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RIAA wants your fingerprints
Posted by DMembercw in on June 4, 2004 at 5:58 PM



RIAA wants your fingerprints
By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
Published Friday 4th June 2004 21:36 GMT

Not content with asking for an arm and a leg from consumers and artists, the music industry now wants your fingerprints, too. The RIAA is hoping that a new breed of music player which requires biometric authentication will put an end to file sharing.

Established biometric vendor Veritouch has teamed up with Swedish design company to produce iVue: a wireless media player that allows content producers to lock down media files with biometric security. This week Veritouch announced that it had demonstrated the device to the RIAA and MPAA.

"In practical terms, VeriTouch's breakthrough in anti-piracy technology means that no delivered content to a customer may be copied, shared or otherwise distributed because each file is uniquely locked by the customer's live fingerprint scan," claims the company.

iVue has been developed in partnership with Swedish design house Thinking Materials. Since Veritouch already supplies security authentication systems up to Homeland Defense standards (in partnership with an Israeli defense contractor), we do forsee exciting synergies ahead, should budget cuts force the War on Terror and the War on Piracy to be consolidated into just the one unwinnable "war".


User Comments

DMemberdreddsnik2
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 7:15 PM
Simple Solution.
Won't buy one.
AdvancedDeadMan2003
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 7:18 PM
These will sell like hotcakes.

Sarcasm mode off.
Intermediatehawk7771
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 7:34 PM
Won't ever need one. I'll give them the middle finger by golly.
Advancedpepe512000
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 7:53 PM
I don't even have a comment for this, I'm too busy laughing...
DMemberpeatrap
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 7:55 PM
I have no arms, what will I do? This is not handie cap accessable, I, gona sue.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 7:57 PM
I nominate this for the stupidest damn invention of the 21st century.
Intermediatewet1
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 8:06 PM
Dang vampires, next they will want your blood and you know someone will be stupid enough to give it to them.

So in the future they are going to want you to buy some new media and player. Lols, fat chance...
DMemberStonedGecko
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 8:08 PM
Ok, so the next generation of players will want my fingerprint, blood sample, hair sample, semen sample, saliva and skin samples, and a retina scan? It'll make a good BB gun target.
WorldIndierockgal
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 8:51 PM
What's next for pigmedia, DNA??? Stay out of Forensics and stick to what you know best mediaslugs, Bush Bashing, Pre-teen Porn flicks, Sneaky Lawsuits, And making the world unsafe with your crappy popstars and your horrendous music.
Intermediatesurfside6
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 9:03 PM
Yea right, nuff said
Advancedcarla60626
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 9:28 PM
As long as we're talking stupid -- OJ Simpson is such a goddam liar.
Advancedcaptdunsel
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 9:54 PM
next they can just brand 666 on your forehead.....
IntermediateNiceGuy2003
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 10:17 PM
So I suppose if you have a bad accident which causes you to lose both hands, then you'll never be able to listen to music again.

Not to mention that if you injure your fingers just right, then you lose your fingerprints until they can heal. In other words, you can have a small scratch on your finger and this software will assume that you're someone else and refuse to play the music.

*warning, labelling RIAA as Nazis forthcoming*

This reeks of Aryan supremacy as best put forth by Adolf Hitler himself. Now people will be excluded for having no hands! Why not just tattoo barcodes on our forearms, you moneygrubbing freaks!
DMemberzippythechip...
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 10:33 PM
"Why not just tattoo barcodes on our forearms, you moneygrubbing freaks!"

They'd like that.
Intermediateboggieman
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 10:34 PM
The end of music as we know it....
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 10:35 PM
"Lest we forget..."
Techno giant IBM should be held responsible for its significant contributions to the Third Reich's attempt at the Final Solution.

The technical expertise of IBM is documented here:
"Mankind barely noticed when the concept of massively organized information quietly emerged to become a means of social control, a weapon of war, and a roadmap for group destruction. The unique igniting event was the most fateful day of the last century, January 30, 1933, the day Adolf Hitler came to power. Hitler and his hatred of the Jews was the ironic driving force behind this intellectual turning point. But his quest was greatly enhanced and energized by the ingenuity and craving for profit of a single American company and its legendary, autocratic chairman. That company was International Business Machines, and its chairman was Thomas J. Watson.

Der Führer's obsession with Jewish destruction was hardly original. There had been czars and tyrants before him. But for the first time in history, an anti-Semite had automation on his side. Hitler didn't do it alone. He had help.

In the upside-down world of the Holocaust, dignified professionals were Hitler's advance troops. Police officials disregarded their duty in favor of protecting villains and persecuting victims. Lawyers perverted concepts of justice to create anti-Jewish laws. Doctors defiled the art of medicine to perpetrate ghastly experiments and even choose who was healthy enough to be worked to death-and who could be cost-effectively sent to the gas chamber. Scientists and engineers debased their higher calling to devise the instruments and rationales of destruction. And statisticians used their little known but powerful discipline to identify the victims, project and rationalize the benefits of their destruction, organize their persecution, and even audit the efficiency of genocide. Enter IBM and its overseas subsidiaries.

Solipsistic and dazzled by its own swirling universe of technical possibilities, IBM was self-gripped by a special amoral corporate mantra: if it can be done, it should be done. To the blind technocrat, the means were more important than the ends. The destruction of the Jewish people became even less important because the invigorating nature of IBM's technical achievement was only heightened by the fantastical profits to be made at a time when bread lines stretched across the world.

So how did it work?

When Hitler came to power, a central Nazi goal was to identify and destroy Germany's 600,000 Jews. To Nazis, Jews were not just those who practiced Judaism, but those of Jewish blood, regardless of their assimilation, intermarriage, religious activity, or even conversion to Christianity. Only after Jews were identified could they be targeted for asset confiscation, ghettoization, deportation, and ultimately extermination. To search generations of communal, church, and governmental records all across Germany-and later throughout Europe-was a cross-indexing task so monumental, it called for a computer. But in 1933, no computer existed.

When the Reich needed to mount a systematic campaign of Jewish economic disenfranchisement and later began the massive movement of European Jews out of their homes and into ghettos, once again, the task was so prodigious it called for a computer. But in 1933, no computer existed. When the Final Solution sought to efficiently transport Jews out of European ghettos along railroad lines and into death camps, with timing so precise the victims were able to walk right out of the boxcar and into a waiting gas chamber, the coordination was so complex a task, this too called for a computer. But in 1933, no computer existed.

However, another invention did exist: the IBM punch card and card sorting system-a precursor to the computer. IBM, primarily through its German subsidiary, made Hitler's program of Jewish destruction a technologic mission the company pursued with chilling success. IBM Germany, using its own staff and equipment, designed, executed, and supplied the indispensable technologic assistance Hitler's Third Reich needed to accomplish what had never been done before-the automation of human destruction. More than 2,000 such multi-machine sets were dispatched throughout Germany, and thousands more throughout German-dominated Europe. Card sorting operations were established in every major concentration camp. People were moved from place to place, systematically worked to death, and their remains cataloged with icy automation.

IBM Germany, known in those days as Deutsche Hollerith Maschinen Gesellschaft, or Dehomag, did not simply sell the Reich machines and then walk away. IBM's subsidiary, with the knowledge of its New York headquarters, enthusiastically custom-designed the complex devices and specialized applications as an official corporate undertaking. Dehomag's top management was comprised of openly rabid Nazis who were arrested after the war for their Party affiliation. IBM NY always understood-from the outset in 1933-that it was courting and doing business with the upper echelon of the Nazi Party. The company leveraged its Nazi Party connections to continuously enhance its business relationship with Hitler's Reich, in Germany and throughout Nazi-dominated Europe.

Dehomag and other IBM subsidiaries custom-designed the applications. Its technicians sent mock-ups of punch cards back and forth to Reich offices until the data columns were acceptable, much as any software designer would today. Punch cards could only be designed, printed, and purchased from one source: IBM. The machines were not sold, they were leased, and regularly maintained and upgraded by only one source: IBM. IBM subsidiaries trained the Nazi officers and their surrogates throughout Europe, set up branch offices and local dealerships throughout Nazi Europe staffed by a revolving door of IBM employees, and scoured paper mills to produce as many as 1.5 billion punch cards a year in Germany alone. Moreover, the fragile machines were serviced on site about once per month, even when that site was in or near a concentration camp. IBM Germany's headquarters in Berlin maintained duplicates of many code books, much as any IBM service bureau today would maintain data backups for computers.

I was haunted by a question whose answer has long eluded historians. The Germans always had the lists of Jewish names. Suddenly, a squadron of grim-faced SS would burst into a city square and post a notice demanding those listed assemble the next day at the train station for deportation to the East. But how did the Nazis get the lists? For decades, no one has known. Few have asked.

The answer: IBM Germany's census operations and similar advanced people counting and registration technologies. IBM was founded in 1898 by German inventor Herman Hollerith as a census tabulating company. Census was its business. But when IBM Germany formed its philosophical and technologic alliance with Nazi Germany, census and registration took on a new mission. IBM Germany invented the racial census-listing not just religious affiliation, but bloodline going back generations. This was the Nazi data lust. Not just to count the Jews — but to identify them.

People and asset registration was only one of the many uses Nazi Germany found for high-speed data sorters. Food allocation was organized around databases, allowing Germany to starve the Jews. Slave labor was identified, tracked, and managed largely through punch cards. Punch cards even made the trains run on time and cataloged their human cargo. German Railway, the Reichsbahn, Dehomag's biggest customer, dealt directly with senior management in Berlin. Dehomag maintained punch card installations at train depots across Germany, and eventually across all Europe.

How much did IBM know? Some of it IBM knew on a daily basis throughout the 12-year Reich. The worst of it IBM preferred not to know — "don't ask, don't tell" was the order of the day. Yet IBM NY officials, and frequently Watson's personal representatives, Harrison Chauncey and Werner Lier, were almost constantly in Berlin or Geneva, monitoring activities, ensuring that the parent company in New York was not cut out of any of the profits or business opportunities Nazism presented. When U.S. law made such direct contact illegal, IBM's Swiss office became the nexus, providing the New York office continuous information and credible deniability.

Certainly, the dynamics and context of IBM's alliance with Nazi Germany changed throughout the twelve-year Reich....Make no mistake. The Holocaust would still have occurred without IBM. To think otherwise is more than wrong. The Holocaust would have proceeded — and often did proceed — with simple bullets, death marches, and massacres based on pen and paper persecution. But there is reason to examine the fantastical numbers Hitler achieved in murdering so many millions so swiftly, and identify the crucial role of automation and technology. Accountability is needed."

From
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Holocaust/IBM.html
Advancedcompmore
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 10:37 PM
what's interesting about this is that the industry will spend millions and millions on these kind of worthless devices and technologies. they are broken or flop then the industry cries how poor they are and it's all the fault of those nasty 12 year old pirates
DMemberdemonchild
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 10:38 PM
It doesn't matter what they do, this thing
A) Won't sell, we all see how well DMA rich CD's sell
B) it will be circumvented

But the consumer will still have to pay for the development of this asainine thing.
IntermediateBufo
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 10:47 PM

Biometric controls for content? hmmm. this sort of sounds like something from the movie "Demolition Man".

Compmore has it right; these guys should focus on profiting from the new distribution technologies rather than spending "millions and millions on these kind of worthless devices and technologies".
WorldIndierockgal
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 10:51 PM
Funny how the one's who's bodies were burned and their families destroyed have when they themselves have gained power have become just as despicable as their tormentors from long ago. Maybe the likes of Sumner Redstone, Andrew Lack, Howard Berman, Michael Eisner, Jeff Zucker, Edgar Bronfman, And Neil Shapiro should dig into their own past and their own history and see you're no better than your fathers enemies.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 11:24 PM
amen!
DMemberbattousai99
Date: June 4, 2004 @ 11:56 PM
What's next? A CD player that requires an anal probe every time you listen to music?
Intermediateautodidact
Date: June 5, 2004 @ 12:01 AM
At Los Alamos, they were using punch cards to make calculations for the development of the atomic bomb. (That is, if the depiction in the Feynman biography film Infinity is correct -- directed by and starred Matthew Broderick.) I wonder if those machines were also IBM. Bet they were. Buggers made a good profit from both sides.

Hmmm, now that I think of it, Hitler had an atom bomb program as well, until we accidentally bombed the crap out of it. I wonder if their scientists were using IBM punch card calculating machines too.
DMemberaxxis
Date: June 5, 2004 @ 12:24 AM
Are you all familiar with the great American pastime of backpacking?

Well then, before I give the RIAA my fingerprints, they can go take a fucking hike.
DMemberpacmandude32
Date: June 5, 2004 @ 12:40 AM
So wait...You have to buy the thing for the finger print system to be effective?
No one will buy it.
And if anyone gets suckered into buying it,they'll just throw it away once they realize they can't make a CD for their seven year-old child.
IntermediateTheWitchingHour
Date: June 5, 2004 @ 1:02 AM
Before I submit to fingerprinting for discs
I'll riot and attack music stores.

DMemberJC123
Date: June 5, 2004 @ 1:40 AM
Well, you can't beat back stupidity without it coming to smack you in the face...
DMemberSiskabush2004
Date: June 5, 2004 @ 1:45 AM
The RIAA keeps forgetting they have competition now.

Ill just get Winamp instead of this.
DMemberSynthetikk242
Date: June 5, 2004 @ 2:50 AM
Oh my god... Is this article for real? I don't know who gave the better comment:

DeadMan2003:
"These will sell like hotcakes.
Sarcasm mode off."

or...

pepe512000:
"I don't even have a comment for this, I'm too busy laughing..."

This "breakthrough in anti-piracy technology" is not only laughable, but a complete waste of time. If Apple decided to include this "technology" into their iPod (and I doubt they will), here is a simple way around it: don't buy one.

Wow! I'm such a genius. This breakthrough technology hasn't even hit the market yet and I've already circumvented
the damn thing.

So much for "hopeful" thinking, eh RIAA?

Too funny... too funny.
DMembermad-sailor
Date: June 5, 2004 @ 5:08 AM
Ok, anyone ever thought that all of these security measures are a little backwards? So they put biometrics on publicly avalible electronics. Eventually it gets cheaper and people find a way to break the encryption. With all of these encryptions being broken, there has to be a point when our national intel is hurt.
DMemberdjjayo1
Date: June 5, 2004 @ 7:11 AM
Finger print recognition is a good technology........ For a gun locker and such, but for a music player that is... how should I put this, dumb yes dumb is the word...

And as mentioned before it is not accessible for those with disabilities, those who probably need it more due to their inability to engage in other recreational past times...
DMembernyer82
Date: June 5, 2004 @ 9:32 AM
Fingerprint technology is NOT good for guns and its not good for music players.


It maybe good for opening doors and shit
DMemberdreddsnik2
Date: June 5, 2004 @ 9:57 AM
I went to a concert a coupla weeks ago ( Godsmack ). I was of course frisked. The surprise tho ....

They didn't care about my pocket knife.
They didn't examine my tobacco pouch ( pipe smoker ). They wanted my CELL PHONE. They needed to be sure it was not a video or camera phone. nothing else mattered. They made a point to thoroughly examine everyone's cell phone for any type of recording capabilities.
Drugs and violence were ok though.
What asses
IntermediateNiceGuy2003
Date: June 5, 2004 @ 12:17 PM
Of course drugs and violence are ok. How else are we to finance all those rap stars cocaine habits?

I don't see how a camera phone would hurt them. The things only record for 15 seconds. I guess Cary Sue thinks that 15 seconds is worth $150,000.
AdvancedSfolivier
Date: June 5, 2004 @ 4:01 PM
I'm speechless. Is there any limit to the stupidity and boldness of the fascist solutions they would like to see implemented to control art ? How come they're not getting slapped for just mentioning things like this ???
Advancedgoldenpi
Date: June 5, 2004 @ 5:45 PM
I think this is a publicity stunt. Biometrics in media players are completly pointless. The firmwares still hackable, the existing analog hole remains a hole, the check-in check-out process is still vulnerable. Anyway, everyone knows biometrics is only properly effective if you dont give your potential hacker access to the hardware. It doesn't matter how hard it is to fake a fingerprint, they can just use a replay attack.

No, this is just a biometrics companys attempt to draw a little publicity.
Otherindependentm...
Date: June 6, 2004 @ 6:52 AM
They can have an imprint of my middle finger...

...or, if need be, the imprint of my fist in their face.

Shmoo, of Electric Gypsy
Support Local and Independent Music!
Don't be an idiot, stop buying DRM products!
DMemberIn-Flames
Date: June 6, 2004 @ 5:02 PM
i'll add this to list of things i won't buy...
DMemberdjjayo1
Date: June 7, 2004 @ 8:08 AM
nyer82, No you misunderstood me I ment gun locker as in the container you put your gun in.... not the gun itself... I have seen the new pistol lockers that use a key or a fingerprint to open...
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