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Congress wants to put you in prison!
Posted by IntermediateRaid in on April 6, 2004 at 5:31 PM




Congress Targets Digital Pirates
By Cade Metz
April 6, 2004

Total posts: 1

"The goal is to dedicate more resources toward educating the public on the problems associated with file sharing and copyright infringement, to give more resources to the fed-eral government to enforce copyright law, and also to codify what exactly constitutes criminal copyright infringement," says Bart Lazar, an intellectual-property lawyer with the international law firm Seyfarth Shaw.

For more, Please view:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1562408,00.asp


User Comments

DMemberJefrystube
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 6:16 PM
The dinosaurs see the comet, but know not what it is.
DMembernitedreamerxp
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 6:23 PM
Bunch of losers they want to criminalize the internet but don't want to make peace with us ok then I see the compulsory licence isn't going to be a reality just them on an educational bent.
DMembernitedreamerxp
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 6:24 PM
And lawsuit happy blind as a bat with no sensory perception.
DMembercrawdd
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 6:29 PM
Nothing in there about downloading, so let people from non-greed driven countries share the music and people from america download from them.
DMembernitedreamerxp
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 6:30 PM
Told ya they would have laws made for their own gain by bought and paid for politicians, can see them dancing in the halls of congress going yiiiippppeeee the rights of Americans will be no more.
DMemberPyroHazard
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 6:47 PM
More idiocy in Congress. This is how the nazi part rose into power. Pass laws that have the main intention of eliminating rights.
DMembernyer82
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 6:49 PM
Great idea, crowd the already overcrowded jails for more victimless acts that could be taken care of in better ways.
IntermediateBufo
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 6:52 PM

Now here is a good example of our government focusing efforts on something not nearly as critical as the war on terrorism. Somebody should publically point out that the more resources the FBI spends on filesharing abatement, the less resources there are available to prevent future 9/11 type attacks.

Where is Richard Clarke when you need him!
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 6:56 PM
They already have PLENTY of laws to jail criminal copyright infringers...this is just piling on at this point...it's throwing bovine excrement on the wall to see which piles will stick long ebnough to smell up the place.
DMembernitedreamerxp
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 7:05 PM
Speaking of bovine code I think they ate too much mad cow to really think let alone figure out how to throw.
ElectronicSpwee
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 7:11 PM
careless legislation
DMemberElGringoLoco131
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 7:18 PM
this calls for War !!
RockgdZiemann
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 7:42 PM
"Now here is a good example of our government focusing efforts on something not nearly as critical as the war on terrorism."

Yeah, but 12-year-olds are easier to catch than real criminals.
AdvancedLachatte
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 8:43 PM
What bothers me is that our legislators have little or no research in front of them to back up such lame legislation - just the word of RIAA lawyers. They just keep harping about sales decreasing over the past few years and p2p as the culprit. What about that Harvard/North Carolina study, boys?
DMemberzippythechip...
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 9:56 PM
Lacahatte, come on, really.... Why let facts get in the way of a major campaign contribution?
Advancedraoulduke1
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 10:52 PM
I saw a copyright complaint drafted by a lawyer from Seyfarth Shaw that was so poorly drafted it evoked only embarassment.
Advancedraoulduke1
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 10:56 PM
"Yeah, but 12-year-olds are easier to catch than real criminals."

Not necessarily George, I knew several 12 year old criminals who never got caught doing anything despite commiting felonies on a regular basis.
DMemberJC123
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 11:09 PM
If they're losing sales, doesn't that mean the money has to go somewhere other than their (The RIAA head honcho's) third mansion?
DMembersmoreop
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 11:11 PM
so I'm paying taxes for you to piss in the wind? wonderful.
DMembernitedreamerxp
Date: April 6, 2004 @ 11:32 PM
Why don't they just get it over with and say everybody is a criminal and just put the whole country in jail, I mean it every man woman and child whoever uses the internet uses a version of P2P in just about every internet setting I have watched everytime I surf to a web page it uses some sort of P2P to get from place to place so it would seem everyone is guilty of using P2P and not necessarily for file sharing.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 12:18 AM
lol nitedreamerxp
They have a raging case of Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE)
DMemberDalavar
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 12:50 AM
Oh Canada Oh Canada...hmm...the way things are going I may just have to learn Canada's anthem and move there....I pay these guys with my tax dollars to represent me and this is what I get?
IntermediateW-B
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 1:14 AM
I've said it before, I'll say it again: In enacting this, we have stooped down to the level of rogue nations such as China, Cuba et al., which have no regard whatsoever for human rights, and have thus (perhaps PERMANENTLY) forfeited ANY right to criticize their repressive policies, since we've pretty much become just like them.

Remember, China bans P2P for purely political reasons, because they realize that cyber-dissidents could communicate and spread their ideas through such networks. Cuba outlaws private citizens from even owning computers, and limits their access to the Internet through highly restrictive "cybercafes" controlled by the government. We are sadly headed in this dangerous direction.

But then again . . . the last time an entire group of Americans were so entirely disenfranchised across the board was when many parts of the U.S. (particularly the South) enacted "Jim Crow" racial segregation laws against African-Americans in the late 19th century.

And it's only because of the apathy of the general public (plus the one-sided propaganda from the major media, as the LAST thing they want is for the sleeping sheeple to be so aroused) that this looming human-rights crisis has descended upon this country.
IntermediateW-B
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 1:21 AM
P.S. Those who push this latest manifestation of fascism in America KNOW FULL WELL that convicted felons in many states ARE BARRED from ever voting -- which is why they have so made it a point of making it a felony to "infringe" on abstract, material "things." Their whole intent is to disenfranchise some 60 million Americans from ever taking part in the political process SIMPLY because of their use of P2P networks and so forth, all the more to thin the number of eligible / registered voters and thus further entrench these techno-bigots / ignoramuses / stooges currently in office; this, on top of the whole consignment / relegation of such individuals to inferior, demeaning, humiliating second-class status. It is for THAT reason that I have referred to this as the most sweeping disenfranchisement of an entire section of the population since Jim Crow.
DMemberCapt-n-Jack
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 3:16 AM
Uhhh....does this mean I can't take my cell phone into a movie theater?? What if my online buddies are my friends?? What if I just met them, does that count?? If not, how long should I know them before I can share legally?? Oh BTW, Mr. Lazar, who did you loan the WSJ to today??
DMemberpeatrap
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 7:29 AM
goverments next move, shooting file sharers, remember, kent state,
DMemberJC123
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 7:36 AM
About China and it's ban on internet foreigners...

http://news.earthweb.com/bus-news/article.php/208681

Now the last part is scary to me... If China joins the WTO, then we're as good as losing ALL of our liberties. China's army along with the WTO which is nothing more than a bunch of money grubbing lawyers who don't want free trade at all is horrible implications for all...
Advancedawehr
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 7:39 AM
I attempted to post a reply to the article but they asked for my freaking real name and MAILING ADRESS!

FUCK THEM!
Advancedawehr
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 7:42 AM
I freaking hate pc magazine anyway.. they try to make usb2 look faster than firewire when the speed of usb2 is halved with every extra cord you plug in. HAHA!


In all reality, how can these freaking people be so damn closed minded when our neighbor to the north legalizes this.

We never NEVER let canada better us.
DMemberFirebrand
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 8:23 AM
It's sad. I feel that the only way that we could ever change the government is by changing the business structure of the companies that run it. All we can do is continune to try change the way businesses view file sharing. They need to realize that it can be an asset when used properly.
DMembersandstorm77
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 8:48 AM
Do these people in the government realize what they are doing. All the "Pirates" are young people, people who are going to run this very country in years to come. Ill i can say is "Payback is a bitch" When these assholes get old and raisiny and need help, they will be getting the finger.
IntermediatetheHERMlT
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 11:28 AM
Correct me if i'm wrong, but if you are educated by the FBI, you can't vote anymore can you?
IntermediatetheHERMlT
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 12:04 PM
Where did they,
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1562408,00.asp

get this information that any bill is past any judiciary?

Neither S227, S2237, S2242, HR 2517, or HR 2752 have cleared judiciary review, or hearings according to :

http://thomas.loc.gov/

IntermediatetheHERMlT
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 12:14 PM
typo correction:

S227, is meant to be S2227.
IntermediatetheHERMlT
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 12:44 PM
I have sent an e-mail to:

Cade_Metz@ziffdavis.com

to find out what source he is using.
IntermediateW-B
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 12:54 PM
Per 'sandstorm77': Unfortunately, those pushing this DO know what they're doing. Their whole point is to disenfranchise a huge section of the population, as I've said countless times before. Evidently, T.P.T.B. have concluded that such individuals aren't human beings anymore, but something akin to, say, anaerobic bacteria or a poisonous weed.
DMemberomnipotent-one
Date: April 7, 2004 @ 5:17 PM
awehr, I hate to be the one to break this to you but canada has long been a better place to live than the U.S. as long as you don't mind the weather.
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