I got this at Slyck.com : Quote:
Hello everyone. As many now may know, the
FBI and DoJ have executed search warrants on
some of us, and questioned others (myself
included). It's unfortunate they cannot get
their facts straight before spouting off to
the press. (Same goes for the press... they
really should be checking their facts.)
To those who have no clue what I'm talking
about, try Google News. (search for:
underground network p2p)
If you read an article, and came here
looking for answers or are curious as to
what's going on, I'm about to fill you in.
After all, I'm the "Answer Man". (Was odd to
hear the FBI refer to me by that title as
too.)
There have been many misconceptions in the
handful of articles I've read. They all
claim to be the same article by Curt
Anderson of the Associated Press. Funny how
I've read 30 different versions of the same
article, written by the same person. It's
difficult to tell how many facts were
blatently wrong to begin with, but it's
downright upsetting how many are currently
wrong. I could never begin to explain all
the misconstuded facts, as I haven't read
them all.
However, I would like to clear up a few
"facts" I've read about a place I've been
involved in for some time. That place: The
Underground Network.
First off, I've yet to figure out the "100
Gigabyte minimum requirement" claim for
joining the network. What is it to join the
network anyway? What is the network? These
are the questions so many have wrong. If
you're talking about the forums... which is
the only thing there IS to join in any
sense, then there are no requirements. Well,
no requirements past having access to a
computer, the Internet, and an email
account, plus being older then 13 (or lying
that you are). It's the standard
"requirements" of any other vB forum. There
are thousands of them out there. Check
Google.
So that must not be what they are talking
about when they say "members are required to
share 100gb of copyrighted material to join"
(quoting a story posted to the
Register.co.uk). Excuse me? If they are
talking about the hubs, well, you don't
"join the network" to login to a hub. You
connect to one of the hubs with our name in
it. That's really all there is to it. We are
just a collection of people with similar
interests (read the forums to learn some of
them) who also help eachother out in the
hubs. To join a hub (like all other 13,000+
Direct Connect hubs out there, besides
ours), you need a preset "minshare" that the
hub decides. That is, files you are willing
to share with other users in that hub. We do
NOT police these files beyond the stuff we
KNOW is illegal (underage porn, beastality,
etc). Beyond that we are very clear with one
point: THE USER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR
SHARE!
If you connect to one of the hubs with our
name on it and are sharing files you
shouldn't, then YOU made a boo-boo. Not us.
The media and the FBI seem to have missed
this point. I've seen write-ups about how
much info "is stored on" or "passes through
hubs". They claim "up to 60,000 movies and
18 million songs a day" (again, quoting an
article). EXCUSE me? No... the hubs don't
hold a SINGLE byte of digital information.
They don't even transfer any of it from user
to user in fact. Did anyone bother to do the
research? They didn't call the protocol and
application "Direct Connect" because it
sounded pretty. Once you are in the hub as a
USER (not a member - nothing to join), you
DIRECTLY CONNECT to the other users in the
hub. Not too complicated... yet the FBI
"infiltrated and investigated for 3 months"
and they still have the facts wrong. John
Ashcroft has some explaining to do. It's a
scary world we live in if our own government
gathers and uses their facts this way.
Oh there is so much else. Yes, users are
required to share to connect to the hub. It
can be a FREE open source (non-copyrighted)
Linux operating system downloaded from
http://www.LinuxISO.org. It could be
programs YOU wrote that you want to
distribute. It could be a song YOU recorded
to MP3 that you want the world to hear.
That's up to you. That's the USER'S
responsibility. We do not condone or
encourage piracy of any form. Unfortunately
this fact also escaped the powers that be. A
'hub' is simply a meeting place for people
to come to and have fun, chat, and share
what THE USER decides they want to ( and is
responsible for). The hub operator DOES NOT
in ANY way share or distrubute ANY material,
copyrighted or otherwise.
Browse around the forums. You will see what
we do. We chat with each other on current
events. We help each other with hardware or
software troubles. We joke around and have
fun. We provide a shoulder to cry on if you
had a bad day. We share knowledge and
information, just like every other forum on
the planet. We don't ask, suggest, or force
you to share illegal files or spread
copyright material ourselves. (In fact,
frequently we will remind people that it's
not welcome on our forums. Once again,
browse around and see for yourself.) Those
"facts" are simply fabrication of the press,
or worse, the FBI/DoJ.
I'll repeat what I told the special agent
this morning when he came knocking:
You guys are on a wild goose chase. You're
going after the wrong people in this
scenario. Instead of the administrators and
hub owners, you need to be worrying about
the USERS that are sharing 100+ GBs of these
files the FBI claimed they downloaded. The
hub owner didn't push that file on you. YOU
requested it, then DIRECTLY CONNECTED to the
other user to download it. The hubs simply
provide a meeting place for people with like
interests. You can chat, get help, or share
files. What you do is up to YOU.
The "organization" and "admins" of the
network are also misunderstood.
We are not some massive group plotting
against anyone. It's just everyday people
with some free time that have tried to help
out others when they could. Look at my
posts, for example, and you'll see what I
mean. I was made an "administrator of the
network" simply because I have computer
knowledge and could help users/"members"
when necessary.
I like to help - it's what makes me tick.
That isn't a crime. Each person does their
own thing. Some help keep the forums running
well. Some help keep the website up. Others
help the hub owners with their computer
problems. No one is a "ring leader". No one
organizes any "warez" rings or checks the
non-existant "minimum requirements of
members". Misconstrued facts + false
information = ignorance & innocent people
having their hard earned personal property
seized. Nothing more, nothing less. Don't be
one of the ignorant ones - know the facts
and realize the truth.
Hopefully this will clear up a few
misconceptions and blatant lies about what
the Underground Network is. I certainly hope
the press will dig into the REAL facts, and
actually tell the truth.
I also hope that the FBI/DoJ will realize
their mistake(s) and not cause any more
undue harm to us.