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I think the head of 321 is going to appeal all the way to the Supreme Court.

Why are you posting this news again? It's already been discussed. You make it sound as if it's new news.

Have a weekly update thread with headlines of the past week.

cnet shows it as being todays news

sounds like the judges aren't taking into account the fair use rulings of the past and addressing the conflicts between the two laws. the supreme court may be the only way.
Actually the software's widely avaliable anyway.

hey code did you get that file in your email?

Ok, sorry, I stand corrected -- this is a SECOND federal court ruling. The New York judge agreed with the San Francisco judge's ruling from last month. I wonder if the NY decision cited the CA opinion.

Fucking NY

hadn't check compmore..will have to check later this evening...thanks in advance!

Remind me to give a shit. Who would pay money for DVD ripping software anyway? Type "DVD ripping software" in google and see what you get. A blow for DVD copying? Hardly. Not while I have a DVD-rom. Just a blow to an innocent software company that the RIAA and MPAA don't like. Hurting the economy in my hometown nonetheless. Thanks a lot. I guess we'll now have to turn to free P2P to get everything.

If that was a blow to DVD copying, here's a boost:

http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/software2.htm

Download some software. Copy all of your DVD's. Take a picture and send it to Valenti. Lay a printout of Fair Use ontop of the pile.

One question: Is this Judge Owen of what Michael Savage would call the "Red Diaper Doper Baby" crowd?

Also, as far as these radical judges are concerned, "fair use" is for all practical purposes null and void. They DO NOT CARE about "fair use," they've pretty much been bought off by the multinational entertainment-media complex anyway (a few grand or so under the table to get a ruling in their favor). It is evident that the new trend is to see "fair use" as a mere privilege, not a right, and thus fair game for being fully and totally revoked.

Furthermore, it shows the extent to which these radical alphabet-soup lobbyists have been relying on unelected judicial tyrants to further their rigid, exclusivist agenda, knowing that there are some politicians who've been immune from their virus (but not enough, apparently). It is no different from the far-left who rely on judges, a.k.a. the "Stench from the Bench," to further their agenda (i.e. banning the Ten Commandments, pushing gay marriage to undermine the family, handcuffing the police against the REAL criminals such as drug dealers, rapists, pedophiles and serial murderers, subverting energy independence initiatives to wean us away from Middle Eastern oil in the name of "protecting the environment"), frustrated about their inability to push their agenda through the checks-and-balances nature of legislative process.

Judging from this, it appears there's more to their worship of the likes of Hitler filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl (as evident on Sunday's Oscar telecast during the tribute to those who died in 2003) than meets the eye. To wit: for the most part, those who support totalitarianism abroad will lean towards totalitarianism here at home.

TheSherminator , After 321 they'll go after Nero Recode, Copy2DVD, AnyDVD and all the other pay rippers and when they're done with them I'll bet money they'll try going after websites offering the freeware rippers.

I don't use 321's software because I prefer the freeware rippers, but abandoning 321 because we don't like their software and can get freeware anyway isn't going to help. 321 has put their money where their mouth is and are fighting the good fight for us all. I don't care if their motives are purely selfish and survival oriented because the end result is still a company telling mpaa to piss off.

Don't forget they leaned on the Norwegians to haul DVD Jon into court and drug him through the muck for four years. The Norwegian judge had enough sense to throw the case out but do you think a judge here in the States is going to have any sense? Not now especially after these last two rulings.

W-B...ya know...Michael Savage is really Michael Weiner...and even he doesn't own the copyright/trademark to the Michael Savage name...
The info on that is Weiner, Janet, INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 6 Knoll Lane, Suite E Mill Valley CALIFORNIA 94941...People believe Janet is his wife, but there is no confirmation of this.
"Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Other Data The name shown in the mark identifies a particular living individual. Dr. Michael Weiner, aka Michael Savage, consents to applicant registering his name for the respective goods and/or services. "

"After 321 they'll go after Nero Recode, Copy2DVD, AnyDVD and all the other pay rippers and when they're done with them I'll bet money they'll try going after websites offering the freeware rippers."

All they are doing is promoting the exchange of free copyrighted material. How, you all ask? By suing away all of their competition. People won't buy their product for a backup. They'll just find other ways to make backups. Soon, thanks to the MPAA, all people will realize the greatness of the GNU.

"other ways to make backups"
i.e. ---> freeware