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ASHCROFT RESIGNS!
Posted by AdminCodeWarrior in on November 9, 2004 at 8:22 PM




WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft, a lightning rod of criticism by civil liberties groups for his anti-terror policies after the Sept. 11 attacks and who once even ordered the robing of two partially nude statues in his department, resigned on Tuesday.

A leading candidate to replace Ashcroft is former Deputy Attorney General Larry Thompson, who once ran the department under Ashcroft and faithfully implemented his policies.

Others candidates were White House counsel Alberto Gonzales, Bush's election campaign chairman Marc Racicot and former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani.

Ashcroft, a devout Christian who once ordered two partially nude statues covered up at the Justice Department so he would no longer be photographed in front of them, began what is expected to be a gradual Cabinet reshuffle ahead of President Bush's second term on Jan. 20.

The Justice Department said Ashcroft's resignation becomes effective when his successor is confirmed.

From:
http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=947867&tw=wn_wire_story


User Comments

Advancedcarla60626
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 8:42 PM
I wonder if the statues will now be uncovered.
Let the eagle soar!
DMemberJefrystube
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 8:46 PM
He covered the statues because he wanted your full attention on the dick in the middle.
Advancedcarla60626
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 8:48 PM
hahahaha
Advancedcaptdunsel
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 9:26 PM
no more asscrack?
AdvancedLachatte
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 9:30 PM
Is Ashcroft one of those cabinet "mistakes" that Bush almost admitted to?
DMemberWhiplash81
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 10:05 PM
I overheard someone saying that a potential canidate to replace Ashcroft was Orrin Hatch. Lets pray to God he doesn't get the job... we all would be forced to move to Canada or Mexico I think..
DMemberMP3user
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 10:14 PM
Let's not be too quick to declare ourselves in the clear. He has to choose his sucessor still, and if it is Hatch, then we are in for some rough years to come. We can only hope he won't replace Ashcroft, and that somebody sensible will take his place.
Advancedpepe512000
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 10:16 PM
DMemberdave109100
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 10:29 PM
One evil for another.....who gives a flying crap about the border and illegals....LETS GO AFTER FILE SHARERS!
DMemberShadowMom
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 10:31 PM
If it is Hatch, do we have to listen to another singing attorney general? Can't we make that illegal?? On the other hand, we'll have a hard time making fun of a name like Larry Thompson.
Jeffrystube--you just made my day!
DMemberWhiplash81
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 10:52 PM
Am I the only one that feels so powerless against this crap? It's great to see Ashcroft gone, but if Hatch comes in his place, what the hell can we do about it? Just sit back and watch him take our freedoms away? I feel like no matter how many letters I write, or who I vote for, or how much I boycott the RIAA, nothing is being done for the better. :/
DMemberShadowMom
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 10:59 PM
We all know how hard it is, but sometimes ya gotta laugh to keep from cryin'. We're all in the same boat.
RockgdZiemann
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 11:00 PM
From Ashcroft's resignation (See Washington Post):

"The objective of securing the safety of Americans from crime and terror has been achieved."
Advancedcompmore
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 11:00 PM
oh good. that means that evil P2P crowd has finally been brought to their knees
DMemberShadowMom
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 11:04 PM
Yeah, I feel better already. Maybe we can get rid of those asinine warnings now.
Pepe, from your link, "Any replacement for Mr. Ashcroft must be questioned vigorously about his commitment to civil liberties." I don't think Hatch could pass that test. He's more committed to the rights of corporations. And Rudy has been kissing ass a lot, so maybe Dubya will reward him instead. Anybody but Hatch, huh?
Advancedcarla60626
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 11:05 PM
No way would Hatch become AG
RockgdZiemann
Date: November 9, 2004 @ 11:10 PM
"Any replacement for Mr. Ashcroft must be questioned vigorously about his commitment to civil liberties."

Because you you have such a commitment, you're thw wrong person for the job.
DMemberrightwingnutjob
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 1:22 AM
Larry Feldman for AG. Of course if that be the case there goes tort reform out the window...
DMemberCapt-n-Jack
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 6:30 AM
Hold on a second...now remind me again who was saying a vote for Bush was a vote for Ashcroft?!?!? It seems very clear he's resigning, right?? That means the earlier comments were just fear mongering, just as I expected!! Btw, I haven't seen a draft yet either!
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 6:43 AM
TORT REFORM? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' TORT REFORM.

By the Way, How Many People Here Besides Larry and I, have read the Second Restatement of Torts....Hands?
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 6:47 AM
http://www.tomwbell.com/NetLaw/Ch05/R2ndTorts.html

http://law.vanderbilt.edu/about/news/2000/wade_conf.html
AND...THE SEQUEL...SON OF THE SECOIND RESTATEMENT OF TORTS...
OR AS I LIKE TO CALL IT...THE SECOND RESTATEMENT OF TORTS REMIX...THE (insert drumroll here)....THIRD RESTATEMENT OF TORTS...
http://library.lp.findlaw.com/articles/file/00849/002259/title/Subject/topic/Products%20Liability_Risk-utility/filename/productsliability_1_916
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 6:49 AM
TYPO ALERT....SECOIND= SECOND
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 7:10 AM
AdvancedLachatte
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 7:22 AM
"Both the Justice Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission have opened investigations."

Wow! Is civil and criminal litigation against filesharers going to take a back seat?
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 7:37 AM
Well...that's one of the ASSES of EVIL down..
now...Rumsfeld and Bush....
:) (Smile)
AdvancedLachatte
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 7:40 AM
Who know, Code?
Maybe they took Vioxx...
Advancedawehr
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 7:45 AM
I love what the bush administration has been calling "reform".

we remove corruption that was there... by handing the keys to our most friendly special interests, or the christian coalition!

kinda reminds me of the "rule of reason", which basically means "we the supreme court choose not to enforce antitrust law because the monopolies bribed us enough this case"
AdvancedLachatte
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 8:02 AM
rightwingnutjob: "He drew up the Patriot Act, which gave the FBI and other agencies powers to tap phones, access private medical and library records, track internet usage and detain immigrants."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/3997987.stm

How does Rush Limbaugh feel about Ashcroft's many accomplishments?
DMemberMP3user
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 9:47 AM
"I feel like no matter how many letters I write, or who I vote for, or how much I boycott the RIAA, nothing is being done for the better. :/"

Times like now, when there is a weakness in the powers that make making our voices heard are shown, is the right time to start up the action again. Grab footing in the doors of voice, before voice gets locked out.
IntermediateNiceGuy2003
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 9:48 AM
Yeah, and Ashcroft's last act as AG has been to ask the Supreme Court to deny an Oregonian's right to die. Oregon is the only state in the Union to have an assisted suicide law, but it only applies to people who have less than six months to live and the diagnosis must be confirmed by two doctors. It's called Death With Dignity, yet it seems that Ashcroft, who claims to be a good Christian, would prefer for the terminally ill to suffer and die a horrid death.

My first stepdad died of leukemia. At the end, he suffered a good deal, but, since NC doesn't have an assisted suicide law, he had to stay on life support up until the moment my mom decided to remove him. My whole family knew he wasn't gonna live. He couldn't even take a bite of Jello without everything coming back up. He lived like that for three months, all in the hospital. Now if we'd had a law such as Oregon's, he could have died with some amount of dignity. While his death was quiet, the man that I saw in the casket looked nothing like the man who'd raised me for most of my life.

So maybe we can convince Bush, who wants to be a good Christian, to appoint someone who will allow someone to die with dignity, instead of someone who will insist that people be hooked up to life support for all eternity, even after their brains are dead.

And to all the people who fear the rise of Orrin Hatch, remember this: The Senate has to confirm him first and, even though the Senate is Republican, those same Republicans never got Induce out of committee.
AdvancedLachatte
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 10:12 AM
I read that, too, NiceGuy. This administration is all about making laws that restrict people's rights. It's all about imposing their morality and judgement on others.
Countrygeetarman
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 10:56 AM
News flash: Kevorkian was just denied release by the parole board here in Oakland, Michigan.
He's been locked up since 1999...
April 13, 1999
Convicted of second-degree murder and delivery of a controlled substance in the death of Youk, a Michigan judge sentences Kevorkian to 10-25 years in prison. He would be eligible for parole in six years. Kevorkian plans to appeal.
He really started a revolution!
He decided a doctor couldn't bleed your account dry before taking your last breath!
See how long they keep you on life support if you don't have insurance!

FREE KEVORKIAN NOW!
Advancedgoldenpi
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 12:11 PM
Very true Lachatte. As I have stated many times, the current administration has a very simple moral policy:

We are Right.
Therefore, anyone who disagrees is Wrong.
Therefore, anyone who disagrees should be either ignored or converted to Right.

Given the current penetration of devout christians in government - from Bush himself down through much of his administration - this is just asking for trouble. Even when Bush and co get forced out in four years, they will have wedged their christian extremism in so tightly it could be another decade before any non-church-sanctioned morals are even considered.

As for Ashcroft: Its hard to see who could be worse. Hatch probably could be through. Just hope he doesn't get in.
DMembermmnuc3
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 12:47 PM
maybe someone should just nuke DC...that'll purify the american's bloodline of some corruption :) (Smile)
Advancedcarla60626
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 1:07 PM
Air America just announced that Bush is picking Gonzalez. He's the one who wrote the memo that said the rules of torture could be changed or did not apply.
AdvancedLachatte
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 1:21 PM
Fox says it's true, too, Carla.
"Gonzales has been at the forefront of developing White House policy about detaining terror suspects for extended periods without access to lawyers or courts. He wrote the February 2002 memo that allowed Bush to claim the right to waive international treaties when it comes to prisoners of war who do not represent other countries. Human rights groups criticized the memo, which they said gave way for abuses like that in the Abu Ghraib prison scandal.

Gonzales may also face questions from conservatives about his core social beliefs. As attorney general, Gonzales would be responsible for elucidating U.S. policies on such issues as abortion and assisted suicide, among others.

In addition, some administration officials say that the choice of Gonzales is a "concern" to them because the Justice Department should have some independence from the White House, and Gonzales is "weak" and "controlled" by the White House.

They also point out that individuals at the White House are being questioned in the grand jury probe over the leak of CIA employee Valerie Plame's name. They question the propriety of having someone from the White House head the Justice Department when the Justice Department is responsible for a probe that is looking into whether someone at the White House committed any wrongdoing.
Gonzales also has served as a partner in a Houston law firm that represented the scandal-ridden energy giant Enron Corp."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138160,00.html
Advancedcarla60626
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 1:46 PM
eeuuwww, quite a number of conflicts of interest.
DMemberFobix
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 2:01 PM
The best thing to do is just let it all slide. You see, the country is fucked, and it's not going to get any better, it's going to get worse. Once you accept it, this all becomes a comic show. Let me tell you something straight up, because you keep pretending it's going to go away: It's going to get worse, not better. Your rights, freedoms, and civil liberties are being flushed down the perverbial toilet as we speak. Let it slide, watch it with amusement. Your kids can deal with it someday.

Your elected representatives want money and power. Large corporations can give it to them. They now represent the large corporations and work for their best interest.

These representatives do not represent you.

You are alone.
Advancedraoulduke1
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 3:31 PM
Author of Anti-Rights Memo to Replace Ashcroft

White House sources have told media outlets that President Bush will name White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales to replace John Ashcroft as US Attorney General.

Although Gonzales is being billed as a moderate, he is best-known as the author of the controversial memo advising the Administration that they need not abide by the Geneva Conventions when it comes to prisoners captured in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere in the "War on Terror."
Advancedpepe512000
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 3:40 PM
This just in... Al Gonzales to replace Ashcroft! Whew???
Folktomsong
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 4:15 PM
Tanks roll at last night's anti-war demonstaration at the LA Federal Building (my neighborhood)--

http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/tanks-on-la-streets.mov
Advancedgoldenpi
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 4:25 PM
On the bright side, the new Mr Evil doesn't seem too concerned about copyright. Through after putting so much into his pet project, Ashcroft took measures to ensure the copyright-enforcing department can continue working.
AdvancedTheSherminator
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 8:52 PM
"He's been locked up since 1999..."

He's been locked up since the Clinton regime. So much for blaming republicans.
AdvancedTheSherminator
Date: November 10, 2004 @ 8:53 PM
"See how long they keep you on life support if you don't have insurance!"

It had to do with the morals of the issue, not insurance, jesus. Read the paper or something.
AdvancedPhantomGhost
Date: November 11, 2004 @ 4:56 AM
Gonzales [soon to be former White House counsel] will be the next AG....the guy who basically drafted the memorandum that reads, as I see it, essentially, like this:

"F**k the Geneva Convention! We'll do whatever we f**cking want to with our 'enemy combatants', as well as YOUR civil liberties. So there!"

That's not someone I want as AG. But that's what we're going to get.

Aschroft was awful - Gonzales will not be any better. You think that they're going to ease up? They are under the impression they have a "mandate"...despite the fact that more people voted against Dubya than any other presidential incumbent history, and not all the votes were even counted. The Republican Party's P.R. folks are masters of manipulation, and they've done a fairly good job this time. But they can't stop Air America Radio from growing...another station this week.

What does this mean for us? Well, probably four more years of "more of the same" type of Justice Department.

I predict those of you who hated Ashcroft will quickly come to at least dislike Gonzales. I already despise him (well, I despise all of them).

Here's to four more years of an unjust Justice Department.

:-:~ Phantom
DMemberfreeforall
Date: November 11, 2004 @ 1:04 PM
The lobby money from Mitch Bainwals group will slant the power to the RIAA....we all know that money talks and bullshit walks. If enough of us could pay off some lobby sharks like they do we could possibly slant the power in our direction. Until then we are at the mercy of who ever gets in there.
Money is power!
DMemberShadowMom
Date: November 11, 2004 @ 7:58 PM
From the Yes, But How Do You Really Feel department, here's one unhappy man with an editorial on Dubya's choice for Ashcroft's replacement. It doesn't look promising, that's for sure. If Dubya extends that hand across the aisle now, he might get it chopped off.
DMemberShadowMom
Date: November 11, 2004 @ 11:24 PM
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_5688.shtml
Sorry....something going on with this site tonight, or is it my 'puter?
Advancedcarla60626
Date: November 12, 2004 @ 10:53 AM
I enjoyed that guy's rant on capitol hill blue. I need to check it more often.
DMemberShadowMom
Date: November 12, 2004 @ 12:58 PM
You'll like the one on there today, too, carla. Thanks to Code for pointing me in their direction. Btw, did you hear a group of anti-abortionists are challenging Bush's selection for AG? I hate to agree with them on anything, but....
Advancedcarla60626
Date: November 12, 2004 @ 2:03 PM
I'd rather see Guiliani as AG.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: November 13, 2004 @ 1:55 PM
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: November 13, 2004 @ 2:00 PM
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