Thoughts?
Transcript
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/debatereferee/debate_1013.html

Will they talk about Domestic Policy?

Whatever they both say, drug companies control congress

heeeheeeheee
EXAG-GER-A-TION!

Bait and switch, Afghanastan and Iraq?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

http://www.maplenet.net/~trowbridge/binWho.htm
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"So I don't know where he is," our commander-in-chief retorted. "You know, I don't spend that much time on him... I am truly not that concerned about him."

From the Whitehouse.gov's own website....
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
"So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I'm more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did. "

King George the Cowardly...are lies now being called "Egg-Za-Jur-A-Shuns">?

When they show Bush listening to Kerry...he reminds me of the Church Lady from Sat Nite Live...as if he is saying to himself...
"Isn't that SPECIAL?"

"He he he he...Gosh , I sure hope it's not the administration."
Funny George, funny.

I have the copyright to the horse and buggy, I am sueing ford

if the gov is that nad then why do we have SS

bad = nad

bad = nad

Is that water or vodka that Bush keeps chucking back...?

He's a fine one to talk about education.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/debatereferee/debate_1013.html
"KERRY: Six months after he said Osama bin Laden must be caught dead or alive, this president was asked, "Where is Osama bin Laden?" He said, "I don't know. I don't really think about him very much. I'm not that concerned."

We need a president who stays deadly focused on the real war on terror.

SCHIEFFER: Mr. President?

BUSH: Gosh, I just don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. It's kind of one of those exaggerations."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/ 03/20020313-8.html
"So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I'm more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did. "

i still have no idea what the plan is

Bush talks about leaving no child behind....Hmmmm..do tell
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to fuck most americans and increase wealth among the wealthy.

Especially after that travesty known as the No Child Left Behind Act.

promise this is the last one?

Just look at his education, carla!! Look at the mess in Houston, and he brought Rod Paige with him!!! Btw, I vote we stop those damned abortions once and for all--require vasectomies!! Come on, guys, step right up! Take responsibility for your own bodies!

I just wish abortion was retroactive and Babs Bush had considered this alternative 58 years ago

how about we debate something meaningful?

if they really wanted to catch bin laden, a few well placed nukes would take care of the issue. fact is, he's worth more to both candidates alive so he will stay that way and on the loose.

now could we debate something that makes a difference?

Is George Bushy's mommy really a reincarnation of George Washington?
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sure was glad to hear from some of the other candidates like Badnarik and Nader and uhhh, wait they haven't got to talk yet.

darn...link didn't work...will put it on my artist page at
http://codewarrior.dmusic.net/

oooh, god wants everyone to be free -- that explains it.

"and they say that a hero will save us,
I'm not gonna stand here and wait..."

ok, now, really, isn't he just creepy?

ok, this is really creepy.

I'm voting for Minnie Mouse no Donald Duck no Spiderman. They not saying a thing. It's the no child left behind act that will increase jobs and money. Yea if it is funded and it will take thirty years. But what about now.

"AN ARMY OF COMPASSSION"....

Is that anything like a Love Bomb...
A Tank of Love....
An AK-47 of Empathy...
The Fuzzy Wuzzy Guillotine
The Patriot Missle of Happiness
The Skud Missle of Joy....
The WMD must be Wonderful Melons of Delight....

Hmmmm...Armies of Compassion....My Lai Massacre of Love?

"there's a lot of entrenced special interests there" (Washington)...W, you mean like Cheney and Halliburton or You and Ken Lay?

This whole business is revolting. I can't stand it anymore. I'm taking all that money I made from the clinton years and moving to Sao Paulo..... what's this? Enron collapsed? my stock is worth nothing? goddammit. does that mean I have to stay for the sequel?

I found pictures of the Armies of Compassion Bush talks about...
http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444

I just love the non partisian comentary

lets fight the real war on terror. spelled the RIAA!!!!

I just had a Kerry suporter come to my door. after I told her what I thought of Kerry she just said "...OOkkay have a good evening" I have a good feeling in my heart

I'm against the RIAA and ALL WHO SIDE WITH THEM AGAINST US>>>LIKE THIS ADMINISTRATION
http://vigilant.tv/article/3114
"DoJ sides with RIAA in Verizon suit
07:24 AM +1000, Apr 22 2003
The US DoJ has apparently sided with the RIAA in its attempt to force Verizon to hand over the name of a subscriber who is accused of copyright infringement. The DoJ brief somehow manages to argue that prosecuting the subscriber will uphold the right to free speech.


A U.S. Justice Department brief, filed Friday in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, supports the effort by the Recording Industry Association of America to force Verizon Internet Services Inc. to identify a subscriber suspected of offering more than 600 songs from well-known artists.
Verizon has asked a federal judge to halt a subpoena for the subscriber's identity, arguing it violates the U.S. Constitution because it does not provide "protection of the expressive and associational interests of Internet users."

[...]

The Justice Department filing said the subpoena was legal and no constitutional protection would be violated through disclosure of the name. The Justice Department brief contends upholding copyright law itself would "promote First Amendment ideals.

- AP, White House sides with record firms in Net music fight. "

That's good comp...
No Bush people come to my door...I probably would thank them for them time and advise them I will not be choosing to vote for a moron who screams "Bring it On" and throws other people's kids at the beheaders...but hey, that's just me.
< wink >

george looks like ne needs a drink.

for their time....sorry for typo

He's gonna be shooting back Wild Turkey like there's no tomorrow...
guys often do that when they get their ass kicked in front of millions...BUSH that is.

armies of compassion eh?

I could probably find a list of headless men who aren't going to have a lot of sympathy for the iraqis

maybe she thought you'd bring out your gun compmore, that's why she beat a hasty retreat.

I'm on my third beer. anyone joing me??We can all kill a barrell and try to save each others souls...

the zombie army of gwb

LOL I don't own a gun but I've been thinking about getting into the hobby.

Sao Paulo sure sounded good....

I'll have a beer with you compmore. it will make work more interesting

In all fairness I did also tell her what I think of Bush. she said she voted for nader last time and it was a wasted vote. I told her the only wasted vote is when You vote for someone cause you hate the other guy and not because you believe in the one you vote for. I'm back to the third pary search.

whew, that's a relief. Can't mix alcohol and firearms.

Comp..may I suggest my fave...a 357 Magnum with Hollopoints...
or, a Remington Express Magnum Full Bore 12 gauge....

Rack the 12 gauge and goons scatter

hollowpoints...

Well...gotta turn in kids...been fun...
Love and Peace...and Pray for the Guys and Gals across the seas in Iraq and other countries....

Semper Fi to the Marines out there...
Night

Code, My son who just got back from Iraq told me his baby is the 44 mag long barrell.

a .357 is a good gun. I carried one for years. 9mm is a p.o.s. shotguns are nice for large crowds. if you really want something that stings get a CZ83 (it's an old weapon made in the former country of Czechoslovakia. yeah it a commie gun but it rules). and there's just something about a Glock 40. but as we saw in the abu grath photos, nothing is better than a well trained german shepard.

still waiting for the indies to get their turn to debate......

I don't think I could stand 4 more years, compmore, much as I think of you. Remember, I (and your mom) have to put up with a double dose of Bushiness here in the Sunshine State. And I got a real kick out of that reference to God and freedom--God wants you to be free, even if it kills you. I'm so happy--for the first time in my life, my voter's registration came in the mail today. I have never wanted to vote before, because I didn't see any difference to speak of in the candidates. Pat yourselves on the back, all you people here, 'cause the only reason I did it is that I started to visit here, then I started to read; then I read some more; and now I drive everyone crazy talking politics and RIAA all day long. But I've gotten a few people interested, and that's how it works, I guess. Hopefully, they get a few people interested, and so on.. Now I can't wait to vote!!

P.S. Anyone who's still interested, the No Child Left Behind Act is based on a total farce. Houston (where it started) is in a lot of hot water with the feds right now for falsifying records. They didn't leave the children behind--they just..."misplaced" them. And Secretary of Education Rod Paige was running the show at the time.

Really? A new voter? Because of us?
Amazing. That's so cool.
I come from a family of serious voters. Maybe it's an ethnic thing. I bet Tony Soprano votes.

I liked the question about the role of religion. Did you catch what Bush said about prayer?

Let's see. He said he prays a lot. He prays for guidance. It gives him "calmness", I think he said.

let's hope something good comes out of this election. I really don't see it happening no matter who wins but I guess we'll find out.

changing the subject just slightly, Jake Plummer gave up his fight with the national fools league over wearing Pat Tillmans number on his helment.

read the story here

http://9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=93932e25-0abe-421a-004c-46ee44619787&TEMPLATEID=af6b6b60-ac1f-02c5-0012-a9383dc2f691


I hope paul tagliabue is happy now. he has climb in esteem to the ranks of cary sheman and john asscrack.

Shadowmom. I agree about the no child left behind. it's just a catch phrase that ties up the education system. My 11th grade daughter hates that program too. but I'm sorry to burst your bubble. My mom is behind Bush 100%.

carla60626 "Can't mix alcohol and firearms." Well, apparently some do down there. When we were passing through Montana a couple of years ago, the first hotel we hit had this huge "beer and ammo" sign lit up ...I just looked at my husband, shook my head and said "God Bless America"

Voting Bush out may be the best way to break up this new intellectual property task force that John FASCIST ASHCROFT has just announced!!! Just read some of the recent articles. That guy is psycho and needs to be thrown out as the Attorney General!!!!

that's not bad pepe, visit compton or watts in LA sometime. there's so much ammo and so many guns that by the time you leave you really need a beer....

prideful-chris19 you had just made the first argument against Bush I've heard here that makes sense to me. I'm sure others may have but either I didn't see it or it was mixed with personal anomosity. thanks.

time to go fight crime and keep the world safe from democracy.

have a good night all and don't get drafted

Haven't you heard? There WILL BE NO DRAFT. And that's on the record, Dubya. And as far as I know, it's still in the subcommittee's little folder under "Things to Do." And, yeah, one brand new voter, but my husband and son both had voter registration cards already, and had never voted. Guess what? It's a family thing--we're ALL voting this year. See what I mean? One by one by one...I'm working on my Republican family members, but (forgive me, pepe) they get so involved in George's religious zeal, they can't see him doing any wrong. What is it --20 days or so?--to finish browbeating them all!!!

Bush got his shit ruined.

VOTE. VOTE. VOTE. VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

ShadowMom, you've got to listen to the last 15 minutes of the debate when George said that he knows that people all over the country are praying for him. I believe him. I am one of them. I keep saying: God help us!

Nader VOTERS aren't responsible for this.. over 100 MILLION NON-VOTERS were responsible.. ain't gonna happen again.. as for draft, the armies of "compassion" will most likely be composed of poor kids of color.. and if Bush lied about going to this war of choice, as Johnson did, he will also lie about NO DRAFT.

I'm praying for him . . . to lose the election.
How about that?

I'm praying for us.
Bush is preying on us.

George, you're right; I'm praying about you too.
I believe in prayer -- that it changes things.
And what needs changing is YOUR ADMINISTRATION!

'Code, that's a good one. Right on, man!

Very good, gentlemen.
Mary, I feel like you do about the draft. Word spread on the "internets" and he had to respond. I don't believe him.

did some say skull

Calm down, victor, it's a bad skull. Lachatte, I'm not religious but I pray for us all ... especially if he wins. I wasn't scared of his daddy, and I wasn't scared of Nixon, but this cowboy scares the daylights out of me. And even more, he scares me for the future my daughter might face because of him. I call him the Twinkie in the White House, but the people I hate most in the world are the ones who, under color of religion, commit the most foul acts. And he qualifies. And Jazzmary, we are all voting here. Since brother Jeb blocked the paper trail down here, we may vote by absentee ballot--it's the only way to ensure a paper trail. But we will most definitely vote. And Lachatte--I'm with you. How many lies have they told us already? Pepe, I'm making reservations up your way--recommend a good hotel. Because hell will freeze over before they get my baby in a draft. Period.

Isn't that a hoot? 4 hurricanes this year, and I won't budge. This is home. But start talking draft to me, and I'm out of here. Why? The future. And it doesn't lie in war. Too many children have already died. George ain't gettin' mine, and his better be the first in line.

I disagree with the draft as well. But children don't get drafted. You have to be 18.

If you disagree, what does the age matter? You got a mother, right? You think you aren't still her child? Are you less precious because you are eighteen? What does that have to do with it?

I don't believe kerry on the drat

he said he doesn't want one but he will draft people as it's the only way to do what he wants.

remember the draft bill was introduced by a democrat...

What draft bill? And what democrat? Before I vote, please tell me who I'm not voting for.

I don't understand what's the big deal about this draft stuff. it's DOA. only one congressman is actively advocating it. and that's Charlie Rangel a Democrat. critizing Bush on his record is fair game. critizing him on what he says, or doesn't say, is also fair game. but speculating and criticizing him on something he may or may not do (Kerry says he won't accept a draft either) isn't. if we call him a liar on it we need to call Kerry a liar too.

BTW Mothers are naturally protective of their children. that makes them good moms. but at the age of 18 the adult decides for him or herself. If they feel it's right for them to go ( as thousands do) then that's the way it is. My father yelled and screamed at me for voting for Dukakis in 1988. I loved and respected him but I told him that's what I want, please respect it.

But I do agree with shadow mom that if the draft went through and my son didn't want to go, I'd move hell to keep him out, including helping him leave the country. if he decided to go, I'd respect it as his choice even though I don't like it.

very profound objective and dealing strickly with the facts in a balanced unbiased fashioned way. I'm sure that'll sway those independant voters.

Hey I could be a politician I said that with a straight face.

Shadowmom asked:
What draft bill? And what democrat? Before I vote, please tell me who I'm not voting for

Charles Rangel (D-NY) introduced a bill to reinstate the draft in the House, which was defeted by the hourse 402-2. I'm still looking for who submitted the proposal in the senate, but it was also a democrat. BWT, the tow REps that voted for the bill were Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., and Rep. Pete Stark, D-CA.

They claim that it is to bring atention to the fact that no member of congress has a child in Iraq, and that only the poor, and minorities, are fighting the war on terror.

For the transcript and interesting format of comments and facts, using a Debate Referee, check out this site: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/debatereferee/debate_1013.html#29

Lothar2: Senate bill (S.89) - Democratic Sen. Ernest Hollings introduced it.

ShadowMom: This article addresses the e-mail rumors of an impending draft of all young people 18-26. What do you think?
http://www.factcheck.org/article200.html

I've been gone all night and you guys are still on that draft thing?

I've got kids, capt. And I got the e-mails about a draft. I'm just doing my homework.

Lachatte--I read your link about the draft. it was interesting, but do you watch any professional sports on a regular basis? Bush saying there will be no draft is just like when an owner of a team gives his coach a vote of confidence. In a matter of days, the coach is usually looking for a new job. As long as the bill sits there ready to activate, we have to keep an eye on it. A very close public eye, because we all know we can trust the government to tell us the truth--Republicans and Democrats alike. I hope they really see the problems with the draft, and how it divides a country far worse than the divisions we now have. If they don't, the sixties didn't teach them anything.

captdunsel, we are nothing if not thorough. Music isn't the only important thing, you know. We could also discuss GW's education record, if you'd like. But just to make you happy, how 'bout we talk about music--and just to keep somewhere in the vicinity of the topic, why didn't any questions for the candidates involve "piracy?" If Ashcroft thinks it's so important, it should have been brought up at some point, but not a word. Okay, capt?

Oh boy, I'm post #100: did you see the look on George's face when Kerry said they had all married "up." I bet mama Barbara was having a fit.

Whoever told George not to scowl should have told him not to smile, either. Talk about scary.

Yea his smile was scary, he was better off scowling. Well I think hes starting to realize the election is not quite in the bag he thought it was.

Michael Peroutka would be the ideal candidate. Alas, it doesn't seem like he will get his chance. So here's to another 4 years with the man.

By the way, this is my first post. Hope you enjoyed it. Or lack thereof.

I'm not really sure what you said. Are you predicting a Bush win?

'Bush Wired' Story Continues; 'Bulge' Appears in Third Debate

You can see picture here.
http://www.washingtondispatch.com/culture/archives/000651.html

Not Baghdad Bob anymore
Now Baghdad Bush

I thought I saw the bulge in the 3rd too.