It was posted that John Kerry said this about filesharing.

"Kerry: I think any kind of mass file sharing that goes beyond the normal college-dorm, room-to-room, person-to-person, friend-to-friend kind of sharing is a violation of the law. I believe in copyright. I think we would have complete disorder in the marketplace if you don't enforce copyright. Copyright is the way you create order out of chaos in the marketplace. Otherwise, you diminish the value of intellectual property and artistic property, and you wind up not enforcing the rules by which people are compensated for their work. I think the U.S. has been very lax in dealing with China and other countries on intellectual property regulations, and I have long argued that we ought to be enforcing those measures very, very strictly. Now, I have worked hard with the industry to try to find some ways to create an appropriate technology that allows people to share. The problem, obviously, in a digital world, is that one tap of a button on a Web site and you can transmit to millions of people a perfect copy. So I think we have to find a technological fix, and frankly, it has been economic self-interest that has prevented people at arriving at an appropriate compromise."
Taken from:

hollywoodreporter.com
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First off Mr. Kerry, it has been estimated that there are about sixty million filesharers. There are a lot fewer registered copyright owners. So, are you after votes by the public, or money from the few?

"Kerry: I think any kind of mass file sharing that goes beyond the normal college-dorm, room-to-room, person-to-person, friend-to-friend kind of sharing is a violation of the law."

Please note Mr. Kerry...most actual sharing on P2P like Kazaa, usuaally happens from one person, or at times, three people to one who is downloading. Just the way you phrase the statement shows you really don't seem to know what you're talking about.
You don't have millions of downloaders at one time leeching on to one poor uploader.

Even worse, you don't seem to know the law about copyright infringement at all.
Just the unauthorized sharing of a copyrighted file between friend to friend or person to person, is technically, the same as one to one thousand as far as it being legal or illegal. The number of people you share a file with, does not make it illegal. Under the law as the RIAA interprets it, sharing on a one to one basis is illegal.

"I believe in copyright. I think we would have complete disorder in the marketplace if you don't enforce copyright."

Look, I'm sorry Mr. Kerry, but if you keep talking like that and get elected, we will have to start a page of Kerryisms, like today there are so many websites about "Bushisms".

If every time a webpage is loaded, a technical violation of the DMCA occurs...how do you propose stopping this MASSIVE source of copyright violation...shut down the internet?

Also, how about those pesky xerox machines, scanning devices hooked to computers, and how about tracing paper. The art stores are full of booklets of tracing paper which, are in and of themselves, enabling devices for copyright infringing.

So, Mr. Kerry, prior to 1976, prior to the enactment of the Copyright Act of 1976, how did we live through that "complete disorder in the marketplace" ? Was 1952, the year of my birth, a complete soup of chaos due to our trying to muddle along without the saving grace of "Copyright"?

"Copyright is the way you create order out of chaos in the marketplace."
Look, that's nonsense first off. Order in the marketplace, is not created by
copyright law, copyright enforcement, etc. If that was the only way order was created in the marketplace, then per Mr. Kerry, we could just dump all the Uniform Commercial Code provisions, because why have them...we have "copyright" to save us and create order. Making crazy statements does not help your campaign.

"Otherwise, you diminish the value of intellectual property and artistic property, and you wind up not enforcing the rules by which people are compensated for their work. "

People are infringing on copyrights all the time, and surely, you are not for putting a copyright cop in front of every xerox machine, in front of every personal computer, and in front of every scanning device, because, as these are sources of millions of infringing acts daily, they surely would contribute to the "diminishing" of intellectual property and artistic property (are you asserting that intellectual property and artistic property are different?).

"I think the U.S. has been very lax in dealing with China and other countries on intellectual property regulations, and I have long argued that we ought to be enforcing those measures very, very strictly."

Oh...so we have been "letting" China run their own affairs? How crazy, how nutty, how laissez faire-ish, of us. How DARE China run their country without our oversight, without a Chinese version of the RIAA to exert the iron fist in the velvet glove.

So Kerry, what ya gonna do about it. Are you going to threaten them with a nuke over intellectual property enforcement? Look at the computer you type on, the television you watch John K...where is it made? Not in the USA. Since more and more of our goods are made and/or assembled in China, I think you should be VERY VERY careful about telling them how to run their economy...especially in view of the state of ours, and the fact that more and more jobs are going to India and to China.

We need clarification on this "very very strictly" notion John K. John K, did you know that, because of the size of the Chinese population, the average human is a Chinese girl. That's a LOT of people, and you think you are going to bully around a country of that size and of that growing power over "intellectual property" issues. GEEEEEEEEEEZ get a grip Kerry!

"Now, I have worked hard with the industry to try to find some ways to create an appropriate technology that allows people to share. "

What industry have you worked hard with...the RIAA? Appropriate technology that allows people to share already exists...it's called...and listen closely...
"Peer to Peer". You really should read up on it...it's been in all the papers. :)

"The problem, obviously, in a digital world, is that one tap of a button on a Web site and you can transmit to millions of people a perfect copy. So I think we have to find a technological fix, and frankly, it has been economic self-interest that has prevented people at arriving at an appropriate compromise."

This wording is an almost verbatim quote from that of our friend "Manny the stunt man"
from the "anti-piracy" ad which gets shown in theaters, released by the MPAA. So, this makes me wonder where Kerry got his statement on this issue.

I really want to know what software and system this guy is allegedly using, because anyone who knows anything about the majority of P2P programs and systems knows, it is NOT a "PUSH" technology as Kerry's statement would imply. You don't just "tap" on a "button" on a website, and push a copyrighted file out to millions of users.

People who get files over P2P get it by SEARCHING for the file, and connecting to one, or a few people, who HAVE the file. It would be a "pull" type of usage... you don't just sit there and send a copyrighted file out to millions of people who don't want it. Maybe he's gotten filesharing confused with SPAM, like all that e-mail I get from his campaign machine, that I don't want!

Look, from the tone of my editorial, it's clear I'm mad. Not to offend any Kerry supporters, but this statement alone makes me not want him as president. Kerry is an admitted Skull and Bones brother of Bush, and when Tim Russert asked him about it, he gave the same kind of response as Bush..it's so secret I can't talk about it.
There are also various assertions on the Net now, that Kerry is a distant cousin of Bush.

This kind of incestuous "choice" of candidates makes me very uneasy, almost as uneasy, as I felt reading his stand on the necessity and sacred nature of the saving grace of Copyright, without which, we would obviously have chaos, anarchy, and teens would become rebellious , listen to rock music, and have acne.

I think people need to let Kerry know we are not pleased about his stand on filesharing. Call me crazy, but 60 million, or even three million, votes, could make a difference in this election....why don't ya think about it Mr. Kerry?
------------------------Personal Editorial from ~CodeWarrior----------------------

Thank you for taking direct action against him. I had no idea that posting a quote would warrant this, but I guess that's to be expected from you, Code.

And you'll probably get a nice, simple manufactured response about some crap...

thanks for posting the quote undeath. It obviously was something I felt strongly about.

I hope this alone changes the minds of many more people. Now to see how Edwards feels about all this...

exactly something I was just thinking.

Well, so far I can only find something where he says we should embrace technology. That could be a good sign, but I don't think he's given an answer to a question like that.

"Several people wanted to hear more about intellectual property, so I thought I would focus on that today. The first priority of intellectual property law is to foster innovation and progress for our society. To achieve that goal, the law must protect the rights of inventors. And there must be a fair balance between the scope of those rights and the public interest."

That's the closest I can get so far. It looks like he's trying hard to not offend both sides with that one.

Kerry is just another middle of the road politician trying NOT to piss anyone off so he can get elected. Based on the statements above, I wouldn't trust him in office to defend P2P file sharing any more than I would trust our current president to defend P2P. Obviously, our election is headed, once again, to a pick of the lessor of two evils, instead of a REAL change.

Uh-oh, Edwards is or was working with Whorin' Snatch on something. Granted, it was something to protect privacy, but still... Mr. 'We Should Destroy Peoples' Computers"?

right...
A better response to a question about filesharing would be this...

"We must recognize that, today, and in the future, citizens rely more and more on the internet for news and information on a wide variety of topics. Filesharing technology, is a rather recent method of sharing information, and appears to be a relatively safe and easy method by which computer users can quickly and easily share information of all types.

It has and is being used by professionals in all types of professions to collaborate and to share information. Doctors, lawyers, graphic professionals, musicians, and more, are finding filesharing to be one of the most effective ways to freely communicate and work together,

We must protect citizens who use these networks from violation of privacy rights, by those who , for pecuniary reasons, want to use the shield of Copyright Laws, to violate their privacy.

This copyright right, even one of their own attorneys, Carey Ramos, arguing in front of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, has called copyright an "ephemeral right".

Let me be very clear on this. Rights of privacy and free speech are NOT ephemeral rights, and we should never sacrifice these rights on the altar of commerce.

Certainly, we have an interest in protecting the rights of those who create unique works of art, but we have an even greater interest in protecting fundamental rights of citizens.

Therefore, we should frame this debate not with regard to what is best for copyright holders only, but what is best for the technology progress of this country as a whole, and I assert that interference with filesharing networks does not support these national goals of making information easier to share.

Before the passage of the Audio Home Recording Act of 1992, the entertainment media giants made the same kinds of protestations against the VCR, that is being made about filesharing networks now. However, in the long run, through video rentals, the industry has realized far greater profits than they would have enjoyed without the legalization of the home videorecorder. To me, we need to update the AHRA to include the fair use of digital media files for personal, non-commercial usage."

Was that an actual response from someone, or what you'd want to hear?

what I personally would say if i were a candidate, and what i want to hear

Pay to the order of: John Kerry
Amount: $10,000.00

Memo: Campaign Contributions

Signature: Carey Sherman

I need to become a politician. Hey, I've got nothing going on right now, and it doesn't seem too hard. Would anyone like a 20-year-old mayor or governor? Anyone in CT that could help me?

undeath...first step on the road to the governorship...think about a screen name change...
from undeath...how about
"Mom_and_Apple_Pie"
or
"It's_for_the_children"
...just poking fun...

Heck, you could win...give it a shot

I have to find out what it takes to be in the race for governor here in CT. And when the race starts and whatnot. I'm planning on going to see my old history teacher next week. He'll most likely help me with everything. His brother is Senator Thomas Gaffey.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://www.senatedems.state.ct.us/Gaffey.html&e=7629

"and frankly, it has been economic self-interest that has prevented people at arriving at an appropriate compromise."

The one realistic statement in the whole mess. And whats this about going beyond dorm-to-dorm, friend-to-friend. Either you give someone a copy or you don't. Yes there is a difference between an asian distro outfit and a collage student sharing files over the network. But not according to the laws, and not according to the industry heads he has been working with.

So Kerry is looking to get into the riaa's pocket eh? figures.

OK, I'll be 22 when the next election year comes for most or all of CT's elections. 2006 will be a good distance to establish some kind of reputation...

So, when a mass of people believe in something, then it's wrong, compared to like 2 people? that's basically what he said in the first sentence...

A technological fix is just not the answer. Billions have been wasted on those types of solutions already. FRANKLY, you can get your industry to "fix" it the way they want it and us consumer will go right ahead and "fix" it the way we want it. Mostly because we are what make up the internet. If the internet wasn't there we would share through other means such as local networks and media storage. Hell I would drive house to house every weekend and have burning sessions (the kind where CD's are made) if I had to. Am I a die hard pirate? Now I am the product of a world filled with advertising and other enticements. Campaigns that influence my thought patterns. Mental ques that cause me to desire certain things. Add those type of inflictions to a bunk economy with a shortage on jobs and well you got yourself someone who is just trying to do what it takes to satisfy their desires. People are not held responsible for their own actions if they are done out of durress. Why then are people being held responsible for desires instilled in them by others?

Kinda like dangling a carrot in front of a muel then beating the crap out of it because it finally managed to grab the carrot.

Who the f*ck ever said 128 was prefect quality? Especially when it can go up past 1000

Thank you Code Warrior for having the energy to eloquently verbalize and put into action something I myself put off doing. I too wanted to e-mail John Kerry after I read his quote in the Hollywood Reporter.

Last October, I e-mailed all the presidential candidates, asking for their position on copyright reform and peer-to-peer file sharing. I received the following response from someone in Kerry's office:

Dear Carla,

Thank you for sending John Kerry your thoughts about the issue of civil
liberties.

Here is the link to the page on the John Kerry web site presenting his
positions on this issue:

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civilrights.html

On March 8, 2003, John Kerry also gave a speech at the Drake University
Law School Supreme Court Celebration in Des Moines, Iowa presenting his
positions on these issues:

http://www.johnkerry.com/news/speeches/spc_2003_0305.html

(I checked out the information on these pages, but copyright and file sharing were not discussed, only the Patriot Act. These links no longer work.)

I went to law school with Kerry. We both would have had Professor (now retired judge - ) Hiller Zobel.

Contact Zobel? Maybe he can talk some sense into him. (I haven't spoken to Zobel since 197.

And wouldn't "Time has come today" make a great campaign theme.

All this is possible.

John Kerry has a forum here:
http://forum.johnkerry.com/
for anyone who would like to register and start a peer-to-peer thread.

Whoops, posted too soon. There is a file sharing thread:
http://forum.johnkerry.com//index.php?showtopic=6490
Looks like some boycott-riaa members are already there.

HOLY SHIT! My post also reached that site. Maybe I should post more stuff to trigger this kind of action. How far has this reached since last night? Any other sites?

Chris, how did you happen to come across the Hollywood Reporter article?

Kerry sounds very anti-capitalist from this excerpt. The "chaos" of the marketplace and self-interest is what the market is all about. The market creates the greater good for all just by letting people follow their own "self-interest." When a sale is made, the buyer values the good they are getting more than they money they pay for the goods and the seller values the money they are getting more than they goods they are giving up. It works out for everyone.

And by the way, the market brings you the most freedom. If it weren't for corporate welfare and gov. "regulations" we wouldn't have monster corporations like the RIAA. Regulation=Restriction and consumers/sellers (consumers/artists) can't operate freely.

"So I think we have to find a technological fix, and frankly, it has been economic self-interest that has prevented people at arriving at an appropriate compromise."

What a prick, nuff said

Wasn't gonna vote for him anyway

I searched for 'john kerry intellectual property' on Google.

Good catch. I guess it pays to periodically Google.

There are only 4 little posts there. WE NEED MORE! Everybody go there now!

cantido...i registered and didn't get my validation email..sent a revalidation email request which it said it sent...still a nogo after several minutes....registered with a different name and different email addy...still a nogo...

if you can't validate you can't post...
Cantido...could you post a link there to here please?
Thanks.
~Code

Yeah, that validation email takes forever...

Code, there's a link above a few posts. I'm waiting eagerly to say something in there.

I never got my validation e-mail and I can post 0_o.

Wait a few minutes, I guess.

My goal is to keep that thread alive and without flame wars. If we can do that, there wont be any problems.

Did you see one of the posts that says we need copyright to have stuff? I can't quote exactly due to me typing, but I need to respond to that person. There are many people who allow their stuff online for free and in the public domain. I wouldn't exactly say that copyright, especially how it is now, is necessary for that...

"Whatsthedownload" would probably be happy with the posts in the Kerry forum right now. Several "pro-copyright" folks there who need to be educated.
Go Code, Cantido, et al!

The Kerry response will be something like this:
"I was in Vietnam. I'm a war hero"

Which will of course completely skirt the question you asked him. Now, if you were some rich heiress or hot intern, you would be able to get his attention...

Please don't go in there and flame anyone. It would make everyone on our side look bad. If they start something, just calmly explain your side instead of getting worked up. That's how I got banned from my cousin's band's site. They wouldn't allow me to say something, and so I was banned.

Don't let it happen there.

That last post is completely absurd. They actually think that the artists themselves filed the friggin' lawsuits. And they're speaking as if we know nothing about it... I can't wait to get in there.

I've tried that registration nonsense over and over...and cannot post without validating...and have not gotten a validation email....
so, if someone wants to copy/paste my letter,....or give a link...feel free...if I could get post..I would...
~Code

Now they say that my username doesn't even exist. I was logged in before...

They've got problems, so I hope the registration under the SAME NAME works...

undeath...the email address for forum admin is supposed to be :
forum@johnkerry.com

Have you gotten the validation email? This is craziness. And when I asked for it to be sent again, my username wasn't valid.

What do you mean by that being the email? That's what it'll say in the 'From' column?

I never got one...and used three email addresses, and even different user names...
i got no email of any kind....including getting no answer to sending an email to the forum admin,....the "forum@johnkerry.com" address)

It's weird because I was logged in. Then it said that my username didn't exist. No email yet after 3 unsuccessful tries. Same name because it never got entered into their system. Same email address because of the same reason. It upsets me that I can't even put a single post on there...

Another probelm is I got a PM saying my links were removed. They said linking was not allowed or something, I didn't bother to read the terms.

I talked as much as I can from my perspective and in my words, without relying on a link to do the talking. Its a good way to be convincing without getting in trouble. So when you post over there, get ready to know your stuff!

Another probelm is I got a PM saying my links were removed. They said linking was not allowed or something, I didn't bother to read the terms.

I talked as much as I can from my perspective and in my words, without relying on a link to do the talking. I basically gave the gist of the war between the Major Labels, the Indies, and the aritsts inbetween. But I don't know if I did a good job ^_^;

Its a good way to be convincing without getting in trouble. So when you post over there, get ready to know your stuff!

I think there was a flow of users coming in and registering, and they just got sick of it and stopped the registration process to avoid a mass uprising.

It's a longshot, but it's quite possible... maybe not...

I've been joking that John Kerry's greatest strength and reasong he'll be President...is that he's not George Bush.

ANYONE BUT BUSH 2004!

I wrote info@johnkerry.com , meetup@johnkerry.com. and the webmaster@johnkerry.com...with this message...

"John Kerry is alienating perhaps 60 million voters! Estimates of the amount of filesharers in the US are usually put around 60 million, and in just one P2P, Kazaa, usually around 3 million plus are online at any point in the day. Mr. Kerry's comments on intellectual property are very off putting, and disturbing, as they indicate an allegiance to the big media concerns, and an abandonment to the concerns and rights of digital consumers.

One meeting place for many digital consumers and P2P users, is www.boycott-riaa.com .

As a registered democratic voter, at age 51, I was so bothered by his comments, that I wrote an editorial based on his statement about filesharing , and intellectual property rights. As a writer and registered copyright owner myself, I stress that fundamental rights such as privacy and free speech, should always supercede ancillary rights such as copyright.

His comments indicate a fundamental opposition to the growth of this legal and viable new information sharing technology.

I hope in the coming months, he takes time to look at the demographics involved, and to decide whether he can just blow off 60 million votes, and marginalize mainstream Americans.

Thank you for your attention."

my initial response to my letter...

"John Kerry is The Real Deal and the one who can Win! He's won 16 of 18 primary contests and delegates in every one. The race is far from over, stand up join us today.

Dear Friend,

Thank you for writing to John Kerry. We wanted to let you know that the
campaign has received your message and will send you a more specific
reply as soon as possible.

John Kerry receives thousands of emails every day - and more now than
ever before. The thoughts that flow in from across the country help us run
the kind of grassroots campaign John Kerry believes in very deeply. We'll
respond to your particular question or issue as soon as possible and we
appreciate your patience.

If you want to talk to or read what other Kerry supporters are saying
about the campaign, visit the John Kerry web log anytime at:
http://blog.johnkerry.com/ or our Online Forum at:
http://forum.johnkerry.com/"

Grassroots, my ass. He's for free trade and got backing today from AFL-CIO. What a hypocrite! I wouldn't trust this guy if he was moving my furniture.

still no email since 1:00 pm central what gives? to ell with Kerry vote for Alice in wonderland or Dorthy and click our heels together and go to OZ.
maybe we could post then.

There are 7 posts in the Kerry forum and the thread is in the bottom. Hop to it, people!

No verification email. These people run a lousy forum...

Same here undeath... I tried to make an account, about an hour and a half ago and I still haven't got a verification email.

Just over 3 hours here...

Kerry's strategy: If you can't beat em, spam them

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4276324/

All the accounts are waiting on John Kerry personally to review their applicaton and sign off on them

He personally looks at them?! Thats a first for any polititian, ever!

He couldn't possibly have the time. You know, with all the shining of his medals.

I kid, of course, but it seems as if that's become the only issue...

Good response to Kerry Cantido. I have to assume you folks have had your thread locked off in Kerry Land. You're toast.

I love this post from that screen name "healthcare.kerry." Not only falsities in every single sentence, but an insufferable attitude:


"I interpret the 'person to person' sharing is implying if you personally share your CD with a friend - i.e. in the college dorm - you hand it to your friend. There is not the same as what you call p2p over the internet - so there is ambiguity.

Copyright laws have always been enforced - that's why they are called laws. For years teens shared their 'albums, cassettes or cd's' and may have copied them even though it was a copyright infringement - however it is so prevalent now because of the millions of internet users who do the p2p and the Artists themselves are the ones filing lawsuits to stop it - because their music is all copyrighted.

Hope this clears up your confusion. "

i was kidding about Kerry personally authorizing accounts :0)

Let's see if I have this right: The Democrats' platform is to raise taxes (take away money that I earned) to fund their endless programs (give it to those who did not earn it). Any party that thinks it can spend MY money better than I can will never get my vote.

by the way...I'm STILL waiting on my validation email from forum.johnkerry.com

Leflaw...I remember Judge Hiller Zobel..he was the judge in the English nanny case in MASS...the Louise Woodward case...btw...you might know that when Ms. Woodward returned to England, she went through law school and became a lawyer.

suitablyTwisted - guess we won't be seeing you at the polls this november

but do we really want kerry in office? For one, he will raise taxes, we all know that; two, the economy will go to hell if he gets in controol. The way I see it We are screwed no matter who is in office, but four more years of bush wouldn't be as bad as four years of Kerry :cringe:

If we can't stop Congress from authorizing the Treasury Dep't to raise our national debt ceiling this summer, it won't matter who is president -- our economy will follow exactly the same downward spiraling pattern as Argentina's did two years ago. CONGRESS MUST NOT RAISE THE DEBT CEILING AGAIN!!!

btw, as I've said several times before, I think John Edwards would be most likely to side with the average guy against corporate power - he comes from the working class, and he's been defending the put-upon his entire life, unlike these other preppy, snotty, rich-kids who are raised to be Yale/Harvard yacht-club politicos

Damnitalltohell

Guess I ain't gonna vote then

...or perhaps I will just write-in Codewarrior/Ziemann

Let's ALL just do that

lol,

wouldn't it be something if Codewarrior/Ziemann actually WON???

Shmoo, of Electric Gypsy
Support Local and Independent Music!

(BTW, I am SERIOUS, if Kerry don't change his tune fast, I am voting for the Codewarrior/Ziemann ticket!)

Hey guys...

I have been offline for hours while I slept. I had to sleep because my computer is totally broken. I tried replacing my boot screen with something else, and now it won't go past a blank screen after the boot screen. So I may lose close to 60 gigs of important data unless I can put the original file back in its specified folder. Which is impossible since I can't get into the main c: drive.

Anyway, I'll be online a whole lot less than I have (not tomorrow, since my brother will be in school and not on this computer).

undeath..what OS you running...95,98,NT,Win 2K or XP>?
lemme know...we may get this puppy back to bootin'

if you can make a startup disk for your oS (or the disks in the case of XP) you should be able to make it to a dos prompt and recover ...gimme a holler here or at codewarrior_wins (at) yahoo.com

undeath...check your dmusic notes...
sent you some things that may help you save your filez....

Code, George... do you guys accept the nomination?

Wow... didn't come back for a while, huh? I asked someone else and they said I'm screwed, but look at this page and read the part about Microsoft's six floppy disk thing and tell me if it would work.

Ididn't receive any DMusic notes, but I think IE is acting up on this computer. Installing Firefox right now...

Nope. No DMusic notes. And my internet went out again... this house is problematic, starting with my router not being totally compatible with my modem...

Gonna try that Microsoft fix now.

Not four more years of Bush...oh, God, please, NO....Kerry may not be perfect, but he's not Bush, and any Democrat is better than Bush. I'd even go for John McCain. But NOT Bush.

http://www.moveon.org/

:-:~ Phantom

Any Democrat is better than Bush??? First of all, here's a Dem who couldn't possibly be better than Bush: Al Gore. Remember the PMRC? That was Tipper's baby and she launched it with Al's political clout. What it boiled down to is that Tipper wanted to abridge our First Amendment rights and Al supported it! Now, on to our good friend John: I live in Massachusetts so I've had more than ample opportunity to hear Kerry's mouth runnning faster than his brain for a lot longer than his current campaign run. If Kerry wins I'm seriously considering moving to Canda!!! And let me ask you this: do you really trust John Boy to deal straight with us when he's making comments about taking the country back from "special interest" while at the same time, as I understand it, no other person currently holding a seat has taken more money from "special interest" than Kerry??? And I've already heard Dems on tv (Fox News, CNN, etc) crying "foul" because Bush's people pointed this out! Now what the hell kind of people cry "foul" over somebody speaking a truth that can be proven and confirmed??? And what kind of person supports a group who would cry "foul" over the truth being told? You can complain about Bush all you want, but at least with Bush we know what we're getting, I just don't trust Kerry and I'm afraid to find out what kind of screw job he's got in store for us.

Code, I figured out my problem, and I idn't lose a thing. It was the most simple fix in the world. Use Microsoft's six floppy boot disk program, get into c:windows through that recovery system, then DELETE NTOSKRNL.EXE! It automatically makes a new one when it restarts!

I am a complete moron... 6 hours later it's fixed. Transferring myself to my home computer right now...

In that message board topic, the last poster said that the courts say it is theft. Someone post that the court has said to stop calling this theft.

Somebody made a new Copyright thread. That issue aint goin anywhere

Can you post that it is not theft? I haven't been able to register or receive a validation email...

I have weighed in. Just in case my other name was already registered, I used "undeath1". I think I've made my point.

I'd like to point out that the entire regime of the RIAA suing individual downloaders has occurred under the watch of the Bush administration - over a thousand Americans have now been sued, and many have been intimidated into outrageous settlements, and the Bush camp has said NOTHING and done NOTHING. Bush's silence speaks volumes - he has given his tacit approval to people being sued even for engaging in "the normal college-dorm, room-to-room, person-to-person, friend-to-friend kind of sharing."

undeath
don't know why you didn't get the dmusic note...but your fix was one of the suggested ways to fix the problem.

I searched and searched and searched until I found out how to do it. That was the last on my list, but at least I know how to do it...

By the way, I only do themes now, and I have to say, my theme and desktop background are the best I've seen.

I made a thread in Action Ideas regarding Kerry. Since this article has sunk to the bottom, if anyone wants to continue the discussion, go to my thread.

bluerhtyhm.....
Bush has his hands full with the war on terror, the US economy, European weeniness, illegal aliens, etc., etc. File sharing don't make the top 500. And since when is it the government's job anyway. The best part about capitalism is that we the consumer can bring about change. The government manual for the Victrola is still pending its first printing.

You will notice that the editorial that was there, is no longer there.