe teenager that gets on Kazaa or Limewire and downloads the occasional Eminem tune or the latest version of Photoshop.

"If anyone recalls, she wasn't convicted of insider trading, she was convicted of obstruction of justice by lying to the FBI the first time when questioned."

I would have denied it too. Lots of people don't think "insider" trading is wrong anyway.

It's not a question really, of whether its wrong or not. We know it's wrong to pirate. Then again look at who we pirate from, most of them are immoral scumbagas who will doanytinhg for a buck. The problem isnt whether itas wrong or not, because both groups are wrong. The problem is who is the greater wrong here? We should go after who is the greater of the two evils. Unfortunately the greater of the two has an ungodly amount of money and will sue your ass.

"Then again look at who we pirate from"

This is a boycott website. If you're still trying to aquire RIAA material, you're in the wrong place.

"Like Martha? she got 5 months min security while many of her share holders lost thier life savings..."

What a stupid thing to post. Martha's stockholders lost nothing in the ImClone debacle. Martha's stockholders only suffered a brief drop and then have came back up.

Get yer shizzle straight before you post.

No, no. When crying about inequality always make sure to be wrong. "Oh sure, this is just like [incorrect example of inequality, despite the numerous perfeclty legit examples that exist]." If I came to this website and didn't see that I'd think I fell into another dimension.

bullshit!

And the irony here is that (at one point in the last few months) if she had held onto them instead of selling them off, she would have made some money on them, NOT gotten in trouble of any sort, except perhaps for selling overpriced towels and washcloths...

how much will people take getting pushed around, persecuted, squashing, spied on, torn from their families and threatened with all manner of punishments...

.... isnt that what starts revolutions and terrorism?



you have fought fire with fire... and they are still coming up smelling of roses is it really true, the masses are ceasing to care? give up, roll over and play dead?

no way. with every beat of my heart i would STILL be fighting all those who oppress, ridicule and even dare to control my way of life. they rob us EVERY day. so lets just keep doing it back. they cant imprison ALL of us.

over

besides, i can still have a good laugh at Britney

Its good to see the DOJ getting results when it counts but lets hope that using them doesn't become a substitute for appropriate responses to the new technologies by copyright owners, ie providing legitimate on-line services and taking care of their own houses.

Never thought I would see a "starvation diet" for a troll, lols.

Wow. The DOJ busts one guy, takes him to court on criminal charges, the guy rolls over and is headed to jail.

The RIAA subpoenas 7000 people on civil charges, takes none of them to court, a few roll over and cough up the extortion money.

"appropriate responses to the new technologies by copyright owners, ie providing legitimate on-line services and taking care of their own houses."

"copyright owners" = RIAA
"legitimate" = RIAA product only
"on-line services" = substandard audio + DRM + overpriced
"taking care of their own houses" = I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. Start keeping manufacturing records? Report honest data? Allow "creators" to retain their copyrights? Tell the truth one day in a row?

From my hometown no less!! Whoo hoo!! Go Hawkeyes!!!!!!

Ziemann rules!