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Floyd hit kids sue for unpaid cash
Posted by AdminCodeWarrior in on November 26, 2004 at 3:27 PM



"They are owed their money and we lodged the first claim last week," Rowan told Reuters. "I've been working on it for almost two years."

Music teacher Alun Renshaw took the school pupils to a nearby recording studio without the permission of the headmistress after being approached by the band's management.

The lyrics "We don't need no education, we don't need no thought control, no dark sarcasm in the classroom -- teachers leave them kids alone" were described by the Inner London Education Authority as scandalous."

Read the rest at:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/11/26/pinkfloyd.wall.reut/index.html



User Comments

Otherindependentm...
Date: November 26, 2004 @ 3:57 PM
Does anyone else have problems getting the pages to load at the boycott-riaa.com site? I am posting from the dmusic mirror.

Hey, leave them kids alone!
Intermediatehawk7771
Date: November 26, 2004 @ 4:36 PM
sometimes it loads mostly you have to keep trying.
Leave them kids alone!
RockgdZiemann
Date: November 26, 2004 @ 4:39 PM
Yeah, Schmoo. It's been screwy for a couple days. Hangs when it's looking for an ad, I think.

As for the topic...
25 years and just now someone figured out that the kids didn't get paid? Et tu, Gilmore?
Otherindependentm...
Date: November 26, 2004 @ 5:34 PM
When the song was a hit I remember wondering if the kids were paid anything... now I guess we know.
DMemberTotallyFrust...
Date: November 26, 2004 @ 6:44 PM
I also get a pop-up from Spybot that tells me it is bolcking double-click from loading. I'm betting it is from the casino add.
DMemberstilltrying
Date: November 26, 2004 @ 6:59 PM
Damn that was a long time ago!!! I wonder how old these "kids" are now????? It's always something!!!!
DMemberPyroHazard
Date: November 26, 2004 @ 8:33 PM
Hey Sherman! Leave them kids alone! All in all your just a...nother prick in the wall.
Electroniczeropage
Date: November 26, 2004 @ 8:55 PM
i always wondered why i didn't get paid for visiting school...
IntermediateBufo
Date: November 26, 2004 @ 9:18 PM

OK, here is an idea for another contest similar to the 'Liberal vs Conservative' we had earlier.

---- Using as a basis the Lyrics that the children sang in the Pink Floyd song, come up with a new set of Lyrics for the 'children' to sing which relates to their frustration & efforts at getting their royalties paid ----
Intermediatewet1
Date: November 27, 2004 @ 2:28 AM
Hmmm, I had that problem with long delays in loading the webpage. Solution, add the address that is showing to your host file and use the 127.0.0.1 as a redirect back to your own computer. Speeds it right back up. You may find the host file located at C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\host. Open with notepad.
DMemberTinker35
Date: November 27, 2004 @ 3:06 AM
When I saw the story on the evening news the anchor-women were so cluesless. They just laughed it off saying that the kids were anonymous.

From CNN's article: "The school was paid 1,000 pounds and later given a platinum record of the song but the individuals involved were never paid."

That would indicate to me that the music industry (atleast Floyd's manager) already admitted guilt. They paid the school a token (hush money) and by giving the platinum record they demonstrated that the kids played a significant role in the success of the album. The kids' lawyer should sue the school as well as the RIAA. If it weren't for the head-mistress the kids would have gotten paid and become celebrities. If all the music industry is willing to cough up is a few hundred dollars per kid.. that's highway robbery.
Otherindependentm...
Date: November 27, 2004 @ 6:56 AM
By the same token, I wonder if Pink Floyd got any money from the label for that recording either :D (Big Grin)
IntermediateNiceGuy2003
Date: November 27, 2004 @ 9:17 AM
Eh, you know what they'll say "You were in school, you shouldn't have been paid then, or now."

How about these lyrics. "We finally got our education. We gave into the thought control. Twenty years we went unpaid...Now we want our dough."
IntermediateBufo
Date: November 27, 2004 @ 10:03 AM

Good start, NiceGuy.
RockgdZiemann
Date: November 27, 2004 @ 2:57 PM
What about the operator who tried to call Mr. Floyd? Did she get paid? I think not.

But really... What about the chorus of kids U2 used for, uh, some song? Did they get paid?

Or did they just think it was absolutely the coolest thing they ever did in their life and are still thrilled when they hear their song come on the radio?

Some things, money can't buy.
AdvancedTheSherminator
Date: November 27, 2004 @ 6:10 PM
I will have to agree with George. The kids shouldn't have to be paid because at the time, it was the coolest experience ever. They were just doing it for fun and excitement (imagine that). They didn't ask to be paid. This lawsuit should be considered stupid, but...


If the RIAA is all about "protecting the artists" then why should this have to come to a lawsuit? They should be paying these guys left and right all the money they want. That's why the RIAA exists. To make their artists happy. They make sure the artists get paid. That's why they randomly destroy lives of P2P users - because artists deserve to be paid.. SO PAY 'EM.
DMemberJefrystube
Date: November 27, 2004 @ 9:04 PM
We don't need no litigation
We just want to get our dough
No need to go into the courtroom
We'll settle out-of-court, you know.

Hey! Pink Floyd! Give those kids their dough.
All in all our lawyer's gonna give you a call.
All in all you're just gonna have to pay us all.
DMemberTinker35
Date: November 27, 2004 @ 10:57 PM
Although the kids may have thought it was cool, they didn't waiver their right to proper compensation. As it is, only the school got any compensation and considering it barred the kids from publicizing their particiapation it seems collusion was employed.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: November 28, 2004 @ 1:01 PM
Jefrystube- excellent !!!!!!!!
:) (Smile)
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: November 28, 2004 @ 1:03 PM
another report on it
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4047533.stm
"Former schoolchildren who sang on Pink Floyd's 1979 single Another Brick in The Wall have begun action for unpaid royalties.
Royalties expert Peter Rowan said he was appealing on behalf of one former pupil and was working with others.

The 23 then teenagers from north London have been unable to claim royalties as they recorded their vocals in secret.

The single with its chorus "We Don't Need No Education" became a children's anthem and was a UK and US number one.

The album The Wall, on which the single features, sold more than 12 million copies.

The album was also turned into a semi-animated 1982 film, starring Bob Geldof of as a pop star who descends into madness.

Mr Rowan said: "They (the former schoolchildren) are owed their money and we lodged the first claim last week. I've been working on it for almost two years."

'Scandalous' lyrics

The then pupils from Islington Green School, north London, were taken to a nearby recording studio by their music teacher but without permission from the headmistress.

On hearing the song, she banned the pupils from appearing on TV or video, meaning they had no proof of their involvement on the track.

The lyrics "We don't need no education, we don't need no thought control, no dark sarcasm in the classroom -- teachers leave them kids alone" were also described by the Inner London Education Authority as "scandalous".

The school was paid £1,000 and later given a platinum record of the song but the pupils were paid nothing.

The former headmistress has now agreed to support her former pupils' claim. "
IntermediateNiceGuy2003
Date: November 28, 2004 @ 10:18 PM
"The former headmistress has now agreed to support her former pupils' claim."

Yeah, for a small cut of the money, that is.
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