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They're BAAAAACK -New RIAA file-swapping suits filed
Posted by AdminCodeWarrior in on March 23, 2004 at 3:43 PM



"RIAA Keeps Pressure on P2P Users
By Roy Mark


The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) hit alleged music file swappers with another round of legal actions Tuesday, marking the music industry's third consecutive month of stepped-up litigation against peer-to-peer (P2P) network users. Since January, the RIAA has filed almost 1,600 such actions.

Included in this month's round of 532 'John Doe' subpoenas seeking the names of suspected music pirates are 82 actions against individuals the RIAA claims used college and university networks to illegally distribute copyrighted music.

The RIAA identified university networks being used for illegal file sharing at schools in Arizona, California, Colorado, Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Washington, D.C., and Wisconsin. The schools are not part of the legal actions other than being requested to supply the names of the file-swappers.

The other 443 lawsuits were filed against file sharers using commercial Internet service providers (ISPs) in California, Colorado, Missouri, Texas and Virginia.

More than a year ago, the RIAA and a number of colleges and universities formed a joint committee to address music piracy on college campuses.

While the RIAA said Tuesday "real progress" has been made regarding music piracy at schools, lawsuits remain a key component of the music industry's strategy to curb P2P music file sharing.

"There is an exciting array of legal music services where fans can get high-quality online music," RIAA President Cary Sherman said in a statement. "Lawsuits are an important part of the larger strategy to educate file sharers about the law, protect the rights of copyright owners and encourage music fans to turn to these legitimate services."

Since music piracy remains "rampant on college campuses, it's important for everyone to understand that no one is immune from the consequences of illegally 'sharing' music files on P2P networks,'" Sherman said.

The RIAA said the first round of lawsuits filed in January is "proceeding along." All four courts in that round have granted the group's preliminary request to issue subpoenas to ISPs to learn the identity of illegal file sharers.

Once an individual is identified by the RIAA, the record companies plan to offer settlements. If the file sharer rejects the settlement offer, the RIAA will proceed with copyright infringement litigation. "

Read more at
http://www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/3330071


Comment- First, thanks to carla60626 for the pointer to this news item.
Now...I think this just shows how the RIAA is unable to learn from past mistakes, and are thus, doomed to continue making them over and over.
~CW



User Comments

AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 3:51 PM
I noticed in the article, by John Borland, found at news.com.com,
a very SMALL portion of which was used in a fair use context, that in the referenced article at news.com.com, Mr. Sherman, big lipped mouthpiece for the RIAA says :

" It's important for everyone to understand that no one is immune from the consequences of illegally 'sharing' music files on (peer to peer) networks," RIAA President Cary Sherman said in a statement. "Lawsuits are an important part of the larger strategy to educate file sharers about the law, protect the rights of copyright owners, and encourage music fans to turn to these legitimate services."

< CodeWarrior is seen shaking his head and muttering something about Cary needing forgiveness because he knows not what he does.... >
Alternativeblubat
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 3:53 PM
Grrrr! Always the youngin's or the people with no money...bah!
Advancedundeath
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 3:57 PM
Legitimate services? I take back what I said about the people using BitTorrent to get their stuff. It's statements like this I should be pissed off about. With this attitude, it's simple to go after just about anyone for doing anything...
DMembernapstersghost
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 3:58 PM
Everytime the RIAA sues a bunch of people I take a stack of RIAA backed label CDs to Newbury Comics to sell untill I am rid of every last one of them. The ones they don't take will go to the Salvation Army. Thank you RIAA I have so much spending cash because of your greed and will never buy another one of your CDs.
IntermediateBufo
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:00 PM

blubat, I suspect that, given the way that the DMCA is written, those who are sued that DO have a lot of money will be just as eager to settle, if not more so, than the PSS's (poor starving students).
After all, the wealthy have the most to lose, at a potential loss of $150,000 per song shared.

According to another article I just read on these latest suits, around 400 folks have settled in total. What is going on with all the others? Hmm. Even if all 400 who have settled are part of the original 600+, what is going on with the others? Are they too needy to afford a $3000 settlement? Or, are the 'holdouts' in fact middle class folks that are being asked to settle for a lot more money (like maybe over $10,000)?
AdvancedLachatte
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:01 PM
Tell me if I'm paranoid. I don't use p2p sites. I ordered stuff from here on Sunday -online store - now peerguardian is off the charts - 95 rejections in an hour and a half.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:03 PM
I changed the news source and news article, and my earlier reference was to the story at:
http://news.com.com/2100-1027_3-5177933.html?tag=nefd_top
IntermediateBufo
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:04 PM

oops, I stand corrected. The original number of people sued was 261, not 600+.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:05 PM
Lachatte...I think we are making a BIG dent in things, and they don't like it!
AdvancedLachatte
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:08 PM
OK.
AdvancedLachatte
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:09 PM
Vivendi-Universal just attempted.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:09 PM
from the article posted...we read this:
"From September to mid-December, the RIAA issued more than 3,000 DMCA subpoenas to obtain names for copyright infringement suits. The DMCA subpoenas were filed prior to any charges of infringement and were not subject to a review by a judge, and required no notice to, or opportunity to be heard by, the alleged infringer.

The status of those lawsuits has not been determined."

Why don't they just name all citizens of the US as "John and Jane Does" because, with that big a net, they are sure to get about three or four infringers....
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:10 PM
those damn foreign multinationalist globalist bastards!
Otherindependentm...
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:12 PM
yawn,

I am so scared

Why don't the wolves target one of us??? I know they already know who we are! Yet, they still think it worth it to attack the poor sheep instead of the shephards.

Did "Grey Tuesday" kick em in the nads THAT hard?

Pick on old women and childeren all you want!

The HEARD WILL RISE AGAINST YOU !!!
RockgdZiemann
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:12 PM
From Wired...

"We have told all of our students here on campus that downloading music of this type is illegal and they are subject to prosecution," said Ben Tracy, a spokesman for Marquette University in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Note to the Brainiacs at Marquette: DOWNLOADING IS NOT ILLEGAL!!!!!

People are being sued for uploading!!! NOT DOWNLOADING!!
Otherindependentm...
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:12 PM
(Yes, "heard" was a deliberate mis-spelling of herd!)

AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:14 PM
geez Louise Lachatte...I just put PeerG on, and I was hit by RIAA, BigChamgagne, and all kinds of evil little midgets, in just seconds...
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:15 PM
Hey, everyone that has PG installed, lemme know if you are getting hit like LaChatte and me...
Intermediatepurfus
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:16 PM
"Since music piracy remains "rampant on college campuses, it's important for everyone to understand that no one is immune from the consequences of illegally 'sharing' music files on P2P networks,'" Sherman said. "

By george I think he spat something truthful.

No one is immune to the affects of these law suits. We have seen reports of the negative affects on the economy, there are unmeasurable social affects, and the oppertunity cost of our legal system dealing with something that will add no value to our society. Yes, none of us citizens are immune, in fact it will hurt us all in the end.

And as far as targeting collage campuses. Thats just an ignorant stereo-typical statement. I would expect nothing less from him tho.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:16 PM
Ben Tracy? His brother's a Dick, right?
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:18 PM
It does bother me, like Lachatte, I had NO P2P running...nothing going on besides this site...and was getting HAMMERED by RIaa host, Big Champagne, etc...and I don't even download music...
ElectronicSpwee
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:19 PM
I hope a huge boycott ensues
Otherindependentm...
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:22 PM
Lachette, In the past 2 weeks or so, my firewall and peerguardian both have been going NUTS with RIAA and related "scans"

They are PISSED at us, no doubt whatsoever. They want to find anything they can on you if you frequent anti-riaa sites. You ARE paranoid, but RIGHTFULLY so.

Just take REASONABLE percautions to protect your personal privacy that they are invading, but don't worry about it overmuch.

...And if you are lucky enough to get a subpeona to appear in court for "copyright crimes," REJOICE and then seize the wolf by the throat in front of a jury!

Shmoo
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:23 PM
You know something, I really get tired of BigChampagne knocking on my virtual door...note to BigChampagne...there's no song uploading or downloading going on here you idiots!

This is ridiculous...makes me even gladder that the RIAA can't keep their stupid, ugly, poorly designed website up and running...
ha haha ha ahahahahahahahaha and phoeey on the RIAA~!
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:25 PM
PS..continuing to send shouts out to Bluetack and Seraphiel at Methlabs.org...you guys are a lifesaver with all this crap going on!
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:26 PM
pardon me, while I slip on my cloak of invisibility....
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:28 PM
lol...let em find me now...
Otherindependentm...
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:29 PM
Seriously, before the past week or 2 I almost never got any response from my firewalls. Maybe once a week I would see a message saying "port such and so" was scaned, threat minor...

But now, (hell, it is even doing it NOW as I type this) my firewalls and pg are jumping up and down saying "somebody's lookin, sombody's lookin!)

I guess I have been ID'd as a major threat to the RIAA because I post such damaging things in critique of them.

:) (Smile)

I am honored.



AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:30 PM
no doubt Shmoo...no doubt brother!
DMemberrocknrollman
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:38 PM
You know, they are trying to do this because they want to get rid of their problems with the loss of money and low CD sales by suing random people for downloading music.

They think they are solving their problems. NO THEY ARE NOT! Suing almost 2000 people doesn't make tings better for them. It makes them worse. Whenever they sue more and more people, more and more people give up on CDs and start downloading. They were given a chance to sort things out with their low CD sales. They screwed that up big time.

Never mind all this. To me, it's seems impossible for anything to get through Cary Sherman's useless thick skull of his.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:40 PM
now that I have the Romulan cloak of invisibilty covering this war bird...
All's Quiet on the Western Front...

not a ping, not a peep...just lotsa silence,
cool and deep :) (Smile)
RockgdZiemann
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:44 PM
Total is up to 2,000 people now?

400 Settled

1 John Doe case waiting to be heard

1599 cases waiting to see what happens to John Doe number 1

63,998,000 file sharers unaffected.
Advancedmtekk
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:47 PM
" It's important for everyone to understand that no one is immune from the consequences of illegally 'sharing' music files on (peer to peer) networks," RIAA President Cary Sherman said in a statement. "Lawsuits are an important part of the larger strategy to educate file sharers about the law, protect the rights of copyright owners, and encourage music fans to turn to these legitimate services."

It's time to start educating p2p users about the evils of the RIAA and the media industry. It's time to let the RIAA get it, btw. is there site up yet? :? (Confused) :D (Big Grin)
:) (Smile)
nlm mln @ RIAA
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 4:49 PM
George, know what? I'm tired of all this wussy lawsuit crap..I think Cary Sue should have to PERSONALLY engage in a no-holds barred ultimate fighting bout (one hour duration...two men enter, one man leaves rules)...with the appointed champion of anyone they claim is an infringer....

I bet we would ONLY see 12 year old girls sued if that was the case....
Advancedraoulduke1
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 5:02 PM
"People are being sued for uploading!!! NOT DOWNLOADING!!"

Not true George. They cannot prove that anyone has uploaded. At least not yet. The only thing they get people on is downloading, copyrighted soundrecordings owned or controled by the big 5, or is it 4 now?
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 5:04 PM
The RIAA has unleashed another round of legal actions against file sharers around the country. A total of 532 people were listed in the newest group of lawsuits, including 89 on college campuses using their school networks. The rest of the suits were against people using commercial ISPs in California, Colorado, Missouri, Texas, and Virginia. As in previous cases, the RIAA is using the "John Doe" method of suing defendants whose names are unknown.

AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 5:12 PM
"Since music piracy remains "rampant on college campuses, it's important for everyone to understand that no one is immune from the consequences of illegally 'sharing' music files on P2P networks,'" Sherman said."

cary SHERMAN...READ USC TITLE 18, CHAPTER 81, SECTION 1652...YOU'RE A LAWYER , SLICK...YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT DEFINITON MEANS...OK???????
AdvancedPhantomGhost
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 5:30 PM
SCREW THE RIAA!

How many more consumers will be targeted before this madness ends? We must band together now, and swap as much indie music as possible. PeerGuardian is at 100% aggression on my computer. The RIAA will pay for their evil, deceitful tactics. How dare they!

Let them sue me...they can have my property and my money over my dead body. Come and get me.

I dare the RIAA to attack the dedicated people in the dmusic community. We will rise up and fight them till the bitter end. We will fight. Why do they avoid us? Because we are a difficult target. The RIAA is too cowardly to come after us. I, however, challenge them. We, the consumers, will one day have our day in court, before honest justices who do not fall prey to RIAA arguments.

:-:~ Phantom
AdvancedPhantomGhost
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 5:33 PM
I checked. The RIAA site seems to be back up. It should be brought down.

:-:~ Phantom
Advancedcompmore
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 5:38 PM
I still think we should mass together and get every authroized indie song we can (I've already done it) and share it on p2p with open viewing and turn the PG off. then when they sue they'd be laughed out of court.

Lachatte to answer your question the other day, get the divx codecs and you will be able to see that file
IntermediateBufo
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 6:05 PM

raoulduke1,

I think there may be some comfusion between you and gdZ on uploading / downloading.

When gdZ says uploading, he means sharing songs. He is correct in that the lawsuits are only targeting those who share RIAA affiliated mp3 songs.

If all you do is download (i.e. being a 'leach') then there is no way the RIAA can track you that I am aware of. In theory, they could put out a 'honeypot' and let you download from them, and then say "gotcha"! But this may be a difficult case for them to win, for although the honeypot may be legal (they can authorize themselves to share their own music), then one could argue that anyone downloading from a honeypot downloaded from a site which was authorized to give out the copyrighted music files.
IntermediateDreddsnik
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 6:09 PM
Is that romulan technology available for those of us that are not Tal' Sh'iar ? ??

please
DMembervoltz15
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 6:15 PM
"I checked. The RIAA site seems to be back up. It should be brought down."

Well if they were smart enough, they'd go after the very network they operate from and they'll NEVER bring their site back.

"More than a year ago, the RIAA and a number of colleges and universities formed a joint committee to address music piracy on college campuses."

So they're joining the ranks of the tirade filth eh?

* quote from Arnold * You son of a b*tch!
DMemberJefrystube
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 6:35 PM
Are all of you who are getting your firewalls hammered on broadband? I'm on a modem and use Sygate Personal Firewall in stealth mode. When I'm port-scanned or pinged, my system just doesn't reply.
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 6:43 PM
:) (Smile) closest thing on earth is a good proxy in another country...slows you down...but it helps throw them off your scent...

Jefry,..me too..even identi port is stealthed...and behind a router...
68.163.90.10 riaa
146.82.174.10 riaa

is everyone getting hammered BEFORE they come here or just after you get here
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 6:51 PM
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 6:54 PM
OS, Web Server and Hosting History for www.riaa.com
OS Server Last changed IP address Netblock Owner
Windows Server 2003 Microsoft-IIS/6.0 2-Mar-2004 68.163.90.10 TST US
unknown Microsoft-IIS/6.0 2-Mar-2004 68.163.90.10 TST US
unknown TST-SECURE-OS 29-Feb-2004 68.163.90.10 TST US
unknown Microsoft-IIS/6.0 24-Feb-2004 68.163.90.10 TST US
unknown unknown 23-Feb-2004 68.163.90.10 TST US
unknown TST-SECURE-OS 12-Dec-2003 146.82.174.10 Tomorrow's Solutions Today, Inc.
unknown Microsoft-IIS/6.0 10-Dec-2003 146.82.174.10 Global Crossing
unknown TST-SECURE-OS 6-Sep-2003 68.163.90.10 Verizon Internet Services
unknown TST-SECURE-OS 5-Sep-2003 68.163.90.10 Verizon Internet Services
unknown unknown 4-Sep-2003 146.82.174.10 Global Crossing
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 6:57 PM
Tomorrow's Solutions Today (TST) Inc.
4956 Wyaconda Road
Rockville, MD 20852

I believe this is their current host....
Otherindependentm...
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 7:11 PM
A website should only be "brought down" due to lack of interest. NOT because a "hacker" chose your side this time over another.

If we are gonna fight a REAL fight over copyrights, pick up a rubber bat and follow me to Washington DC. You can always carry a pistol in your back pocket if you think nessessary, but I do NOT advocate real violence unless you yourself are threatened with the same.

Anyone wanna march to Washington D.C.?
Otherindependentm...
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 7:12 PM
We will symbolically club em all to death.
Even if in effigy.
Bluegrassleflaw
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 7:21 PM
ATTENTION:

If someone will forward me proof of stealth interference with THIS SITE or its members -

I will take the fight where they live.

I, unfortunately for them, am not The Lamb.

I need names.
Alternativernowmusic
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 7:24 PM
Keep singin' to the world--
BROTHERS AND SISTERS
PRIVACY RAPED
THEIR FREEDOMS DESTROYED
MARKED AS CRIMINALS
we will be heard
----the annihilated


Intermediatesurfside6
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 7:56 PM
Interesting, no pings here. I use PG ver 14. Any of you guys scan for trojans. That may be part of your problem.
Advancedawehr
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 8:00 PM
I suppose Evian should go after these illegal water downloaders. For shame, taking all that free abundant water from showerheads. you should pay 12 cents an ounce!
JazzJazzmary2U
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 8:03 PM
"those damn foreign multinationalist globalist bastards!" .. Stretch Oooo, Code, I love it when you talk tough!! Let them keep this garbage up, I say.. adds fuel to the boycott.. anyone who is sharing large amounts of RIAA crack-music should at least stand up collectively and fight.. including label-lackey artists.. and you are right.. we ARE making a difference.. I think the anger level of the citizens of the US is high.. don't you?
Advancedawehr
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 8:23 PM
?????????
Advancedawehr
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 8:26 PM
Ok, explain this to me code, do they still have to file these individually, or only in PA courts?, or are they being allowed to continue with this 500 people at a time thing.
DMemberDeliriou5
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 8:38 PM
I so hope my IP is on the list. If it is, I am going to counter sue for hacking.
DMemberOld-spice
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 8:57 PM
Next generation, and the following generation will have an inherited negativity to the RIAA and their own offsprings.
It is a shame to see these large companies vent their aggression on progress.
Advancedawehr
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 9:15 PM
believe it or not, there is actually a business major at this school who believes in what the RIAA is doing. I have since had things funneled to her through her friends which are impossible to defend against. I wander how insane she has gone.

Anyway, what about my question regarding individual vs collective? anything brought to light on that?
DMemberdeath123
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 9:36 PM
"Hey, everyone that has PG installed, lemme know if you are getting hit like LaChatte and me..."

I've been hit by BigChampene a couple times and thats about it. Disney seems to like me alot though... and i'm not even a fan of disney stuff
DMembercrazzypip666
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 9:41 PM
there has been a new ruling on the RIAA continuing with its law suits.

they must now begin to fill all law suits individually at a cost of $150 per suit.
Bluegrassleflaw
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 9:47 PM
I'm not a p2p expert by any stretch... somebody note me and explain what is happening technically, a blow by blow, so I can assess effective legal counter measures.

DMembermurderswitch
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 9:54 PM
Here's a list of the Universities that are being supoenaed (taken from http://www.cpwire.com/archive/2004/3/23/1540.asp):

University of Arizona; University of California, Berkeley; California State University -- Northridge; University of Colorado at Colorado Springs; Drexel University; George Mason University; George Washington University; Georgetown University; Indiana University; University of Indianapolis; Loyola Marymount University; Marquette University; University of Maryland; University of Michigan; New York University; University of Northern Colorado; University of Pennsylvania; University of Southern California; Stanford University; Vanderbilt University; and Villanova University.
DMemberJC123
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 10:02 PM
Oh and in case someone hasn't seen an RIAA letter, it looks similar to this:

Anime Freak!!!



Joined: Jan 2004
Bureau of Entertainment Executive Rights
* * March 13, 2004

* * Mr. Joe Fagget
* * LAN No.: #4B-13XC4798220
* * Computer ID: HP9810-XK-Q63
* * Case No.: RG38751

Mr. Fagget:

Recent documents received by this bureau indicate you have been involved in the unauthorized downloading and transferring of licensed music. Federal laws mandate that you immediately cease and desist all illegal activities pertaining to music theft. Further, you are required by law to pay all incurred penalties in conjunction with Amendment 34-C, officially passed on March 10, 2004.

In accordance with state jurisdictions, your failure to pay these penalties in full within 30 days of receipt of this notice will result in a warrant for your arrest. We are also required by law to inform you that a second offense will result in a minimum jail sentence of 90 days.

Penalties incurred in your particular case may be reviewed on our government Web site. All cases are deemed confidential. Penalties are assessed by each individual download, charged at a nonnegotiable rate of $1,200 per infraction. Click your specific case number (Case No.: RG38751) to view the total amount due or to dispute your case.

* * Sincerely,

* * Jay Roth
* * U.S. Agent
* * Bureau of Entertainment Executive Rights

* * Case No.: RG38751
DMemberJC123
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 10:03 PM
But I got that from somewhere else. I haven't used Shareaza in a while...

Hmmm... *whistles innocently*
IntermediateGothic-Angel
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 10:44 PM
JC, sounds like bullshit to me. I haven't heard anything about jailtime for filesharing or of the Bureau of Entertainment Executive Rights for that matter. If I'm wrong on this please let me know but it sounds to me like somebody's yanking you.
DMembervoltz15
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 10:58 PM
If it's anything to do with independent music, they have NO RIGHT to even send out such a letter unless there artist responsible steps forward.

Besides, even if they talk tough like this, they cannot go ahead with such actions without due process and they need substancial evidence that you have been involved with downloading files (which in this case is non-profit). DON'T PAY ANYTHING!
AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 11:12 PM
I agree with leflaw...
Everyone that uses PeerGuardian...have PG up and running for a bit BEFORE you enter the site, so that we have a baseline...don't visit the RIAA site or any other site that you have had problems pinging your machine.....

Then, take note of the time you log on to the site...and match that time with the time of PG.... you can copy all the sites that start pinging your machine....

or you can have PG open and do a CTRL + PRT SCR (Print Screen) and copy this into a graphic program and save as a picture.

Everyone that uses PeerGuardian...we need to see if what many of us think is happening, is in fact happening, that by visiting the site, we become the target of the RIAA, BigChampagne, etc.
DMembervoltz15
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 11:31 PM
If they are trying to view folders or plant files as false evidence, they should be prosecuted.

leflaw, if you do get anything to use against them, make damn well sure you don't go to congress, they've already decided to side with the RIAC.
DMemberstilltrying
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 11:35 PM
CODE did you see the message posted at anti Riaa central at yahoo.com something about a special on line college chat with Cary Sue fielding a Q and A session set for tomorrow 3/24/04 ?????
Alternativeronnie71
Date: March 23, 2004 @ 11:39 PM
GO TO YOUR WINDOWS AND YELL " IM MAD AS HELL AND IM NOT GOING TAKE IT ANYMORE"

Yo Cary Sue you must be tired from all that LIPservice you be doing.

Lips so big Chapstick had to come out with a spray!!!!!

I bet the kids love you at party's using your LIPS as a pinata!!!
DMembercrazzypip666
Date: March 24, 2004 @ 12:26 AM
I logged on to RIAA and was pinged thirteen times.
Intermediateautodidact
Date: March 24, 2004 @ 12:31 AM
Sorry, I'm not a geek, so maybe I don't understand what is happening here. Are you saying that because of people visiting this website, even people not using P2P (I have no P2P installed on my computer), they are somehow getting targeted by RIAA or their paid stooges, and then probing our computers? Exactly how do they know who is visiting this site?

Can someone explain this to the uninitiated? Perhaps I have misunderstood.
AdvancedPhantomGhost
Date: March 24, 2004 @ 12:50 AM
autodidact, send a dmusic note to codewarrior and he will explain it. basically, we're wondering if the RIAA or big champagne is monitoring the members of this site. leflaw is saying that if the riaa is indeed doing so, he will sue their sorry asses in court. It wouldn't surprise me if they are.

:-:~ Phantom
DMembercrazzypip666
Date: March 24, 2004 @ 12:54 AM
they may not be targeting the users of this site they may just be monitoring every IP address that logs on to their site and seeing what they can find on their computers.
AdvancedPhantomGhost
Date: March 24, 2004 @ 2:35 AM
That's what I mean. Thanks for helping to clarify.

:-:~ Phantom
Advancedawehr
Date: March 24, 2004 @ 2:49 AM
"* * LAN No.: #4B-13XC4798220

i have recently had the pleasure of going over the networking invoices for my school. while it may not be consistent from school to school, the lan numbers dont look like that.
DMemberJC123
Date: March 24, 2004 @ 3:36 AM
Never said I believed it. Someone's passing that around on another site to deter filesharing. But I got no response when I pointed to a story about this method being declared illegal with the Verizon case. So while I don't think it's true, I wanted some kinda verification.
Advancedawehr
Date: March 24, 2004 @ 4:56 AM
" * Bureau of Entertainment Executive Rights"

this bureau doesnt exist, but the fbi may spawn one given a couple more years of this corruption.
DMemberkarotechia
Date: March 24, 2004 @ 5:55 AM
RIAA website seems to be down again - suing 532 students has it's consequences...

Peer Guardian goes nuts when I am online - I have 100% RIAA-Free music stored on my PC.

DMemberAthlar
Date: March 24, 2004 @ 8:21 AM
"" * Bureau of Entertainment Executive Rights""

...BEER?

AdminCodeWarrior
Date: March 24, 2004 @ 9:01 AM
stilltrying, I missed it...

autodidact - here's what I know CAN be done...when you have a board, a public forum, it is possible for someone to ping (or to port scan) everyone else who is logged into that specific IP....not to go into a lot of info, but a hacker was sent to a board I used to be on, a board which criticized a certain public person...the hacker from day one, said he was employed by this person. After he was there for a while, he announced that he was sent there to log the IP addresses of everyone there...I thought he was full of bull...so the owner of the site provided me with his IP address, and I knew what city he was supposedly in...at the time, I was not behind a router, but did have a good firewall, and I always am stealthed...anyway, I went through my logs...and sure enough, he was NOT BSing...there he was on a certain day, trying to ping my machine...

What I think they do is this...it's easy to find the IP address of any site, and if youa re sharp, you can also find the port used to connect to the discussion board... so they start scanning for people who may be "on" that site.

I left PG going all night, and I wasn't posting or anything last night, and not one ping...

Now, with me, even if they pinged me...a complete record of my IP day after day would show sometimes I am here from different countries, sometimes Czechoslovakia, sometimes China, sometimes Spain..and thus...any IP they get on me is going to be suspect...

But...it is quite possible, that if they are somehow trying to use electronic means to surveill members, to interfere with site traffice, or otherwsie to in some way interfere with the freedom of people to enjoy this site, that MAY constitute tortious business interference, as well as other causes of action...something I am not legally qualified to judge.

So..for the time being, I would urge everyone to keep that record of PG...if you don't get hammered before you visit this site...and suddenly, the RIAA is pinging your machine, BigChampagne is pinging....you can drag your mouse across all those attempted intrusions...highlight, hit CTRL + C and open NOTEPAD and put your cursor in there, and hit CTRL + V ...this will paste that record into notepad...and save it with a name you can remember...or the date.

You can forward those to me through a DMusic note if you wish, or to Leflaw, again, at DMusic.
AdvancedDeadMan2003
Date: March 24, 2004 @ 12:48 PM
I laugh in the face of the RIAA! You are so low even the worms in the ground would not feed on your dead corpses.
Advancedcarla60626
Date: March 24, 2004 @ 1:45 PM
That last post reminded me of the lyrics of Bob Dylan's song Masters of War, which seems apropriate to quote somewhere, so why not here.

Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead
AdvancedPhantomGhost
Date: March 24, 2004 @ 5:47 PM
Thanks for explaining in detail code.
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