http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4050000/newsid_4058900/4058987.stm

Pupils get lessons on downloading

Kids are set to get lessons on how to download, copy and swap music legally after some people got in trouble for ripping off the music industry.

Music and education bosses have teamed up to put together a pack, which will also teach kids about careers in music and how artists make their money.

Around 1,600 schools have signed up for the lessons for 11 to 14-year-olds.

Music firms have got tough on illegal downloading, with one 12-year-old in the US getting a huge fine last year.

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Music piracy, including illegally swapping music online, costs the music industry millions each year and has been blamed for a decline in CD sales.

Brian McFadden is among the artists who have spoken out on the issue.

"The more that's downloaded illegally the less money there is for record companies to try and develop new acts and it just means you're going to have less and less new artists coming out and that's the only sad part," he told Newsround.

Click here to read out full interview with Brian

"For me it's okay and people that are already established it doesn't really affect us that much. But for new artists it really does affect them."
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Please use the box on their website to show how you feel about this. Regardless of whether you are a child or not!

outright lies - this is the kind of stuff that if exposed in the mainstream media could really get the public to realize the **AA for the evil terrorists they are.

But hope is not lost - they probably haven't figgured out that when you tell kids to not do something they end up doing it.

More propaganda on the way to brainwash kids. Why am I not surprised.

also to add.... I would love to be a student in one of those "lessons".

Grr "Around 1,600 schools have signed up for the lessons" - "Brian McFadden is among the artists who have spoken out on the issue."

It's like everyone is a fucking puppet to these companies. The government, the artists, the media and now the schools.

Brian McFadden? Never heard of him.

"Music and education bosses have teamed up to put together a pack, which will also teach kids about careers in music and how artists make their money."

Hmmm... How DO artists make their money after they give their copyrights away to the label? By touring until they drop dead.

Whoever said "honesty is the best policy" obviously didn't make much money. Apparently you have to be so ruthless and deceitful that you should fart soap bubbles from the 3 bars wedged in your mouth.

fileshaRing musIc is AgAinst the law. AH. propaganda even though I don't download, I just too, just to piss the RIAA off. I support Illegal downloaders though. But theres som,e god legal download sites where you can get independent music free, Good Stuff.

Maybe what's-his-name does have a point, though. Maybe it does affect new artists--the internet seems to be quite capable of introducing new music to the masses without the record companies' intervention. But the effect it might have could be positive for new artists -- unless your name is Britney or whoever is the rage this week, and the record companies have paid to have your new hit song played so many times the cat runs away from home when he hears it again.

To the students of any of these 1600 + RIAA lie-monger infested schools:

PLEASE educate yourselves and organize!
PLEASE fight for your own rights and do not be brainwashed into being "good little RIAA consumers." Learn the TRUTH from sites like ours, creativecommons.org freeculture.org and get activist on their ass with sites like downhillbattle.org . It is in your best interest and that of our society to fight them. They invaded YOUR school. FIGHT BACK!

Shmoo, of Electric Gypsy
Support Local and Independent Music!

...and don't forget. itunes and the like are NOT acceptable! NO DRM infected mp3/music file ever is! There is such a thing as FAIR USE still alive in this country. FIGHT TO KEEP IT!

Hey, Shmoo--you know 11-14 year olds already know it. They do need to learn not to get in trouble, but nobody's foolin' them!!

Seems like this is all you hear on the education side. Indoctrinate the kids, crap I think a RIAA inoculation might be a better choice. If no one wanted their music then it wouldn't be an issue.

Bet if that was the case they would be begging folks to d/l it just so there might be a chance they could sell something in the future.

Gee, will they educate on how the record lables keep their artists in virtual servitude, while paying them pennies on the dollar for each record sold, requireing repayment of advance fees, studio time, touring costs, etc while the lable makes huge profit from every CD sold?

You know the first lesson will be "If Your CD is Green on the Bottom, Then It's Not Legal".

Lesson Two will be about uninstalling a filesharing application.

And Lesson Three will be about installing something like iTunes, Sony Connect or Windows Music Store and all the DRM associated with the same.

After that they'll go after the sadistic side of kids and have them "pretend" to sue filesharers and then lock them up for listening to that new Britney Spears song.

"fileshaRing musIc is AgAinst the law. AH. propaganda even though I don't download, I just too, just to piss the RIAA off. I support Illegal downloaders though. But theres som,e god legal download sites where you can get independent music free, Good Stuff."
is that you edmund? from rangerboard?

Ripping off the music industry? At $16.95 per cd, who is ripping off who?

Interesting. If you download music from a music site backed by the music industry you're safe. Looks like a microsoft con/monopoly job.

"If you download music from a music site backed by the music industry you're safe."

Mostly because the music is unusable, below minimum standards, device-restricted, and content-challenged.

Not to mention that lable backed music is crippleware infected all around.

"the record companies have paid to have your new hit song played so many times the cat runs away from home when he hears it again."

LOL

Done! I dont know what happens to the message now through... it said one of their team will read it.

Couldn't say it any better than Shmoo did.

:-:~ Phantom

yeah right they're going to teach kids to not use p2p networks. that's going to be about as successfull as teaching teenagers to not have sex.

Let's hope so captdunsel

"When a frog is dropped into a pot with hot water - it jumps out immediately (almost?) unharmed....but if it is put into a pot of cold water which is then heated slowly it will stay in the pot and boil to death because it can't tell when it is getting too hot until it is too late......
That scientific fact seems like such an apt description of the human condition as well. If life takes a turn for the worse slowly, just a lit bit at a time....when do we decide to act or make a change? I find this a most difficult question...." -Ottmar Liebert

I think it's funy that they think it's sad that record companies can't develop new acts. We are here developing ourselves. They just want to use money to create boy-bands and corporate puppets, eg. avril, nsync, etc.

Is anyone able to obtain copies of the lesson material? I dont know any primary school teachers.

I don't think it's on the internet yet, goldenpi--I found this

European Music Copyright Alliance

http://www.emcaweb.net/events.html

http://www.emcaweb.net/school.html

but I don't think they're quite ready to begin the brainwashing just yet.

"oh won't you please think of the children?"

I love Fox...

I replied to their little box on the right. Here's what I wrote:

"I laugh at this. what part of the music industry is "ripped off?" And what happens to indie music that isn't part of the norm?"
too bad it didn't all go thru and they have to "review" it for relevancy. I have a suspicion the only part of the story heard is the one BBC wants shown.